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Minimum roll is 75?

moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,052
Can anyone point me in the direction of proof concluding that minimum starting roll for a character is 75 points OR could someone from Beamdog in the position of knowing the coding confirm this please? Is this also true for the previous versions of BG and not just the EE's?

I'm having a discussion with a rather stubborn person and this would be the simplest way to shut them down.

Thanks in advance!

lolien

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  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,052
    I fully understand this. I'm simply looking for proof of this (other than the 30 minutes of rolling characters on Youtube I have lined up).

    lolien
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,052
    Perfecto. That will do nicely.

    JuliusBorisov
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 18,694
    SethDavis said:

    How about a developer testimony?

    "I solemnly swear that this restriction is in the code, with the addendum that the total of the values can be reduced below 75 by de-allocating points and continuing with them in the pool."

    So sayeth the wise SethDavis

    moody_mageSmilingSwordBlackraven
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,052
    Apparently everyone here is mocking me and thinks I'm an a$$hole (not denying it :P), @SethDavis's testimony is actually a sarcastic mockery of me and doesn't count as he didn't develop the original BG and I'm pretty much a terrible person for using the term 'stubborn' to describe someone.

    WilburSethDavis
  • WilburWilbur Member Posts: 1,173
    decado said:

    Apparently everyone here is mocking me and thinks I'm an a$$hole (not denying it :P), @SethDavis's testimony is actually a sarcastic mockery of me and doesn't count as he didn't develop the original BG and I'm pretty much a terrible person for using the term 'stubborn' to describe someone.

    There are certain people you just don't argue with.

    moody_mage
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,456
    He has access to the code regardless... So moot point.

    SethDavis
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,367
    edited May 2015
    You could always throw this person off a bridge. It'll be like what, a -2 to your reputation? Just do a quest or two, maybe drop Viconia from your party for a little bit, and you'll be fine.

    Edit: Btw, the above is obviously a joke. Don't actually throw people off bridges. Unless it's Noober. Then it's ok.

    FinneousPJSmilingSword
  • SethDavisSethDavis Member Posts: 1,812
    edited May 2015
    hmmm, fair enough I suppose lol

    on further thought, while I have access to the code and can see how it's changed from the original, the original is for bg2 rather than bg1 (I think)

    Post edited by SethDavis on
    JuliusBorisov
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 15,941
    People will believe what they want to believe. Sometimes when you are facing someone that adamantly believes something its best to just walk away. They'll figure it out in time.

  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 6,785
    Who ever is arguing the point.

    Sit them down in front of a computer and load up the orginial baldur's gate.

    Place 500 dollars on the table.

    Tell the person to roll a character and continuously reroll it till they roll an amount less than 75. Once they do, they get the 500 dollars.

    For every reroll the person does though, they have to give you ten cents.

    They can give up rolling whenever they want but if they dont roll less than 75 they dont get thr 500 dollars and still owe you however much they rolled for.

    Easy money.

    SethDavisDaevelon
  • moody_magemoody_mage Member Posts: 2,052
    It was an internet discussion and it was apparently too difficult to reinstall the game to test, nor should they have to as it my my assertion that this behaviour existed therefore the burden of proof was on me. Fair enough.

    Hence the links to six or seven youtube videos all detailing character creation, all of which not showing a single roll under 75 and the cherry on top being a developer confirmation.

    It's a lost cause. The person in question has never completed a game of BG and believes the manual supplied with the original BG saga is a holy grail and cannot be disbelieved. I wrote off the discussion at that point and didn't go into the numerous errors present in that manual.

  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 15,941
    edited May 2015
    decado said:


    It's a lost cause. The person in question has never completed a game of BG and believes the manual supplied with the original BG saga is a holy grail and cannot be disbelieved. I wrote off the discussion at that point and didn't go into the numerous errors present in that manual.

    Pff that manual was perfect. Everyone knows that Detect Invisibility will detect any target within 10 yards/level. Likewise Web could be cast at a range of 5 yards/level.

    Ohh and Haste? Only affects 1 creature/level.

    Confusion of course casts in a 60 foot cube. Much better than Entangle's 40 foot cube or Bless's 50 foot cube.

    These are all undeniable facts. :p

    JuliusBorisov
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 6,785
    decado said:

    It was an internet discussion and it was apparently too difficult...

    NSFW but... http://ftf-comics.com/?comic=internet-idiots

    elminster
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