I wouldn't recommend a jog for those who are perpetually offended and aggrieved since it must be exhausting to always be on the lookout for new ways to feel slighted and mistreated.
I wouldn't recommend a jog for those who are perpetually offended and aggrieved since it must be exhausting to always be on the lookout for new ways to feel slighted and mistreated.
Maybe a nice, long nap.
Yeah, God forbid they come across a "Coexist" bumper sticker out there or something. It's a dangerous and frightening world.
Are you attempting to equate feminism with Nazism? Or is your use of hyperbole simply in poor taste?
I don't think the point was to equate the two ideologies but rather to raise the question whether you would support a developer and product whose politics and may find problematic, especially if the creative output becomes, for lack of a better word, preachy. He should have chosen a better example instead of invoking Uncle Adolf - that's always a losing proposition.
Let me provide you another example, which I have brought up before. Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" novels. He employs various characters that are just thinly veiled vessels for spouting Randian Objectivism. In fact, the series is flush with often hamfisted symbolism to that extend. Now, I don't like the ideology of Objectivism and I don't like to be preached at and lectured and indoctrinated via entertainment media I consume as a means of escapism. So I stopped giving Goodkind my money and stopped reading the series.
I will probably do the same with regard to Beamdog, as I find Identity Politics to be toxic and I blame it for destroying the political left in the Anlgo-American world.
Are you attempting to equate feminism with Nazism? Or is your use of hyperbole simply in poor taste?
I don't think the point was to equate the two ideologies but rather to raise the question whether you would support a developer and product whose politics and may find problematic, especially if the creative output becomes, for lack of a better word, preachy. He should have chosen a better example instead of invoking Uncle Adolf - that's always a losing proposition.
Let me provide you another example, which I have brought up before. Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" novels. He employs various characters that are just thinly veiled vessels for spouting Randian Objectivism. In fact, the series is flush with often hamfisted symbolism to that extend. Now, I don't like the ideology of Objectivism and I don't like to be preached at and lectured and indoctrinated via entertainment media I consume as a means of escapism. So I stopped giving Goodkind my money and stopped reading the series.
I will probably do the same with regard to Beamdog, as I find Identity Politics to be toxic and I blame it for destroying the political left in the Anlgo-American world.
Are you attempting to equate feminism with Nazism? Or is your use of hyperbole simply in poor taste?
I don't think the point was to equate the two ideologies but rather to raise the question whether you would support a developer and product whose politics and may find problematic, especially if the creative output becomes, for lack of a better word, preachy. He should have chosen a better example instead of invoking Uncle Adolf - that's always a losing proposition.
Let me provide you another example, which I have brought up before. Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" novels. He employs various characters that are just thinly veiled vessels for spouting Randian Objectivism. In fact, the series is flush with often hamfisted symbolism to that extend. Now, I don't like the ideology of Objectivism and I don't like to be preached at and lectured and indoctrinated via entertainment media I consume as a means of escapism. So I stopped giving Goodkind my money and stopped reading the series.
I will probably do the same with regard to Beamdog, as I find Identity Politics to be toxic and I blame it for destroying the political left in the Anlgo-American world.
That's cool. It sounds like those books contained a lot more content that you disliked than the few lines of dialogue in SoD. Did you join or support a crusade against the Sword of Truth novels in order to bombard goodreads with bad reviews and deter future sales of the title?
I don't think the point was to equate the two ideologies but rather to raise the question whether you would support a developer and product whose politics and may find problematic, especially if the creative output becomes, for lack of a better word, preachy.
What I don't understand, though, is why this was phrased as if it were a contentious issue. No, people are probably not going to support developers whose politics and ideology they find distasteful. I find Orson Scott Card's views on homosexuality to be repulsive, and the fact that he tithes his earnings to NOM means I'm extra-careful not to throw a cent his way.
You know what I don't do, though? I don't go to his forum and spend an entire day screaming about how he's wrong for pushing his agenda in his books, and how I'm not going to buy what I wasn't buying anyway, and writing fake reviews on Goodreads to tank his books, and fighting with people who agree with him. Because that's trolling in its most futile and pathetic form: you're not going to change anyone's mind, you're not going to learn anything, you're not going to do any real damage, and you're not going to get any response that validates your own personal position because it is your own personal position.
You find the transgender character offensive? You find Beamdog's politics offensive? Don't buy the goddamn game. That's fine, no one's going to chastise you for that beyond pointing out that you might be missing out on a solid RPG. But that's your choice, and no one can take it away from you. Just don't expect to push your agenda on other people and be welcomed with open arms.
It would be nice if that's where all the negativities are directed to, to "stop giving money and stop reading the series" on a personal level. So we can say good riddance. But no, that's just not enough, yes? Let's raise arms and burn this company to the ground is the more apparent agenda here. Let's downvote all the positive reviews, not because we don't believe them to be true, but because there exists somewhere in the hundreds of thousands of lines a few lines that are controversial. And don't forget to leave your 0s and 1s! Who freakin cares about the overall game when there are few controversial lines??!! I'm so butthurt!
Question for the anti-GGers/pro-SJWs in this thread -
Would you buy a game from a company where one of the devs was an outspoken neo-nazi, even if the game itself was not nazi, save for a single charector who tells you that the holocaust was a lie, and a couple of easter eggs about Jews controlling world media, without any irony or context that would excuse said remarks?
This is simply as a thought experiment.
Horrible false equivalency. Ridiculous. A true equivalency would be a neutral reference to Trump, a Minsc Easter egg in support of Gamergate, or a mildly homophobic joke.
But to your point, no – I might not buy that game, just like nobody is forcing you to buy this one. What I wouldn't do is haunt the developer's forums and make it my mission to sink the franchise by bombing websites with wave after wave of negative reviews.
So other than choosing not to buy it yourself, you'd be fine with other people buying it? You'd make no effort to publicize the developers' extremist opinions or normalisation of said opinions in the game?
That's up to you of course. But surely you wouldn't judge others for pro-actively trying to draw attention to the fact?
Over a single Trump reference or pro-gamergate Easter egg? Or a transphobic joke? Pillars of Eternity had one of those and you guys were nowhere to be found. Where was your high minded anger over "agendas" then?
Although there was a backlash, nobody tried to *destroy* PoE. And if they HAD faced something this overblown, I would view the attackers as pathetic, thin skinned children. Just like the fragile, ever-offended gamerbros here who can't handle living in a world where they may be confronted with something that they don't like. I would never support this level of wounded victim mentality over such minor content. How can you?
The snide comments and outright rudeness prevent me from writing a proper reply. In fact the anti-GG crown on these forums are staggeringly ill-mannered (remember the locked thread with a meme image telling someone to 'learn to speak fucking English?'). Eventually the pro-GGers will leave and the forums will become even more of an SJW circle-jerk, and trust me when I say that is really not good for the BG franchise.
If you don't want to engage in an argument, then don't. But don't pretend to reply, then describe the people you're arguing with as " pathetic, thin skinned children... fragile, ever-offended gamerbros...wounded victim mentality".
Question for the anti-GGers/pro-SJWs in this thread -
Would you buy a game from a company where one of the devs was an outspoken neo-nazi, even if the game itself was not nazi, save for a single charector who tells you that the holocaust was a lie, and a couple of easter eggs about Jews controlling world media, without any irony or context that would excuse said remarks?
This is simply as a thought experiment.
Horrible false equivalency. Ridiculous. A true equivalency would be a neutral reference to Trump, a Minsc Easter egg in support of Gamergate, or a mildly homophobic joke.
But to your point, no – I might not buy that game, just like nobody is forcing you to buy this one. What I wouldn't do is haunt the developer's forums and make it my mission to sink the franchise by bombing websites with wave after wave of negative reviews.
So other than choosing not to buy it yourself, you'd be fine with other people buying it? You'd make no effort to publicize the developers' extremist opinions or normalisation of said opinions in the game?
That's up to you of course. But surely you wouldn't judge others for pro-actively trying to draw attention to the fact?
Over a single Trump reference or pro-gamergate Easter egg? Or a transphobic joke? Pillars of Eternity had one of those and you guys were nowhere to be found. Where was your high minded anger over "agendas" then?
Although there was a backlash, nobody tried to *destroy* PoE. And if they HAD faced something this overblown, I would view the attackers as pathetic, thin skinned children. Just like the fragile, ever-offended gamerbros here who can't handle living in a world where they may be confronted with something that they don't like. I would never support this level of wounded victim mentality over such minor content. How can you?
The snide comments and outright rudeness prevent me from writing a proper reply. In fact the anti-GG crown on these forums are staggeringly ill-mannered (remember the locked thread with a meme image telling someone to 'learn to speak fucking English?'). Eventually the pro-GGers will leave and the forums will become even more of an SJW circle-jerk, and trust me when I say that is really not good for the BG franchise.
If you don't want to engage in an argument, then don't. But don't pretend to reply, then describe the people you're arguing with as " pathetic, thin skinned children... fragile, ever-offended gamerbros...wounded victim mentality".
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
Giving a reply followed by a paragraph of snark is not a reply. The damage has already been done, I was merely trying to open your mind a bit.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
"Waah waaah, I don't like a couple of dialogues or NPCs therefore this game deserves 0/10, because I know shit about reviewing."
About the bugs, Bethesda has been making totally buggy games since TES II: Daggerfall.
I also love the hypocrisy. Imagine if it was a female character that turned into a man. Those idiots would barely notice the character. But that's idiotic insecurity for you.
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
Giving a reply followed by a paragraph of snark is not a reply. The damage has already been done, I was merely trying to open your mind a bit.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
Joey...... so much hyperbole.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
Giving a reply followed by a paragraph of snark is not a reply. The damage has already been done, I was merely trying to open your mind a bit.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
You still refuse to answer the question and you're hiding behind my snark as a means to avoid the issue.
What you see as extremism others see as an innocent shout out. The difference is that your side has mobilized in a transparent attempt to sink the reviews of this game. That goes beyond boycotting, that's trying to punish a developer for including a reference you disagree with. You don't get to demand to live in a world where you are never faced with things you don't like.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
Giving a reply followed by a paragraph of snark is not a reply. The damage has already been done, I was merely trying to open your mind a bit.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
You still refuse to answer the question and you're hiding behind my snark as a means to avoid the issue.
What you see as extremism others see as an innocent shout out. The difference is that your side has mobilized in a transparent attempt to sink the reviews of this game. That goes beyond boycotting, that's trying to punish a developer for including a reference you disagree with. You don't get to demand to live in a world where you are never faced with things you don't like.
No, but people have the right to be pissed at a very old series that is close to their hearts suddenly being injected with extremist politics, regardless of how subtle it may seem. Nobody really cares what the devs do - if they did, these boards will be flooded. The real effort is making sure people know what is happening so that nobody wastes their hard-earned money on buying the product.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
For people that love to accuse others of extremism, can't you see that you're the exact same thing on the opposite side of the fence?
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
For people that love to accuse others of extremism, can't you see that you're the exact same thing on the opposite side of the fence?
Okay you've jumped the shark now. "Hah you accuse us of x, actually you are x!". This is why I stopped posting on forums to begin with.
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
Giving a reply followed by a paragraph of snark is not a reply. The damage has already been done, I was merely trying to open your mind a bit.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
You still refuse to answer the question and you're hiding behind my snark as a means to avoid the issue.
What you see as extremism others see as an innocent shout out. The difference is that your side has mobilized in a transparent attempt to sink the reviews of this game. That goes beyond boycotting, that's trying to punish a developer for including a reference you disagree with. You don't get to demand to live in a world where you are never faced with things you don't like.
No, but people have the right to be pissed at a very old series that is close to their hearts suddenly being injected with extremist politics, regardless of how subtle it may seem. Nobody really cares what the devs do - if they did, these boards will be flooded. The real effort is making sure people know what is happening so that nobody wastes their hard-earned money on buying the product.
I'm sorry, have I missed something? Has the original, pre-EE Baldur's gate ceased to exist? Are you unable to purchase that game and are now forced to play this one?
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
For people that love to accuse others of extremism, can't you see that you're the exact same thing on the opposite side of the fence?
Okay you've jumped the shark now. "Hah you accuse us of x, actually you are x!". This is why I stopped posting on forums to begin with.
That's weird, it doesn't SEEM like you've stopped posting on forums.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
For people that love to accuse others of extremism, can't you see that you're the exact same thing on the opposite side of the fence?
Okay you've jumped the shark now. "Hah you accuse us of x, actually you are x!". This is why I stopped posting on forums to begin with.
Think the shark was jumped when a certain group decided to mob the forums and reviews en mass with their, dare I say it...agenda?
Guys I just received a secret communiqué from Beamdog manangement (now referred to as womanagement) and they are indeed making Baldur's Gate 3. It's about Shar-Teel and her quest to murder every man in the realms.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer. 2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on. 3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics 4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
There are currently about a dozen threads on KIA about this (it's already being called Baldur's Gate-Gate), the top one has 1500 upvotes. Already a couple of the more popular streamers have been notified, BG has a place in the heart of many of the popular and influential voices in gaming, and they *will* be pissed. This hasn't even started yet.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
Maybe you could explain how LGBT or transgender issues are "extremist contemporary politics". I mean yes, if by contemporary you mean it's no longer 1954 and "Leave it to Beaver" is no longer the entertainment standard. "Social Justice Warrior", "the regressive left", "Anita Sarkeesian". Are there honestly people who care about this nonsense??
At the end of the day, no matter what the people upset about this SAY is their reason, it's a mask for the real ones. They're pissed a woman whose politics they don't like had a big role in "ruining" one of their beloved game franchises. And they're grossed out by trans people. You can go around pretending that isn't the case, but you're only fooling yourself....
Everything can still calm down if developers reach out to non-liberal part of their fanbase. If they continue to act as self-righteous crusaders on holy quest for global liberalism it can only get worse. Time to decide whos more valuable to them - right-wing BG fans or liberal intelligentsia who doesnt play games.
Everything can still calm down if developers reach out to non-liberal part of their fanbase. If they continue to act as self-righteous crusaders on holy quest for global liberalism it can only get worse. Time to decide whos more valuable to them - right-wing BG fans or liberal intelligentsia who doesnt play games.
...or just leave the politics out of gaming altogether, that'd work.
Everything can still calm down if developers reach out to non-liberal part of their fanbase. If they continue to act as self-righteous crusaders on holy quest for global liberalism it can only get worse. Time to decide whos more valuable to them - right-wing BG fans or liberal intelligentsia who doesnt play games.
If the inclusion of a merchant who is transgender in a 30 hour niche market game counts as a "holy quest for global liberalism" then I have to say as a liberal that we are in real trouble, and we better do a better job.
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Maybe a nice, long nap.
Let me provide you another example, which I have brought up before. Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" novels. He employs various characters that are just thinly veiled vessels for spouting Randian Objectivism. In fact, the series is flush with often hamfisted symbolism to that extend. Now, I don't like the ideology of Objectivism and I don't like to be preached at and lectured and indoctrinated via entertainment media I consume as a means of escapism. So I stopped giving Goodkind my money and stopped reading the series.
I will probably do the same with regard to Beamdog, as I find Identity Politics to be toxic and I blame it for destroying the political left in the Anlgo-American world.
You know what I don't do, though? I don't go to his forum and spend an entire day screaming about how he's wrong for pushing his agenda in his books, and how I'm not going to buy what I wasn't buying anyway, and writing fake reviews on Goodreads to tank his books, and fighting with people who agree with him. Because that's trolling in its most futile and pathetic form: you're not going to change anyone's mind, you're not going to learn anything, you're not going to do any real damage, and you're not going to get any response that validates your own personal position because it is your own personal position.
You find the transgender character offensive? You find Beamdog's politics offensive? Don't buy the goddamn game. That's fine, no one's going to chastise you for that beyond pointing out that you might be missing out on a solid RPG. But that's your choice, and no one can take it away from you. Just don't expect to push your agenda on other people and be welcomed with open arms.
If you don't want to engage in an argument, then don't. But don't pretend to reply, then describe the people you're arguing with as " pathetic, thin skinned children... fragile, ever-offended gamerbros...wounded victim mentality".
You asked me what I would do were the situation reversed, and I told you. I would never condone trying to destroy a release because of one or two lines of dialogue I didn't agree with because I am confident enough in my beliefs to not be threatened when I encounter something that runs contrary to them. I asked how you can support the - I think objectively at this point - overblown attempt to sink this game. You declined to answer.
The irony of this is that *you guys have overblown it*. By reacting so harshly to criticism, you - and the devs - have cemented Beamdog's reputation as an SJW developer, pretty much doomed to bad PR from this point on. They've taken a childhood memory and smeared their own extremist contemporary politics onto it, then reacted to criticism of it by doubling down on the politics. All of this could have been avoided.
"Waah waaah, I don't like a couple of dialogues or NPCs therefore this game deserves 0/10, because I know shit about reviewing."
About the bugs, Bethesda has been making totally buggy games since TES II: Daggerfall.
I also love the hypocrisy. Imagine if it was a female character that turned into a man.
Those idiots would barely notice the character. But that's idiotic insecurity for you.
1. Beamdog now has a reputation as an 'SJW' developer.
2. Beamdog is doomed to bad PR from now on.
3. Beamdog believe in extremist contemporary politics
4. Beamdog have smeared these extremist contemporary politics on the BG series.
These are your opinions, and simply stating them doesn't automatically make them right.
I have an idea....
Play the game. Enjoy it. Tell people about it. Play it some more. Don't enjoy it. Tell people why. Don't play it again.
What you see as extremism others see as an innocent shout out. The difference is that your side has mobilized in a transparent attempt to sink the reviews of this game. That goes beyond boycotting, that's trying to punish a developer for including a reference you disagree with. You don't get to demand to live in a world where you are never faced with things you don't like.
And I see devs have now taken to twitter to cry about the mess they've made for themselves and insult people who disagree with them! So it'll all die down soon, right?
At the end of the day, no matter what the people upset about this SAY is their reason, it's a mask for the real ones. They're pissed a woman whose politics they don't like had a big role in "ruining" one of their beloved game franchises. And they're grossed out by trans people. You can go around pretending that isn't the case, but you're only fooling yourself....