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Does the series want you to be a Cleric?

... Or cleric multiclass?

Just wondering if anybody has ever gotten this feeling.

There is one stat tome for each ability, but three for Wisdom.

If you go with the canon party (from what we can deduce from the beginning of BGII), your party has a fighter, a ranger, a thief/mage, a mage, and a fighter/druid. The only basic class not covered is a cleric.

Dunno. Random thoughts on a sleepless Saturday night... LOL.
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  • kcwisekcwise Member Posts: 2,287
    It does seem that way at times, just as those who like to play evil characters in BG 2 used to feel forced into creating a thief class. Now they just feel forced to take Hexxat along. :)
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    No
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,002
    maybe its because it was a way for npcs to get spell boosts for spells, i believe branwen and yeslick have the highest wisdom at 16 and all 3 books boost them to 19 so maybe its the fact that specialist wizards get so many spells with dual rings of wizardry ( well at least back in the day when you could use 2 at once) so maybe they thought that giving them some more wisdom can boost that up a bit, plus when ToSC came out that is when the 3rd tome came out and made it so if you were a druid with 18 wis start, you could get another level 5 spell
  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 405
    edited October 2014
    I never thought about that considering that you have Viconia and Aerie for cleric spells.
    Right now I am doing a new run from bg1 only using the new npc and there is no healer so I am playing a shadowdancer until bg2 where I will dual to a cleric and take hexxat.
  • MichailMichail Member Posts: 196
    bengoshi said:

    Actually, I've always thought the series want you to be a mage:

    You're a Gorion's ward and Gorion was a wizard. Irenicus (again a wizard) in your dreams teaches you several times to use arcane magic.

    I second that. Mage always felt the only natural class for the PC. Or maybe sorcerer, now that it is possible (it wasn't when BG1 came out).
  • DeltharisDeltharis Member Posts: 124
    No way, paladin is clearly the correct choice. All that evil to destroy, Minsc at your side and Carsomyr in your hand, that can't be a coincidence.
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,857
    I assumed it was so you could dual both Dyn and Xzar to Clerics. ;)

    But yeah, its odd because clerics even without Tomes are beasts in BG1, maybe these are to let you suck less in ToB?
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    I know the tomes are supposed to be "magic" but I always imagined that if reading books was to increase any ability score, wisdom would make the most sense.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,758
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  • MerinaMerina Member Posts: 303
    Does it matter?

    I mean, the game gives you plenty of options to choose from for your personal character, but only a limited number of NPCs for single player games. Depending on which NPCs you want to add to your party and which weapons you like, being the single cleric can be an option.

    Neera, Keldorn, Mazzy, Valygar, Imoen, me

    No divine caster! No Jaheira, no Anomen, no Aerie! And for Neera's enemies, if you want to visit her early - more mercenaries than wizards! - it seems plausible to make myself a heavy armored cleric. I've done it like Anomen, dual-classed at fighter level 7 in BGEE and continued the saga with a fighter/cleric that's a lot more powerful than Anomen. The only downside, which didn't affect me in defeating Irenicus though, has been Imoen. To me she appeared as mostly useless except for her thieving skills, especially as I gave her the two thieving rings, and Neera advanced further with her spells. It feels like a wasted slot in the party. I thought about replacing her with another fighter - Minsc or Anomen even - although that may sound weird because of the story, as I don't feel good about leaving her alone with a lost soul.

    Eventually I noticed that my transferred dual-class capable fighters could become also a thief - and gosh, I love it. Kensai level 9 -> thief. Cannot use range weapons and gauntlets/bracers, an oversight by me (should have used the plain fighter instead of the Kensai) and may become a problem because I may want to make someone else learn using a bow ... but while many topics on how to play thieves seem way too advanced to me, learning by doing is the way to go here. It is really fun! First time I enjoy playing a thief in a non-multiplayer game, because he's useful actually.
  • SharGuidesMyHandSharGuidesMyHand Member Posts: 2,583
    Klorox said:


    Dunno. Random thoughts on a sleepless Saturday night... LOL.

    Don't worry, I've shared the same thoughts even when I'm not sleepless. ;-)

    Becoming a cleric also makes sense when you consider that you were raised in a secluded library fortress surrounded by holy books.
  • CutlassJackCutlassJack Member Posts: 493
    No it just means the game knew I chose Wisdom as my dump stat.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,758
    edited October 2014
    abacus said:

    Definitely meant to be a Bard



    Hmm..."there are a great many things which can be blamed on Bards". Yeah, surely. Sarevok's demise, Khalid's death, the fall of Irenicus...
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    [Insert half-assed, made-up reason why CHARNAME was clearly meant to be a warrior class in the same vein as the rest of the thread]
  • kcwisekcwise Member Posts: 2,287
    Hey, these reasons are totally full-assed.
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  • NimranNimran Member Posts: 4,875
    edited October 2014
    Good quality ass, right there. Which will probably be taken the wrong way.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Ooh, I hope they at least ask first.
  • FelspawnFelspawn Member Posts: 161
    as far as i'm concerned the game wants you to be a mage or Bard. Personally i love being a Blade.
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