You know, with this film and BG:EE both being released around the same time, it's going to be a grand Christmas time, I have to say. Thanks for sharing the trailer! Really looking forward to this movie.
I'm not sure what to think now that it's a trilogy. On one hand LOTR is about five times as long, but The Hobbit is a lot more action orientated and there's less stuff to cut out than there was in LOTR. The other thing is that LOTR had natural breaks between the films whereas The Hobbit doesn't, so while when watching FOTR I felt content at the end, it may be harder to pull this off for The Hobbit.
Ditto that I'm not sure what to think of Jackson making it a trilogy. There's the financial motive, obviously. I guess the tale can be broken into three parts well enough if it is filled out with material from Tolkien's notes and appendices. I'm confident that Jackson will do an excellent job with it. I suppose I don't mind watching it in three parts as long as it's enthralling and well paced.
I'm not happy about the 3-movie thing. Especially since it's all being filmed now afaik. Anyway, when I saw the trailer in the theater, I almost leapt out of my seat with excitement. Yeah. We want to see this!
It was filmed at 4k Resolution, 3D and at 60FPS. Basically Jackson had the best cameras money could buy and ran with it. They even did the storyboarding in 3D, so I'm not expecting any cheap after thought 3D effects.
That book was such a fun read. It really did look like a blueprint for dnd, which made it even more fun to read. I loved all of the treasure described in that story, and thought Smaug was so cute, rolling around in his (or was it a her) loot. Also the tale of the black arrow was pretty interesting. The entire time I read it, I had envisioned a cartoon fantasy.
It was filmed at 4k Resolution, 3D and at 60FPS. Basically Jackson had the best cameras money could buy and ran with it. They even did the storyboarding in 3D, so I'm not expecting any cheap after thought 3D effects.
Ugh, I hate films that are filmed for 3D. You can tell when a scene has been set up for 3D shooting as opposed to more traditional filmmaking and generally it is worse for it.
It was filmed at 4k Resolution, 3D and at 60FPS. Basically Jackson had the best cameras money could buy and ran with it. They even did the storyboarding in 3D, so I'm not expecting any cheap after thought 3D effects.
Ugh, I hate films that are filmed for 3D. You can tell when a scene has been set up for 3D shooting as opposed to more traditional filmmaking and generally it is worse for it.
Just because a film was filmed in 3D doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a gimmicky kind of 3D. It'll probably be atmospheric 3d, ala Avatar. Though I hated Avatar, not for the 3D though.
That book was such a fun read. It really did look like a blueprint for dnd, which made it even more fun to read. I loved all of the treasure described in that story, and thought Smaug was so cute, rolling around in his (or was it a her) loot. Also the tale of the black arrow was pretty interesting. The entire time I read it, I had envisioned a cartoon fantasy.
Tolkien WAS the blueprint for 3D, as well for pretty much everything fantasy related since then.
I am so excited! About it being three parts.. I love the books; I also love the radio dramas, and the LotR films, they are all totally different interpretations of the books and this is what we are going to get again, an interpretation. There are plenty of things in the LotR films that are silly, ridiculous and misrepresent the books (imo) but I still like them, you can't have a book in film form, that would be pages of text on the screen.
That book was such a fun read. It really did look like a blueprint for dnd, which made it even more fun to read. I loved all of the treasure described in that story, and thought Smaug was so cute, rolling around in his (or was it a her) loot. Also the tale of the black arrow was pretty interesting. The entire time I read it, I had envisioned a cartoon fantasy.
You know, I had kind of forgotten how seminal this book is to D&D. I.e., re: how clearly Gygax took this material up and ran with it.
The Hobbit establishes races, classes, the adventure/quest, powerful magical treasure, etc., as we're all familiar with those conventions today in tabletop D&D and CRPGs. Prior to the book all these elements existed in mythology and literature, of course. Elves, dwarves, dragons, wizards, enchanted items, quests, etc., were all there. And the Swords and Sorcery genre predates The Hobbit, with what are now high fantasy conventions established there too. But Tolkien, as a scholar, was able to craft mythological elements together into a prototypical and elevated literary form that I don't think other writers had yet achieved. (Much as I admire Robert E. Howard's Conan tales.)
Anyway, in these films I'm hoping that Jackson works his magic again with respect to pacing the action. He did that amazingly well in LotR. So I expect he'll pull it off again. Should be wonderful.
Although I am excited about the HOBBIT movies, I think that they have done a terrible job with the look of the dwarves. From the very first photos, about a year ago, I was very disappointed about PJ's vision of the dwarven race. Then, I somehow got used to them, and I actually liked the first trailer. But, in the second trailer, when I see Elrond, Gandlaf, Thorin and Balin standing together around that ice/crystal thing, I don't think that Thorin looks like a dwarf, but like a very short human! The same goes also for Fili, Kili, Bofur and Ori. Actually, the only dwarves that I like are Gloin, Oin, Dwalin, Bifur and Nori (although I hate his hair).
I agree, the dwarves didn't look how I hoped either. Seeing elves swan about like they are constantly in a shampoo or perfume commercial never appealed to me so seeing Galadriel in full breathy mode again was mildly annoying. Considering the aesthetic of the LOTR films though I'd at least say it was unsurprising. I think they were planning to de-hyena the wargs, which is something.
I think with making Thorin a pretty boy they're trying to fill the void of a dashing male lead, which was Aragorn in LotR. I can't remember the character anymore. Wikipedia describes him thusly:
"Thorin is described as being very haughty, stern, and officious. He has a talent for singing and playing the harp, wears a gold chain, and has a very long beard. His appearance is also characterized by his distinctive sky blue hood. He refers to his homes in the Blue Mountains as "poor lodgings in exile." He is a capable and a cunning warrior, if not a particularly inspiring or clever leader. While shorter than elves or men, Thorin is said to be quite tall for a dwarf."
The other dwarves almost look like the "who rang that bell" guy from the Wizard of Oz.
Is it me, or do they have an almost Victorian Steampunkish vibe to their look?...
I wonder if perhaps this look is how Jackson, based on his extensive research, imagines how Tolkien's mind's eye might have envisioned them? Remember that Tolkien was writing the Hobbit in the 1930's. Maybe that explains the hair and clothing style?
What I can't understand is why PJ make all the dwarves in TH so terrible, while Gimli and the rest of the dwarves (Elrond's council, opening scene with the 7 rings) in LOTR were pretty much as everyone envisioned them. Some will argue that you cannot have 13 identical characters in a movie, but I think that you can make them different without making them look so undwarven. What if PJ wanted to film Silmarilion; would he make all the elves look different by making them fat, ugly etc?
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I am really looking forward to it!
I'm sure they'll do a great job anyway.
I loved all of the treasure described in that story, and thought Smaug was so cute, rolling around in his (or was it a her) loot. Also the tale of the black arrow was pretty interesting. The entire time I read it, I had envisioned a cartoon fantasy.
The new trailer will be up at 7am PST!
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To dungeons deep and caverns old...
Ofcourse I am looking forward to the movie. It will be like experiencing LotR feeling once more.
The Hobbit establishes races, classes, the adventure/quest, powerful magical treasure, etc., as we're all familiar with those conventions today in tabletop D&D and CRPGs. Prior to the book all these elements existed in mythology and literature, of course. Elves, dwarves, dragons, wizards, enchanted items, quests, etc., were all there. And the Swords and Sorcery genre predates The Hobbit, with what are now high fantasy conventions established there too. But Tolkien, as a scholar, was able to craft mythological elements together into a prototypical and elevated literary form that I don't think other writers had yet achieved. (Much as I admire Robert E. Howard's Conan tales.)
Anyway, in these films I'm hoping that Jackson works his magic again with respect to pacing the action. He did that amazingly well in LotR. So I expect he'll pull it off again. Should be wonderful.
WB posted 5 different endings of the trailer on the homepage.
My favorite by far is the Sting moment.
"Thorin is described as being very haughty, stern, and officious. He has a talent for singing and playing the harp, wears a gold chain, and has a very long beard. His appearance is also characterized by his distinctive sky blue hood. He refers to his homes in the Blue Mountains as "poor lodgings in exile." He is a capable and a cunning warrior, if not a particularly inspiring or clever leader. While shorter than elves or men, Thorin is said to be quite tall for a dwarf."
The other dwarves almost look like the "who rang that bell" guy from the Wizard of Oz.
Is it me, or do they have an almost Victorian Steampunkish vibe to their look?...
I wonder if perhaps this look is how Jackson, based on his extensive research, imagines how Tolkien's mind's eye might have envisioned them? Remember that Tolkien was writing the Hobbit in the 1930's. Maybe that explains the hair and clothing style?