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Despised!

FrdNwsmFrdNwsm Member Posts: 1,069
in Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition
I just noticed that our reputation went from "average" (9) to "despised" (4). This apparently was the result of rescuing Viconia, despite the fact that we didn't take her into the party. If we had done so, our reputation would have dropped further? What's below "despised"? "Kill those swine"?

How can we regain our street rep? By doing good things, obviously, but any specific suggestions?

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  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    You might have accidentally killed a bystander with area effect damage. Donating money to a temple will restore your reputation. I think you could get it back to 9 with five donations of 1,000 gold each.
  • FrdNwsmFrdNwsm Member Posts: 1,069
    Temples! Ah, ok; that worked in BG1, didn't think of it here. Thanks.

    Stupid bystanders! They should know enough to take cover when the fecal matter starts hitting the rotating air circulation device.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Donating to a temple would be the easiest way. Manual 2 probably has a chart that will show you how much you need to donate to get to the next reputation level.
  • FrdNwsmFrdNwsm Member Posts: 1,069
    I happened to have a saved game from just prior to rescuing Viconia; rather a bit of luck since I generally only keep 2 save slots and alternate using them. So I reloaded that scenario.

    Indeed, there were only a couple of fanatics. When we started attacking them, all 4 of the bystanders turned hostile (red) also. I figured they were fair game at that point and would start fighting us. This time around, I left them alone and ... guess what? They just stood there. When the fanatics were all dead and the show was over, they still stayed red but just walked away. And my rep stayed average.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    You can kill the fanatics without incurring a reputation loss. At least in an unmodded game. Somebody in your group must have hit an innocent bystander at some point.
  • YannirYannir Member Posts: 595
    Yeah, they should just panic and run away. Not turn hostile.
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    Don't use AoE spells with civilians around, especially those with persistent damage effects like Cloudkill. Also watch out for enemies that cast Chaos/Confusion-type spells on your party. Those are the most common causes of collateral damage resulting in serious reputation penalty on your party.
  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    Also watch out for weapons with nasty AoE effects, like that club and 2h sword that can detonate a fireball on hit - ruins your day in a city, or with other friendlies around.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    You can also just use CTRL-Y on all nearby civilians. Then you don't have to worry about your reputation.
  • FrdNwsmFrdNwsm Member Posts: 1,069
    I didn't use any AOE attacks the first time, but I did whack away with weapons. As I said, when they turned red I figured they were about to attack. I had never encountered a scenario in either BG1 or BG2 with hostile beings who just walked away instead of fighting. That was a bit different.

    What does ctrl-y do?
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    semiticgod said:

    You can also just use CTRL-Y on all nearby civilians. Then you don't have to worry about your reputation.

    Lawful evil at its finest.

    Ctrl+Y kills anything under your cursor.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    Have you done the quest where you have to take a dying flaming fist deserter called Samuel back to the Temple at the Friendly Arm Inn?

    'Cause if you did, and if you by chance you fought the flaming fist soldier who was there, it may have caused a 5 reputarion loss.

    Actually, I do that when I want my neutral characters to keep an average reputation, without commiting any evil acts.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I didn't know there were Flaming Fists in Athkatla.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    semiticgod said:

    I didn't know there were Flaming Fists in Athkatla.

    Oh, I thought this was a BG1 thread! How embarassing...
  • FrdNwsmFrdNwsm Member Posts: 1,069
    edited March 2015
    The Samuel thing was in BG1; and on the return trip, I avoided the flaming fist enforcer who asked us to bring Samuel back to him. Ended up BG1 with a reputation of 20. Never had to kill any of them, even after they started hunting us for murder; we'd just hit them with web and entangle and go on our merry way.
  • DJKajuruDJKajuru Member Posts: 3,300
    FrdNwsm said:

    The Samuel thing was in BG1; and on the return trip, I avoided the flaming fist enforcer who asked us to bring Samuel back to him. Ended up BG1 with a reputation of 20. Never had to kill any of them, even after they started hunting us for murder; we'd just hit them with web and entangle and go on our merry way.

    Oh , don't get me wrong. I would never have a neutral character kill a flaming fist enforcer who was trying to arrest him or just following Angelo's orders. I made an exception from Samuel's case because he was a desertor, and the the guard was going to apply death penalty on him , pretty much like Viconia's case.
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