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Party of Corwin, Voghiln, M’Khiin and Glint . Who to choose as a CHARNAME and the 5th NPC?

JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,753
Before the release of BG2EE, I wanted to make a first run through it with all the available EE NPCs so that I could see theire content and understand them better. I asked this community on your thoughts about choosing a CHARNAME's and the 5th NPC's classes and kits.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/23468/party-of-dorn-hexxat-rasaad-and-neera-who-to-choose-as-a-charname-and-the-5th-npc/

It was a good discussion, with people recommending making an Avenger and taking Viconia. it turned out to be a good choice and I've liked my first BG2EE playthrough with that party a lot.

Now, with SoD becoming nearer, I'm thinking about going through SoD for the first time with every 4 new NPCs.

I know that one can play and enjoy any class (kit), but still I wonder what may the most interesting choices be in terms of CHARNAME and the 5th NPC.

There's of course a problem that we still don't know which NPC(s) in particular won't be avaible for SoD after its start, but still we have a lot of NPCs, including BGEE's Dorn, Neera, Rasaad and Baeloth.

So:

CHARNAME - ?

Captain Schael Corwin - Archer

Voghiln the Vast - Skald

M’Khiin Grubdoubler - Shaman

Glint Gardnersonson - Cleric/Thief (and I really think he will be a Cleric/Thief and not, for example, a Cleric/Ilusionist, https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/666394/#Comment_666394)

NPC - ?

I hope this discussion can be interesting not only for me but for others as well because the decision to take all 4 new NPCs may be quite popular.

Comments

  • KingGhidorahKingGhidorah Member Posts: 201
    Well, the thing is we don't know the general premise of the battles in SoD yet, which makes things interesting.
    Will it have the epic mage battles of BG2 or feature the huge horde swarming of the IWD games? We just don't know yet.

    You're desired party lacks two things: melee and (arcane) magic. So if you're intend on making a balanced party though, I would go for Dorn/Rasaad depending on your alignment (monks start actually becoming decent around the lvl 10 range) for melee power, while your charname is a mage/sorcerer or a mage multiclass
    That kind of party would be prepared for any type of situation.
    Heck you could even go the other way around and pick Neera and play a melee type yourself.
  • WowoWowo Member Posts: 2,064
    Seems straight forward to observe that some more arcane magic and 2 front liners would be the way to go.

    Fighter 8/Illusionist 9 or Berserker 7/Mage 11 as charname
    Somebody tanking in the front line as the fifth NPC (what are the options here?)

    I can appreciate that "fighter/mage" probably isnt want you want to hear but it looks to fit very well.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    Odds are they gave Baeloth actual content this time around, so...
  • OzzyBotkinsOzzyBotkins Member Posts: 396
    Im trying to decide on what my next CHARMANE for BG:EE plus SoD play through will be
    what to go cannon with
    Minsc
    Imoen
    Dynaheir
    Kalid
    Jaheira
    Im interested to see what they do with that story line

  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    Xan is a top warrior when you buff him. then the protagonist can be anything. Barbarian could be cute in the North.
  • rorikonrorikon Member Posts: 105
    As has already been said you'll need both a tank and an arcane caster.

    If you decide to play a warrior type yourself I'd agree that Baeloth sounds like a pretty good choice for the 5th npc, but Edwin (or Neera if you don't want too many evil npcs) would work well. As for the specific CHARNAME class that would be down to your own preferences, but I'd probably try a dwarven defender, since they have 1d12 base hitpoints per level plus potentially a bonus from 20 CON (which also gives regeneration), which would be fairly effective, and that's before you include defensive stance!

    For an arcane CHARNAME my first choice would be Kagain (are you seeing a pattern here?), since once you equip him with gauntlets of dexterity and that cursed strength belt he has perfect stats for a fighter. Ajantis might work well if you don't want someone evil. It's a shame Minsc is still attached to Dynaheir, otherwise he might make a fun choice :)

    If I wasn't being so powergamey and more roleplayery I'd probably still bring Baeloth if I needed an arcane caster, but for the warrior npcs I might go for Kivan or even Shar-Teel, since we've absolutely no idea what happened to them after BG1 :)
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    I agree with Shawne

    Go Baeloth and a tank. Perhaps a DD
  • WowoWowo Member Posts: 2,064
    deltago said:

    I agree with Shawne

    Go Baeloth and a tank. Perhaps a DD

    All such combinations leave a total of about one real front line character. All others are in light or no armour.

    No, I reiterate, a party with the 4 new NPCs should have charname and the fifth as 2 front liners, not 1. F/M plus Ajantis or something works fine or even a Blade with a tank type NPC perhaps.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    Wowo said:

    All such combinations leave a total of about one real front line character. All others are in light or no armour.

    True, but that's where the characters' special abilities come in. If M'Khiin, per the Shaman description, can summon an endless supply of spirits, they can supplement a tank Charname easily (plus Animate Dead via Baeloth/Voghiln).
  • wubblewubble Member Posts: 3,156
    Minsc, always Minsc.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    shawne said:

    Wowo said:

    All such combinations leave a total of about one real front line character. All others are in light or no armour.

    True, but that's where the characters' special abilities come in. If M'Khiin, per the Shaman description, can summon an endless supply of spirits, they can supplement a tank Charname easily (plus Animate Dead via Baeloth/Voghiln).
    And it is why I said DD. Have him Argo everyone and they let his stance take over.

    Skalds can also easily double as tanks espically with eleven chain and the new bard hat.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    I'm sure Voghiln or Corwin would both make passable off-tanks. We still don't know if Corwin actually has the Archer kit, or is a bow-specialised fighter, anyway.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511

    Im trying to decide on what my next CHARMANE for BG:EE plus SoD play through will be
    what to go cannon with
    Minsc
    Imoen
    Dynaheir
    Kalid
    Jaheira
    Im interested to see what they do with that story line

    The canon party is pretty well balanced, but their is no one who can turn undead, so maybe a cleric? Imoen may be unavailable for part of SoD, so maybe a cleric/thief?
  • DhariusDharius Member Posts: 664
    The thing is, unlike BGEE and BG2EE, with new dialogues and quests etc. - all NPCs that occur in the game (Minsc, Imoen or whoever) will be "new", not just the 4 "brand new" characters, so you might be restricting your choices here?
  • VasculioVasculio Member Posts: 482
    Thats not a bad idea

    PC- Fighter
    Captain Schael Corwin - Archer
    Voghiln the Vast - Skald
    M’Khiin Grubdoubler - Shaman
    Glint Gardnersonson - Cleric
    Baeloth The Entertainer - Sorcerer
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    Vasculio said:

    Thats not a bad idea

    PC- Fighter
    Captain Schael Corwin - Archer
    Voghiln the Vast - Skald
    M’Khiin Grubdoubler - Shaman
    Glint Gardnersonson - Cleric
    Baeloth The Entertainer - Sorcerer

    Exactly. And Glint can handle any thief-related tasks too (locks, traps, etc.).
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,753
    Dharius said:

    The thing is, unlike BGEE and BG2EE, with new dialogues and quests etc. - all NPCs that occur in the game (Minsc, Imoen or whoever) will be "new", not just the 4 "brand new" characters, so you might be restricting your choices here?

    Of course, this is true in a sense that I already want to make several playthoughs of SoD with different parties. How can I miss new Jim Cumming's and Jeniffer Hale's works? Or new epicness from Edwin about simians?

    But still, I'm somehow sure that the amout of the new content for SoD NPCs will be the biggest.

    And a great idea about Baeloth. I didn't think about it and now it seems very appealing to me. Indeed, it seems that for SoD there's nothing preventing making a lot of content for Baeloth, especially when a part of SoD will be in the Underdark.
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