Does the series want you to be a Cleric?
Klorox
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... Or cleric multiclass?
Just wondering if anybody has ever gotten this feeling.
There is one stat tome for each ability, but three for Wisdom.
If you go with the canon party (from what we can deduce from the beginning of BGII), your party has a fighter, a ranger, a thief/mage, a mage, and a fighter/druid. The only basic class not covered is a cleric.
Dunno. Random thoughts on a sleepless Saturday night... LOL.
Just wondering if anybody has ever gotten this feeling.
There is one stat tome for each ability, but three for Wisdom.
If you go with the canon party (from what we can deduce from the beginning of BGII), your party has a fighter, a ranger, a thief/mage, a mage, and a fighter/druid. The only basic class not covered is a cleric.
Dunno. Random thoughts on a sleepless Saturday night... LOL.
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Aso, game has many healer/cleric types of npcs, in bg2 all original romance options are clerics and variations. Plus, game is generous with healing:there are stacks of potions of extra healing everywhere, there are restoration scrolls any class can use in case of level drain, heck there is even a rod of ressurection anyone can use. The game has done everything for not forcing you to play a healer/cleric type.
I think wisdom tomes are many because they give the least amount of bonus for most classes. Str, dex and con are hugely useful. Intelligence and charisma are nice to have. Wisdom makes no difference for a warrior or thief subtype whatsoever. (Apart from a lore bonus) wizards enjoy high wisdom for wish, but by the time bg1 was created there was no wish spell.
Think about it, if there were 2 tomes of strength any pc can have 20 strength. (21 for half-orcs!) that is overpowered. If there were three tomes of strength, well...that would have been absurdly powerful. Wisdom gives less bonuses to many pcs.
It can be the symbolic progression of the pc, also. From a sheltered childhood the pc isreleased into a world of danger, deceit and adventure. It is only natural he becomes wiser, 'street-smart' as he adventures through the sword coast. He also learns much about himself that would have been better left unlearned. (A dialogue option with Cadderly, my favourite cameo in bg1)
You're a Gorion's ward and Gorion was a wizard. Irenicus (again a wizard) in your dreams teaches you several times to use arcane magic.
Right now I am doing a new run from bg1 only using the new npc and there is no healer so I am playing a shadowdancer until bg2 where I will dual to a cleric and take hexxat.
But yeah, its odd because clerics even without Tomes are beasts in BG1, maybe these are to let you suck less in ToB?
Lackey: So this guy who beat ya... Big fella was he? Bulging muscles, gleaming breastplate and a vast enchanted sword, right?!
'Vok: Not... Bulging... as such.
Lackey: Ah, so we're talking a Holy Warrior then? His god is his right arm?
'Vok: I didn't actually see any gods, no...
Lackey: I'm with you now... a dark and mystic wizard then? Dabbling in dire crafts what man didn't ought to wot of?!
'Vok: Nope.
Lackey: Well, what was he then?!!!
'Vok: Well... he had a lovely singing voice...
I mean, the game gives you plenty of options to choose from for your personal character, but only a limited number of NPCs for single player games. Depending on which NPCs you want to add to your party and which weapons you like, being the single cleric can be an option.
Neera, Keldorn, Mazzy, Valygar, Imoen, me
No divine caster! No Jaheira, no Anomen, no Aerie! And for Neera's enemies, if you want to visit her early - more mercenaries than wizards! - it seems plausible to make myself a heavy armored cleric. I've done it like Anomen, dual-classed at fighter level 7 in BGEE and continued the saga with a fighter/cleric that's a lot more powerful than Anomen. The only downside, which didn't affect me in defeating Irenicus though, has been Imoen. To me she appeared as mostly useless except for her thieving skills, especially as I gave her the two thieving rings, and Neera advanced further with her spells. It feels like a wasted slot in the party. I thought about replacing her with another fighter - Minsc or Anomen even - although that may sound weird because of the story, as I don't feel good about leaving her alone with a lost soul.
Eventually I noticed that my transferred dual-class capable fighters could become also a thief - and gosh, I love it. Kensai level 9 -> thief. Cannot use range weapons and gauntlets/bracers, an oversight by me (should have used the plain fighter instead of the Kensai) and may become a problem because I may want to make someone else learn using a bow ... but while many topics on how to play thieves seem way too advanced to me, learning by doing is the way to go here. It is really fun! First time I enjoy playing a thief in a non-multiplayer game, because he's useful actually.
Lackey: So this guy who beat ya... Big fella was he? Bulging muscles, gleaming breastplate and a vast enchanted sword, right?!
'Vok: Not... Bulging... as such.
Lackey: Ah, so we're talking a Holy Warrior then? His god is his right arm?
'Vok: I didn't actually see any gods, no...
Lackey: I'm with you now... a dark and mystic wizard then? Dabbling in dire crafts what man didn't ought to wot of?!
'Vok: Nope.
Lackey: Well, what was he then?!!!
'Vok: Well... he had a lovely singing voice...[/quote]
I am so jealous of you talent right I laughed so well thank you.
Becoming a cleric also makes sense when you consider that you were raised in a secluded library fortress surrounded by holy books.
Hmm..."there are a great many things which can be blamed on Bards". Yeah, surely. Sarevok's demise, Khalid's death, the fall of Irenicus...
CHARNAME would have had the chance to meet every class type while growing up at Candlekeep.
Gorion would have had a influence but also your childhood best friend was Imoen a thief class
CHARNAME probably had to do chores while agrowing up maybe he was Hulls assistant
There was a Temple in Candlekeep maybe he was the Forgotten Realms equivalent of an Alter boy