Kind of a big plot hole
Rawgrim
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Viconia. Her being in SoD is a plot hole by itself. And her romance\friendship development with the player too.
1. When she meets you in BG2 she barely recognizes the player.
2. Romancing her takes time and there are zero hints of any prior friendship. Quite the opposite in fact.
3. She tells you what she has been doing since last you met her near Beregost.
Viconia needs some serious rewriting in BG2 or the whole thing will be a rather big mess. She shouldn't have been near this expansion pack due to her story. Ripple effects, and all that. She is a walking contradiction now.
1. When she meets you in BG2 she barely recognizes the player.
2. Romancing her takes time and there are zero hints of any prior friendship. Quite the opposite in fact.
3. She tells you what she has been doing since last you met her near Beregost.
Viconia needs some serious rewriting in BG2 or the whole thing will be a rather big mess. She shouldn't have been near this expansion pack due to her story. Ripple effects, and all that. She is a walking contradiction now.
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I prefer the way they did it in Throne of Bhaal. They also have very entertaining entrance lines
The books are heretical, though. Bigtime.
The could mean either brooding alone in the shadows or it could mean purchasing land outside beregost with disastrous results.
Bg1 and 2 happens during the same year, add SoD to the mix and she really doesn't have time to do anything but hang around with the PC. It takes time to get to Amn as well. So since she doesn't seem to really know the PC much at all in BG2, it just doesn't add up. If she had a bonding friendship thing going on in SoD, she certainly gives zero indication of this during the second game. The whole start of the romance is more or less a "getting to know you" kind of thing.
Also she has plenty of time to do things as between the prologue crypt and the ducal palace I believe a good number of days pass. Also there is plenty more time for things to happen.
Also the BG2 romance is a continual struggle of Viconia letting down her guard. Her SoD friendship backs this up nicely. Viconia has ( with good reason) serious trust issues. Her unwillingness tonshare doesnt stem from lack of time together but because sharing personal issues is a) not in her nature b) makes her feel vulnerable and invites betrayal.
Its noticeable the first thing she does after opening up is apologize to you for it.
This isn't something new, it isn't something special, and it's only an issue if you decide to make it one.
There is still nothing in her conversation options to indicate you have ever been friends or have bonded. You can try hard to twist her words to fit some headcanon, but that is all it is. Headcanon. The only ones that should have been involved here, to avoid holes, are the ones trapped with you in Irenicus dungeon, and characters not remotely tied to the BG2 plot.
Viconia needs a lot of added\changed lines to tie well into BG2 now.
The only way in which this flys is that Baldurs gate characters post BG1 are written in either one or two ways: 1. Arent you dead/who are you? 2. You traveled with them.
Its telling in BG2 you only get the second option with Viconia. You dont get to ask her who she is or why she isnt dead. You can either accept her into your party as the friend she has been or tell her to go away. Assuming you saved her that is.
Her BG2 appearance needs no more additions than any other none irenicus dungeon party member does.
She tells the player she LIVED ona farm for awhile. Given that this has to happen in a week (at the most) between BG1 and SoD it just doesn't fit. It is a few days walk just to get to Beregost. She just rushed down there to live on a farm for 2-3 days, killed the farmers and rushed back? That isn't even living there. It is visiting.