That's a good question. What alignment would you say a ninja is? Because Chupa Chups' best spokesperson ever would be Zool. I'd say Neutral Good, Lawful Neutral or Lawful/Neutral Evil.
(nervously) ... I had no problems with them (wink), but then I met @Anduin and started to feel uneasy (wink) around them. Especially, when their bandages are ...(wink)...hanging...nasty little buggers.
(Southpaw seems to have developed a bad case of a nervous eye twitch)
Gnomes, sorry Anduin but whoever said that they ain't Tolkien hit the nail on the head, plus I can never picture my legendary Bhallspawn as a shorty (apart from dwarfs cuz they're awesome )
Gnomes, sorry Anduin but whoever said that they ain't Tolkien hit the nail on the head
And how is that Tolkien wrote an entire language for Gnomes and never used them is what I wonder the most, since he DID had the idea of gnomes, but they never made it to his stories IIRC.
Gnomes, sorry Anduin but whoever said that they ain't Tolkien hit the nail on the head
And how is that Tolkien wrote an entire language for Gnomes and never used them is what I wonder the most, since he DID had the idea of gnomes, but they never made it to his stories IIRC.
I'm not sure Tolkien deserves as much praise as he gets. People have made good fantasy before, while and after he was around. Sure, the IP he created is pretty good (subject to opinion of course), but so is Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Planescape, Warhammer, Eternity, World of Darkness and a bunch of others that doesn't come to mind at the moment.
D&D's noems are a good version, as good as the little cretins get anyway, while Warcraft's is horribly terrible. I can't really think of any others as most tend to be fairly similar to the D&D ones. Are there other settings out there that does them very differently? Anduin, you might know?
The gnomes in The Dark Eye are rather different from those in D&D, I guess. In this PnP tabletop they are a Kobold subrace, rather tiny, and in many regards more similar to Rumpelstiltskin than Jan Jansen.
Gnomes, sorry Anduin but whoever said that they ain't Tolkien hit the nail on the head
And how is that Tolkien wrote an entire language for Gnomes and never used them is what I wonder the most, since he DID had the idea of gnomes, but they never made it to his stories IIRC.
He did? I know in the Book of Lost Tales all the names are switched around, so the Noldor were actually referred to as Gnomes (and the Vanyar were called the Teleri and the Teleri were called the Solosimpi, very confusing).
Gnomes, sorry Anduin but whoever said that they ain't Tolkien hit the nail on the head
And how is that Tolkien wrote an entire language for Gnomes and never used them is what I wonder the most, since he DID had the idea of gnomes, but they never made it to his stories IIRC.
He did? I know in the Book of Lost Tales all the names are switched around, so the Noldor were actually referred to as Gnomes (and the Vanyar were called the Teleri and the Teleri were called the Solosimpi, very confusing).
Seems like I got confused by the names yet again :'D
@lolien Damn i forgot Syd Barret wrote a Gnome song! I may have to revise my opinions lol.
@CrevsDaak I didn't realise Tolkien had written Gnome stuff!? I've only read the Ring quadrology, Children of Hurin and about 20 pages of the Silmarillion lol.
That's pretty cool though, seems like he covered all the bases of modern fantasy.
Basically, Tolkien, in his wisdom, decided to make Gnomes the top hob nobs. Basically the kings of all the pansy elves.
Unfortunately, Gnomes were already famous in English gardens as the little guys who fish in the garden pond drinking beer all day. And Tolkien did not want to confuse anyone, so denigrated the Gnomes and called them High Elves. How us Gnomes shudder at such blasphemy to this very day.
I'm okay with having shorty NPCs in the party, but I never feel right playing as one. I suppose since most of the shorties I've seen in fiction are silly in some fashion, I've internalized a certain lack of dignity as a racial trait for halflings, gnomes, and sometimes dwarves. Ugh, I'm such a bigot.
I wouldn't call it a phobia, but original the gnome's didn't have female models. So I never played them: it might make sense for a dwarven gal to have a beard, but certainly not a gnome lass! (Now, her nose, on the other hand...)
In general, though, I don't play the short races because romance mods aren't made for them. So it's usually human, elf, and half-elf... the occasional half-orc if a romance mod allows it.
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*Best battlecry even.
(Southpaw seems to have developed a bad case of a nervous eye twitch)
D&D's noems are a good version, as good as the little cretins get anyway, while Warcraft's is horribly terrible. I can't really think of any others as most tend to be fairly similar to the D&D ones. Are there other settings out there that does them very differently? Anduin, you might know?
*jackjack wistfully walks into the sunset*
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What can elves show off?
@CrevsDaak I didn't realise Tolkien had written Gnome stuff!? I've only read the Ring quadrology, Children of Hurin and about 20 pages of the Silmarillion lol.
That's pretty cool though, seems like he covered all the bases of modern fantasy.
Unfortunately, Gnomes were already famous in English gardens as the little guys who fish in the garden pond drinking beer all day. And Tolkien did not want to confuse anyone, so denigrated the Gnomes and called them High Elves. How us Gnomes shudder at such blasphemy to this very day.
Read it yourself here...
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gnomes
Definitely a conspiracy against Gnomes... The worms are coming out the woodwork now...
Never played a gnome, don't plan on it either. Short, ugly, big noses, I just don't see it happening.
Mostly, the term "high elves" is quite terrifyingly literal.
*flees*
Doesn't stop me romancing those fine elven women in the sequel though.
In general, though, I don't play the short races because romance mods aren't made for them.