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  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Okay, let's steer clear of active antagonism here.
  • ChildofBhaal599ChildofBhaal599 Member Posts: 1,781
    yes, sorry. guess I did take to what he said and it just got me going. also i realize it's not like mainstream community is quite toxic as this thread points it out, so I'll just edit out my comment. although when I went on about how toxic COD is... that is legitimate.
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    My worst experiences if it comes to internet communities....

    YouTube. To explain this, let me present you mindset of typical Youtuber: "subscribe me! subscribe me! sucscribe me! I'm going to keep showing it to your face until you sucsribe me! Lol I don't have enough dignity to actually work for it! So, subscribe me! I have partnership, I need money!".

    While DeviantART is not bad community in itself, you can find "fractions" of people there that are bound to give you a mental cancer. Ok, there is nothing wrong with fanbases and fanarts, but some people take these things too far. Naruto "fans" are more focused on their retarded shipping war than on the main story, DBZ "fans" doesn't know the source material, Bronies are showing their stuff where it doesn't belong and will "love and tolerate" sh*t out of you if you do not approve what they are doing. There are more. Aside from rabid side of fanbases, some people are very opiniated and are expressing this via stamps. Fair enough, but some of these opinions are regarding a matters that are far too complicated for them and are defended so zealously that I'm really worried.

    Of course, Blizzard forums, Diablo in particular. As much as I love Diablo, I am not part of it's official community (or any other). It's understandable when people are complaining about problems. But I do not compute when they are keep complaining and b*tching when said problems are resolved. The community generally can do no more than complaining. Let's take PvP, for example. In Diablo 2, the game was not balanced for PvE, much less PvP. Yet people enjoyed it, made their community with rules regarding duels etc. In Diablo 3 you have all resoures you need to create some 1v1 PvP leagues and clans. Yet, what does the community do? Complain. Of course. No one of these halfwits thought about doing what I mentioned earlier. Also, the fact that they are attaching their ego to the game way too much is bad. Like, really bad.

    Also, threads regarding way to newest patch in this forum made me facepalm multiple times.


  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853
    @Buttercheese Word. Sadly, the "straight up misandry" is probably what bugs me the most, because half-way intelligent people are lured into it. The rest of the stuff you mentioned is mostly for the truly extremist crazies.

    "their weird borderline religious believes of cultural and "racial" segregation."
    Borderline religious? I reckon it is their religion, they just don't call it that. Haha! I'm of the belief that everyone subscribes to religion in some form, even if they don't refer to it as such. From my personal observation, I've seen that anyone who loses their sense of purpose goes through that whole existential crisis deal-io... And then either wastes away or else bounces back and finds a reason to exist again.

    @meagloth Snapchat is definitely dumb. I use it sparingly, but I agree that it's dumb.

    For what it's worth: "Once you view the picture it's immediately deleted, never to be seen again."
    I am almost positive that it stays on a database somewhere. I'm sort of wondering if Snapchat will end up being a social experiment wherein they release our photos back to us in 10 years or so, and we can all lament on how stupid we were.
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    @Quartz:
    Hah, yeah. But yes, it's mostly some really loud people who are getting completely off rail with their weird worldviews. But like you said, people are being lured into it. I personally can only speak for the Team Fortress 2 fandom on this, but I saw some very liberal and open minded people downright being brainwashed into SJWs. Not to mention all the mental damage they cause (I won't go into detail here, but I saw some shit).

    I am trying *really* hard to keep all this stuff as far away as I can by now, but it's really hard. People only have to mention certain keywords completely out of context and I already get stressed out.
    The worst is the blatant hypocrisy though, they are preaching equality and free speech but say that one is not allowed to state their opinion if they are - quote on quote - "privileged" (aka caucasian, male and ok with it, not-trans-gender, heterosexual, etc.) And that's not even all of it -.-

    I could go on and on and talk about my personal negative experiences with Tumblr but I am honestly tired of it. It's all just really disgusting and stupid.

    I am now trying just to stick to cartoon and art blogs, what I originally came for ...
  • dementeddemented Member Posts: 388
    Probably men going their own way. It's a men's rights forum and will make you ashamed for being male. It's a pit of pathetic misogynists who are just a bad day away from being rapists.

    Youtube is also quite bad. It doesn't matter what you're watching, whether it be a Lady Gaga video or lecture on quantum electrodynamics, three things are always guaranteed .

    1. Trolls downvoting it for no reason.
    2. Someone being called Hitler.
    3. Attacks on a person's sexual orientation.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    I think the worst boards I was ever on were on AOL in the early days. Especially the Politics and Religion boards. The flaming of people who didn't believe in exactly what the poster believed in. I cannot believe the amount of "You're not a REAL Christian!" shash that got thrown around. It really made me sick to my stomach, especially when the "Not a REAL Christian" was loving, kind and accepting, and the ones passing the judgement were foul-mouthed, hateful bigots who, say, said stuff like, "Mentally retarded people who can't tell good from evil have no souls" and stuff like that. I'm not joking- that was actually said. And there were people who, when they said, "I'll pray for you!" actually meant, "EFF you and the horse you rode in on, you Godless Hell-bound Heathen!" Did more to turn me off religion than anything else except for reading the Bible.

    I am also on DA, but I stay out of all cliques and groups, because I have a very low tolerance for the DRAMS. I post my stuff. If you like it, fine. If not, oh well. I have been banned from commenting on certain artists' pictures because of making comments like, "Oh, my back aches in sympathy!" when the female depicted is so over-endowed in the chest area that it made me wonder if the picture was parody.

    Really, this board is indeed one of the best in its non-toxicness, but we Mods do work hard to keep it that way, and I give all my fellow Mods props in making this place so wonderful to be one!
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    Hmm, I have been on DA for ages now, but I wouldn't call it a toxic environment ... (maybe I was just lucky so far). The only real problem I see there, is the huuuuuge rate of art theft (I have been a victim multiple times, someone even tried to sell some of my drawings as t-shirt prints).
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    Just to add to Dee's post, mind your language... We're still a PG 13 forum.
  • meaglothmeagloth Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 2014

    Hmm, I have been on DA for ages now, but I wouldn't call it a toxic environment ... (maybe I was just lucky so far). The only real problem I see there, is the huuuuuge rate of art theft (I have been a victim multiple times, someone even tried to sell some of my drawings as t-shirt prints).

    Copyright infringement is the finest form of flattery. Remember that.

    @Quartz‌ i heard that rumor to(about the pics being stored) and I'm sure it's at least halfway true. I can't imagine they would just throw them away, what with the money telecommunications companies make selling data to the government.
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    @meagloth‌:
    I really hope that was sarcasm/ irony :I
    Because there is truly nothing flattering to being robbed.
  • meaglothmeagloth Member Posts: 3,806

    @meagloth‌:
    I really hope that was sarcasm/ irony :I
    Because there is truly nothing flattering to being robbed.

    @Buttercheese‌
    I said what I meant and meant what I said. You simply misunderstand.
    The surest way to know that someone likes something is that they steal it of their own volition. I never said you had to approve of what they where doing, just that it's proof that they like your work.
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    Think we are approaching a slippery slope here my dear friends. Let's not get into a flame war involving piracy/stealing/copyright. It's against the board rules as well. ;)

    On topic, I do find the SnapChat comments very curious, I haven't used it but I have a lot of friends who rather enjoy using it for unsavory things. I don't use my phone very much so I've never had the chance. Would be a very curious social experiment. I also had an issue with Facebooks terms of service when it comes to photos, do you still relinquish all copyright to those whenever you upload a photo?
  • meaglothmeagloth Member Posts: 3,806
    CaloNord said:


    On topic, I do find the SnapChat comments very curious, I haven't used it but I have a lot of friends who rather enjoy using it for unsavory things. I don't use my phone very much so I've never had the chance. Would be a very curious social experiment. I also had an issue with Facebooks terms of service when it comes to photos, do you still relinquish all copyright to those whenever you upload a photo?

    Ah, yes. There's another reason to store the snapchat photos. Advertising. It's probably I dusty standard to take the rights to the photo. You have to admit, it's pretty clever. (I can say that as someone who really doesn't use social media except for jokes and espionage:P)
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    Hahaha! Yea I really don't trust this social networking fad. Think, several billion people have put at least their date of birth, email address, home address and phone numbers and given them to Facebook with the hope that it doesn't do anything with them we wouldn't like. A lot of people have a hell of a lot MORE then that on their Facebook pages, even set to 'private' just how private is it I wonder?
  • meaglothmeagloth Member Posts: 3,806
    You know what else I hate? I was a member of this community called 'real life' or some crap once. It's was this whole 3d immersion system, but instead of getting to choose an avatar you where just assigned one at random, and they where really hard to change. Ugly to, usually. A lot of the forum badges where awarded based on how good of an avatar you got. Like, wtf, mods?! (You could never even tell who the moderators where either. There where all these different groups that believed it WS this one, or that one, and some people didn't think there where any at all!)And then you didn't even get to decide what part of the forum you got to go to. You had to collect in-game cash to be able to move anywhere, which is hard to come by. So You where just stuck with your little group. And they're usually terrible. Sure, they're always a few cool people, but you have to sift through *so* many jackasses to find a good friend. And then unfriending was just as hard as friending. If one of these guys went south, your stuck with them! And eventually, people just get banned for no reason! After like 70-90 years, just when you start it figure it out, Blam! Banhammer. And it's *really*!hard to leave if you don't want to. Your whole membership is tied to your avatar. If it get broken, bam! Banhammer!


    :P
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    Too meta, @meagloth ;)
  • MordiscusMordiscus Member Posts: 20
    4chan /pol/

    Today, that board is even more offensive than good old /b/, overall 4chan isn't a bad community, but since /pol/ has been created a dark aura of intolerance begin to spread into another boards (/sci/ /tv/ /int/ /v/) making some specific topics to always rage & cancer inducing to discuss without interference. Even when sometimes /pol/ shines about certain subjects, because you just need to learn the hard way about things, its too fucking intoxicated to venturing forth frecuently.

    Best board of course is /vr/, you can speak about BG plenty and it's safe place for nostalgia...

  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    The first thing I learned about the internet as a young teenager: Stay the hell away from 4chan :D
    But yeah, due to that, I don't know a whole lot about it, but isn't the entire point of /pol/ to be offensive and stuff?
  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    edited July 2014
    When something is free and/or popular like many F2P MMORPGs or MOBAs, then you have more idiots. It's unavoidable.

    The more popular something gets, it's bound to be filled by idiots.

    About MOBAs, try Smite. It's awesome, it's actually teaching you a thing of two about various mythologies and gods, it's more action/moba than DOTA clones and the chat is only visible to your party, not the enemies.

    And if you meet insulting idiots after the match, you can report them.

    I was bored to death with LoL but Smite really grabbed me. I don't care if anyone agrees or not, Smite is far better than the other MOBAs I think.

    About forums and communities, on personal experience:

    Baldur's Gate forum: While a mature forum, there are some random threads that make me facedesk sometimes.
    Bioware Social Forum: The NwN1/2/older games forums are full of great and helpful people. The vitriol is on the Dragon Age/Mass Effect/The Old Republic ones.
    9GAG: The vast majority on the comment section is full of idiots that try to be funny, smart and original, while failing miserably.
    NwN2 Server Forums: The forums of the various servers for NwN2 are almost always full of mature and great people.
    Facebook: If you annoy me too much, I'm deleting you with no warning. Otherwise, I use it to speak with friends, not idiot strangers.
    Youtube: Oh my god the idiocy, bias and immaturity. I generally avoid commenting or ignore or flame trolls.
    Giant in the Playground: Apparently the biggest and most popular community for PnP DnD but it's full of min/maxers, powergamers and anything that is not an optimized Wizard/Cleric/Druid sucks (3.5E speaking).
    Exaggerating but it's funny how they focus so much on mechanics and optimization than RPing builds and ideas.

    The BGEE, NwN2 servers, Bioware (NwN2 section) forums are the only ones I am visiting daily to check on news.
    Those and Facebook because I'm communicating with friends and see what they post/message me.
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  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    4Chan's a hell hole. :P

    I've been thinking about Smite. It looks pretty good and I do so love mythology. DOTA2 has been trying really hard to clean up the community with the reporting system but they just aren't hard enough. Half of them they don't even bother to enforce, just far to many complaints to look at them all I'd say! :P
  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    edited July 2014
    @CaloNord Go Smite and never look back. It's not as big as DOTA 2 or LoL but I prefer the gameplay, the characters and the way the chat works.

    And it's still in beta.

    For example, one of my favorite characters I am mastering is Ao Kuang. Apparently Ao Kuang was a dragon king in chinese mythology and there's a Lore tab that gives you the whole story.

    And there's Egyptian/Ancient Greek/Hindu/Norse/Mayan/Roman and Chinese mythologies in there. They're not 100% accurate and their appearance and abilities are very loosely based on them and are stylized but it's still fun.

    For example Hades is the soul-sucking teleporting lich-like tank, Loki disappears like an assassin, Ra is a mage that heals and shoots sun beams, Arachne looks like Lolth, Thor flies into the air and does ton of damage, Kali is also a heavy damage dealer, Rama (avatar of Vishnu) is an archer, Anubis is a mage that stuns or blasts you etc.

    Really original and fun game for a MOBA.
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    Sweet! I'll check it out, along with Eve Online which some friends are bugging me to play with them! :D

    Many years ago I had an AWESOME time with the original Dawn of War community. It was an amazing game with some really great people involved with it. Winter Assault and Dark Crusade were pretty epic as well. Lost me a little with Soulstorm and totally with DoW2 which I didn't like at all.
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  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    Very interesting. I did not know how the business side of Facebook works. Was that Minsc I saw in there? :P
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    edited July 2014
    LadyRhian said:

    I think the worst boards I was ever on were on AOL in the early days. Especially the Politics and Religion boards.

    Yep.

    uuuhhhfffhhhfffgghh let's see.

    Blizzard: Blah blah blah, toxicity from fans. I get bored sometimes and bait at the Lore forums just to see how far people will go. I mean, contributing to the cuddle/hug threads is also something I do that bothers (the right) people, but I tend by and far to just stick to being incredibly irritating yet contributory while still not getting temp-banned.

    will not name: I once played around on a forum that was pretty much nothing but like...ten of the same people circle-jerking and posting things they'd found on 4chan and Something Awful repeatedly. Or being "ironically" racist. When I joined, it was different and there was a pretty active and cool member-base, but then there was a crash and everybody had to sign back up. Last I checked it's the same pit I left, with the same ten people snipping at each other. Nearly eight years later.

    4chan: Been there, done that. Had fun at /wg/ in 2006 - 2007, and at /x/. Did desensitise me to horrible things, and introduce me to a few friends.

    Giant in the Playground: Only one game I participated in stayed together, a Libris Mortis game, and the GM was an absolute sweetheart, and I wish her the best! The rest that I played in were pretty cool, but fell apart, and those were ones that fit my (somewhat) narrow preferences (and didn't have terrible home-brew, and had GMs that said "no" to radical changes to the rules). If I speak my mind any further, I will be called on it, so I will remain silent.
    @Archaos‌: Get out of there, now. Go to Myth-Weavers, or RolePlay OnLine. Those places are great!

    IMDB: It's AoL Hometown with movies and television. The sheer amount of vitriol on the Stargate Universe discussion boards was mind-blowing. I get it, the show was bad, no need to - oh, no. RUN!

    Baldur’s Gate: I would rather save a priest of Orcus than any of you, you are the worst that the multiverse has to offer. You were born of the foulest thoughts of the first aboleths, and the words that you speak are ten times as maddening to mortal minds as all of that evil race's collected volumes. <3
    guys i am being toxic see
  • dementeddemented Member Posts: 388
    I was into MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) a few years ago. It's one of the most popular personality theories out there and tends to be little less pseudo-sciencey than most of those systems. Anyway, the forums that discuss it can be quite toxic.

    People will claim that all psychological disorders can be put down to a imbalance in one of the MBTI functions. Or they'll create a chart which shows the superiority of one type over another.

    It can be an especially negative environment for younger people trying to use the system to understand who they are. They often come away with a false sense of entitlement or end up in denial over their identity.
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    Am I the only one who didn't mind SG:U? I did feel they'd killed most of the cheesy happy go lucky fun SG-1 and Atlantis had achieved but I saw what they wanted to do with it and I reckon it could have been an okay series given a little more time. That being said I would have MUCH preferred another season of SG1 or Atlantis though. . .
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    CaloNord said:

    Am I the only one who didn't mind SG:U? I did feel they'd killed most of the cheesy happy go lucky fun SG-1 and Atlantis had achieved but I saw what they wanted to do with it and I reckon it could have been an okay series given a little more time. That being said I would have MUCH preferred another season of SG1 or Atlantis though. . .

    Rush was the bee's knees! It was alright in the end, I was just spoiled by Atlantis.
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