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About sharing other people's art/ How to properly source

ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,745
edited July 2015 in Fan Creations
Hello, my fellow forumites ~

Quite a lot of you (and myself included) like to share artworks they did not create themselves in these forums. This is all fine and dandy and in a lot of cases actually quite helpful for us artists, since what goes around, comes around.

However, there are a few things to keep in mind when sharing art:

1. Is the artist ok with me sharing their art?
2. And if so, how do I share it without discrediting them?
3. What do I do if there is no source available?

As an example in this thread, I am gonna use one of Max Dunbar's illustrations from the official IDW Baldur's Gate comic (which is a great comic btw, you should all read it).

As an extra note I'd like to ad, that this goes for pretty much any form of art and content, not just drawing/ painting but also writing, music, modding, photography, etc.

If you wish to use or modify other people's works, please check my guide on that right here.

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1. First, check if the artist has stated somewhere, if they don't want their art to be reposted anywhere. If they do, do not, under any circumstances, repost it anywhere. If you want to share it, post a link to it instead.
And by link, I don't mean a link like this, but rather a link like this.

"But Cheeeese," I hear you ask, "why is this important?"

Easy, my fellow forumite, if you use the latter form of the link, other people actually get the opportunity to leave a comment directly for the artist and if they happen to be a user of that website, they get to further interact with it. If it's on DeviantArt, they can fav and watch the artist, if it's on Tumblr, they can reblog it and help the artist that way, etc. I think you get what I am trying to say.

Always keep in mind though: Artists are people and people are different, so different artists will have different opinions on how to share their art. But generally speaking, the vast majority of artists are ok with sharing if you properly credit them. If you really want to play it safe, ask the artist directly for permission. And in case they decline you, respect that. Otherwise they can literally sue you.

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2. So the artist doesn't state anywhere that they don't want their art shared/ reposted? Then it's usually safe to assume that you are allowed to do so. IF you give proper credit that is. How to do that though?
Easy: When you post the picture of your choice, simply add the name of the artist and a link to the source either atop or below it. If known, it's also nice to include the title of the artwork, but this is optional. Also, don't forget to use the correct source link I mentioned in 1.

Example:

DnD Legends of Baldur's Gate No4 Cover by Max-Dunbar
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"Credit to whomever made this" or something along those lines is NOT sufficient! Same goes for "Source: DeviantArt" and the likes. If you do that anyway, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell.

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3. What to do though if you don't know the source for whatever reason? Maybe someone has send you the image directly, maybe you found it only as an improperly credited repost. First, check if the image itself contains some information. Artists often include watermarks, names of their websites or their own names in their images. If you find a website or name, look for those. If there isn't either, fear not, for there is yet another way: Google Image search.

image

You see that little symbol that looks like a photocamera? If you click on it, it let's you upload and directly search for this specific image online. It is great for finding sources. Common sources often, but not exclusively are DeviantArt, Tumblr and Pixiv. Reddit and Facebook usually aren't.

However, if you can't find the source even through this, you probably shouldn't share the image in question.

If the image in question happens to be from a movie, game, book, etc. where you can't determine which of the many people who worked on it is the creator, it is ok to name said movie/ game/ book/ etc. as a source instead.

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Thanks for reading, happy sharing and remember:

The original creator/ owner ALWAYS has the last word.

Post edited by Buttercheese on
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Comments

  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 6,984
    I will sticky it for now.

    ButtercheeseJuliusBorisovlolien
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,745
  • CuvCuv Member, Developer Posts: 2,532
    I like this - good job @Buttercheese I would say this should also apply to other content - mods, music, sounds, areas concepts/art, etc

    ButtercheeseJuliusBorisovlolien
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,745
    edited July 2015
    @Cuv Thanks a lot :D And yes, it should, I will ad that immediately.
    (Also, thanks for the promote :) )

    CuvJuliusBorisovlolien
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,437
    Stickied, Tweeted, Facebooked. @Boozilla will probably want to see this too; I know this is a subject that she cares a lot about.

    ButtercheeseBoozillaJuliusBorisovlolien
  • ShandyrShandyr Member Posts: 8,263
    edited July 2015
    Great guideline! This should give us more clarity on the issue and hopefully pay due respects to artists.

    However I have some questions:


    2. So the artist doesn't state anywhere that they don't want their art shared/ reposted? Then it's usually safe to assume that you are allowed to do so. IF you give proper credit that is. How to do that though?
    Easy: When you post the picture of your choice, simply add the name of the artist and a link to the source either atop or below it. If known, it's also nice to include the title of the artwork, but this is optional. Also, don't forget to use the correct source link I mentioned in 1.

    1.) In my thread here I avoided links deliberately.

    Because in some cases a picture that is still within PG13 is on a website that features other pictures that would get a mature rating. And I would not like to link to such a website.

    If people wanted to find the place where the picture was originally published they can still use the artist's name and google image search.

    Would links that link to sites with mature content not offend the site rules of this forum?
    What should I do in that case?

    2.) What do we do with youtube embedded videos?
    Do we have to state the name of the artist also?
    What about a link?
    The actual link to youtube is converted to the embedded video.
    However youtube is in most cases not the original place where artists share their work. Other people unrelated to the artist do.
    Do we need to find the website where the actual artist shared their work first?

    3.) I'd like to know if the OP is a guideline or if it will be incorporated in the forum rules. @Dee

    4.) And last but not least: I did post some artworks whose artists I could not find out.
    Even with google image search. Should I delete those?

  • ShandyrShandyr Member Posts: 8,263
    edited July 2015
    I've been thinking on the problem with links a bit more.

    5.) How do we keep them up to date? Do we even have to?

    Take @LadyRhian for example. She has posted a lot, like really A LOT, of pictures on this forum.
    Let's say she would have provided a link for each artwork to the original website.

    So what if the link changes? What if the artist decided to rearrange their website?

    Should we check our links? What if they change in one year, two years, three years and so on?
    How often can we be expected to check all our links we ever posted to artworks to be still up to date?

    6.) This raises another question: There are people here who already posted a lot in the past.
    Are the guidelines in the OP retroactive?
    Is every member on this forum expected to check every post of any artwork they ever made and
    apply the guidelines to it?

  • image

    You see that little symbol that looks like a photocamera? If you click on it, it let's you upload and directly search for this specific image online. It is great for finding sources. Common sources often, but not exclusively are DeviantArt, Tumblr and Pixiv. Reddit and Facebook usually aren't.
    I had no idea you could do this with Google, and it makes me super excited to know I can! Thank you for the insight! :smiley:
    I did not know you could do this either. Thank you for teaching an "old dog" a new trick. :-)

    ButtercheeselolienancientclownCrevsDaak
  • ancientclownancientclown Member Posts: 15

    image

    You see that little symbol that looks like a photocamera? If you click on it, it let's you upload and directly search for this specific image online. It is great for finding sources. Common sources often, but not exclusively are DeviantArt, Tumblr and Pixiv. Reddit and Facebook usually aren't.
    I had no idea you could do this with Google, and it makes me super excited to know I can! Thank you for the insight! :smiley:
    I did not know you could do this either. Thank you for teaching an "old dog" a new trick. :-)
    Agreed...I usually start off just doing a free image search and never knew you could use this way...though it didn't end up helping me backtrack exactly for finding where i first got the image i altered, that is more due to my bad habits and creative work flow.
    But today i learned something new and can take the rest of the day off...Learn something new every day quest completed.

    lolienCrevsDaak
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