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  • ArviaArvia Member, Moderator Posts: 1,956
    Arvia wrote: »
    Another possibly unpopular opinion: The thief ability "use any item" shouldn't exist.
    Jan Jansen wielding Carsomir?!

    Actually Jan can't wield Carsomyr because he isn't strong enough. Use Any Item really should be renamed Use Any Item (so long as you can pick it up).

    Wouldn't spells/potions enable him to pick it up? Strength of one for example?

    If you give him one of the strength belts, he can wield Carsomyr. At least he could before the EE, I don't know if he can now.
    Wise_Grimwald
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,829
    Gnomes are the best! HUZZAH!
    AndrewFoleyDJKajuru
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,269
    edited January 2021
    Gnomes are the best! HUZZAH!

    Wait, how is that unpopular? Jan Jansen rocks!

    Hold on, by saying that, am I now implying that Jan isn't popular because of the thread title? I guess I should say that Jan sucks in order to imply that Jan sucking is an unpopular opinion? I'm so confused... ?

    Edit: I was going to like that comment, but by doing that am I liking that gnomes are the best, or am I really liking that gnomes are the worst? I can't agree with it either because what am I agreeing with? I think I now know how to make a Vulcan's head explode!
    Grond0Wise_GrimwaldKatzerchen
  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,048
    lroumen wrote: »
    You can simply like a person's enthusiasm for example.

    Liking someone's enthusiasm, ugh. I'm sure we can all agree that that's an unpopular opinion :p.
  • megamike15megamike15 Member Posts: 2,651
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Gnomes are the best! HUZZAH!

    Wait, how is that unpopular? Jan Jansen rocks!

    because grobnar might be the most annoying character i have ever seen in an rpg.
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 856
    Grond0 wrote: »
    lroumen wrote: »
    You can simply like a person's enthusiasm for example.
    Liking someone's enthusiasm, ugh. I'm sure we can all agree that that's an unpopular opinion :p.
    And that is why I can unironically call Garrick "best bard".

    Wise_GrimwaldHalfOrcBeastmaster
  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,256
    Gnomes are the best! HUZZAH!

    Not unpopular!! :D
    Angulimala
  • AngulimalaAngulimala Member Posts: 82
    Sorcerers are boring. Wild mages are the best, Neera is a better, more interesting NPC than Edwin.
    SkatanGundanRTO
  • HalfOrcBeastmasterHalfOrcBeastmaster Member Posts: 297
    Blackbɨrd wrote: »
    borntodie wrote: »
    Blackbɨrd wrote: »
    borntodie wrote: »
    Minsc, Edwin and Jan Jansen never stop being funny.

    I'm going to have to disagree with you on Jan. A lot of people actually find him annoying.
    I can't reply. I'm allergic!
    ..
    Well, all right. I'm not THAT allergic.

    Glad to hear my opinion is unpopular. Lots of people hate Minsc and Edwin too, I hope.

    Your opinion isn't even unpopular or close to being unpopular. Minsc is literally the poster boy of Baldur's Gate, everyone loves him. He's the face of Baldur's Gate (love Minsc). Edwin, sure people hate him but he's also one of the most liked party members and he's also the best mage in the game.

    I wouldn't say everyone... Ahem. @Me. Pfft.
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 856
    I've never actually taken Edwin past the bandit camp, I find him that distasteful. Baeloth might be more evil but he's still got that veneer of entertaining newness on top of his misfortunes being entirely his own fault.
    Wise_GrimwaldStummvonBordwehr
  • HalfOrcBeastmasterHalfOrcBeastmaster Member Posts: 297
    Pokota wrote: »
    I've never actually taken Edwin past the bandit camp, I find him that distasteful. Baeloth might be more evil but he's still got that veneer of entertaining newness on top of his misfortunes being entirely his own fault.

    In general I prefer Sorcerers to Mages. They're lower maintenance, and you don't need to constantly save up money to fill up their spellbooks.
  • kanisathakanisatha Member Posts: 1,308
    The best class is a fighter.

    Can I get an 'Amen' on this?! B)
    StummvonBordwehrDapifer
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 856
    You don't need a cleric or a druid, ever.
    As a cleric, I will gladly die on this hill.

  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 2,429
    My party composition for my latest complete run - full clear with SCS/Ascension, insane difficulty:
    - Fighter/thief (protagonist)
    - Fighter (Mazzy)
    - Berserker (Korgan)
    - Inquisitor (Keldorn)
    - Sun Soul Monk (Rasaad)
    - Blade (Haer'Dalis - and he never memorized spells)

    No, you don't need clerics, druids, or even any sort of spellcasting to kill things and stay alive.

    Granted, some party concepts do require the magic. My current run is all about killing with fire, and that means I need spellcasters to deliver the fire and magic to protect the party. I had an Avenger in salamander form as part of my BG1 front line, for example. And in BG2, all six long-term party members have spell slots (a mage, a sorcerer, two druids, a cleric, a paladin)
    Adam_en_tiumAerakar
  • AerakarAerakar Member Posts: 788
    edited February 2021
    That is interesting @HalfOrcBeastmaster . I usually avoid Neera except for her quests because I dislike Wild Mage uncertainty, but I found her ok otherwise. I am finishing BG and about to go into SOD and then BG2 (if I survive!) and am thinking whom to romance, preferably someone different this time.

    I usually go with Viconia as I like her story arc, although I really liked the Jahiera romance also. I am thinking Aerie because I run a small party and she is versatile and have never romanced her. But maybe Neera also is an option! Care to elaborate?
    Adam_en_tiumStummvonBordwehrkanisathaWise_Grimwald
  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,256
    You'll probably find that the Aerie romance isn't that interesting though having both her and Korgan in the party can be interesting.
  • DanacmDanacm Member Posts: 920
    I dont like the current weapon specialization rules.
    Also dont like the enchantment level to hit rules.
    Aaand i really hate protection magical weapon spell :smiley:
    StummvonBordwehrPermidion_StarkWise_GrimwaldThacoBell
  • alice_ashpoolalice_ashpool Member Posts: 261
    edited April 2021
    Dragon Disciples are better than Sorcerers

    Ranged weapons are at their best in Throne of Bhaal.

    Monks are good from start to finish.

    Unkitted thieves are great.

    If you do the Kirinhale quest with a Good/Neutral party for that sweet 4K XP you are going to hell.

    BG1 has a better story than BG2.

    Specialist Mage (3-5) -> Fighter dual is the most powerful class.
    Adam_en_tiumAerakarStummvonBordwehr
  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,256
    @alice_ashpool Not all of those are unpopular. :D
    StummvonBordwehr
  • Permidion_StarkPermidion_Stark Member Posts: 4,858
    My unpopular opinions are more popular than my opinions.
    StummvonBordwehrWise_GrimwaldBalrog99Aerakar
  • SBlackSBlack Member Posts: 32
    edited July 2021
    I'm mentioning this because I've read sooooo many posts saying people loved the exploration in BG1 and were disappointed with the supposedly more railroaded BG2.
    I just don't understand it. The vaunted exploration in BG1 is terribly overrated and many people view the game with very rose colored glasses. I like the quests around Nashkel, Beregost, Cloakwood and the fishing village, but with very few exceptions (Mutamin's Garden, Shipwreck's Coast, Archaeological Site, Red Canyons, Ulcaster) the rest of the wilderness areas are completely boring visually, storytelling-wise and gamplay-wise. That includes Gullykin and Firewine Bridge, which could have been so much better. The Lighthouse is a nice visual change, but the gameplay there is terrible too.
    The only reason to visit any of the other areas is to grind XP if necessary. It's such a waste of time.

    I can see how that stuff would be nice for a tabletop DnD campaign, and it's arguably more "realistic" than Athkatla being stuffed full of magic everywhere, but it doesn't translate well to a computer game. This stuff may have been nice when the game was released, but to still hold it up as objectively good today makes no sense whatsoever.

    I also don't think some of the shitting on later Bioware games and the EEs is justified when it holding up BG1 specifically at the standard. There are all kinds of silly and light-hearted dialogues, as well as jarring fourth wall breaking and real life references/in-jokes. But those are seemingly never criticized. Rose colored glasses again.
    Post edited by SBlack on
    PokotaStummvonBordwehrSkatanThacoBell
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 856
    I wholeheartedly agree with you, with the reservation that I like the more pastoral setting of BG1 compared to the more cosmopolitan setting of BG2. That and I'm a sucker for low-level adventures.
    SkatanThacoBell
  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,256
    edited July 2021
    @SBlack Well that's certainly an unpopular opinion.

    With mods some of the areas are even better.

    If you are wanting boring areas however some mods such as "The Secret of Bonehill" have vast areas with nothing of interest. That mod is in serious need of some additions in the empty areas.
    Post edited by Wise_Grimwald on
    StummvonBordwehr
  • Permidion_StarkPermidion_Stark Member Posts: 4,858
    Unpopular opinion: Switching CDs and waiting for screens to load was relaxing and provided a much-needed break during gameplay.
    ArviaStummvonBordwehrshabadoo
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