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Who wants Minsc(and boo) to still be in later Baldur's Gate games.

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  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    I think we should save Minsc from the fate of jumping the shark.
  • SynergeticSynergetic Member Posts: 69
    This is all under the theory of BG3 being a continuation of TOB. Whose to say its not a prequel or something completely different.

    As much as we all like Minsc, I agree that we need to let him and the others rest.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    As mentioned, there could be a plot device such as Turned to Stone that would allow Minsc to be there over a century in the future. But even so, I'd say no. Start fresh with new characters. Even if the story for BG3 uses a descendent of CHARNAME and/or a plotline of some sort that has Bhaal's essence trying to reemerge from the planes. I'd want a new cast of characters.
  • a_random_mea_random_me Member Posts: 2


    Does Wizards have a no-unsupported rulesets rule (no pun intended)? Because I'm really not a fan of 4th Ed. 3rd is okay, but if it were up to me it would be all about 2nd Ed. Maybe that's just my inner fanboy nerdgasming.

    Given the timeframes involved, odds are you'd be pushed to 5th edition. And I'm sure nobody wants to run through the 2nd-3rd-4th-5th set of conversions required to update characters.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    Given Minsc's ending at the end of BG2, he'd have to be an old man... barring some weirdy thing with de-aging or something like that... I don't know if 4th edition has Potions of Longevity/Elixirs of Youth, or if 5th edition will. So, barring something like that and a cameo appearance, I honestly can't see it happening.
  • GemHoundGemHound Member Posts: 801
    edited August 2012
    I could see the adventurer possibly running into Kivan, Kagain, Viconia, Yeslick, Xan or Aerie in a future game. Highly unlikely though. I would absolutely love to run into Minsc and Boo again.
  • xLegionxxLegionx Member Posts: 197
    I voted this because I always play an evil character in bg. And at some point Minsc thinks its ok to take on my whole party when I'm fixing to do something terrible! So yeah...I don't minsc in a future game so long as he's dead in my book hahaha!!! >:)
  • EdvinEdvin Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 3,244
    100 years later, Minsc will be dead...
    But Boo never die !
    ( And Boo is lvl 40 Space hamster so he can revive Minsc )
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    I don't know; I can imagine a Plansescape: Baldur's Gate where Minsc might be unable to die. *shrugs* I want a wonderful BG3 game and if it is, I don't much care about the details that make its greatness. A fresh start would be cool, though it makes sense for some elf types to be around still. What I'd like to see:

    1) more care to making sure needed classes are around. It's very late in BG to get a good cleric IMO, for instance
    2) a truly different evil ending for people that want to be evil; sort of a situational difference maybe manifesting at the end game
    3) A BG2 type map that has a lot of potential for growth (later DLC or whatnot) - my guess is that this is going to happen
    4) Strongholds for all! I loved this about BG2 and would like it to remain. If it could be almost NwN2 like, so much the better
    5) Origins of the character instead of air dropping, I think. A great idea that should make its way into more RPG's. Tired of being the mysterious orphan, shipwrecked in a new land or released from a prison
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    @reedmilfam

    Eh, I think you can get a good Cleric pretty easily in BG if you just follow the general suggestions of the game. It shouldn't take you that long to get to the Nashkel Carnival and recruit Branwen.
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    @Tanthalas - Must be doing something wrong, then. Party with Branwen is a constant exercise in not getting her killed. I had far better luck with Jaheira, actually.
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    Well, there's only 2 pure class Clerics in the game and I wouldn't say that Viconia has a much better survival rate than Branwen.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356
    I'm sure they can create a different mentally deficient comic relief for BG3.
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    Tanthalas said:

    Well, there's only 2 pure class Clerics in the game and I wouldn't say that Viconia has a much better survival rate than Branwen.

    Ehh, debatable. Branwen gets +1 to her HP (9 per level) and 8 base AC. Viconia gets 8 HP per level, 6 base AC, 50% magic resistance. Sounds like far better survival rate for me. Yes Branwen gets a little more HP and that's nice, but I'd say the key is not getting hit in the first place. That 2 better AC and 50% magic resistance is very appreciated.

    Honestly though, from a power-gaming standpoint none of the clerics are very good. Yeslick with Gauntlets of Dexterity is pretty good I suppose. I find myself using a lot of Clerics in BG1 and a lot of Thieves in BG2.
  • AethernautAethernaut Member Posts: 60
    Maybe some reappearance could be explained with magic, a thinning of the planes to allow characters to glimpse into the past, to see the legacy they've inherited? Like, maybe you're walking through the ruins of Saradush and something magical gives you a vision of Minsc and Edwin arguing, with the former Bhaalspawn hero/villain you played with their back to you.
  • Raistlin82Raistlin82 Member Posts: 256
    mch202 said:

    Later bg gAmes will take place 100 years after tob

    Is this official? Will there be more BG games? And will they be set 100 years later?
    It's the first time I hear about both news.

  • theJoshFrosttheJoshFrost Member Posts: 171
    No. Minsc's part is done, let 'em go and make way for new characters.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    Minsc needs to be a part of BG3. Yes Star Wars was a disaster... BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN MINSC WILL BE!

    I would much prefer a prequel than an afterwards sort of BG3 anyways. You may have to send yourself back to the time of troubles to make sure your actually born for instance... Gods love to play about with time, especially if Bane has stole a portfolio off someone.

    Not sure how old Minsc is, but perhaps he had hair back then!

    You could even do the story about how they were united...

    Hell, you could even have Gorion as a joinable NPC...
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    @Raistlin82 I believe as part of the contract any developer signs with Wizards of the Coast, new computer games must be made with current rules, and the current Realms jumped forward 100 years with 4e.
  • SilverstarSilverstar Member Posts: 2,207
    I'm sure Overhaul is perfectly capable of coming up with a new insane comic relief character. I too like Minsc but recycling him doesn't make much sense and frankly would be quite lazy.
  • TermyTermy Member Posts: 3
    I love Minsc and Boo. In fact, I love everything about the Baldur's Gate series. But I don't want to see him again in another game. If there is a Baldur's Gate 3 it shouldn't have anything directly to do with the Bhaalspawn story in my opinion. There is so much lore to explore in the forgotten realms, old myths, gods and demons.. I'd love a game somehow centered around the blood wars instead.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    How would you carry your characeter over...

    Wait you would need to start a new one.

    But the game would be huge for you to get all the way to lvl 40

    BG4?!?!?!
  • AzL0nAzL0n Member Posts: 126
    Seeing as I'm hoping that Baldur's Gate 3 will be a fresh level 1 start, (for the newcomers it doesn't make any sense to start at any other level) I don't think that Minsc should be a recruitable NPC since he would be far too powerful. Also as everyone pointed out, Minsc would be a centenarian by then. Minsc is such an awesome character and contributed a lot to making Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 unforgettable games so I definitely think that he at least need to be mentionned in some way though. I liked Moomintroll's idea of having him buried and for boo to be mourning at his side. It could be done in a subtle way that would strongly hint at it being Minsc without implicitly saying so as a sort of private wink to the original fanbase.

    As for which characters I think should return, well, I think that all the characters that were in BG2 got proper goodbyes with their 'where are they now' endings so I don't see any of those coming back. That leaves the BG1 NPC's which were not in the second game: Alora, Kivan, Yeslick, Branwen, Safana, Skie, Xan, Eldoth, Kagain and Shar-Teel. Obviously the human NPC would normally all be dead but as we know in D&D universe everything is possible. I'd be interested to seeing apperances of some of those if only a cameo. Maybe one of them could even be recruitable.
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