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  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448

    That Neera portrait is awesome, but I honestly didn't like the new eye you gave her. I think the original one would make it perfect.

    It's quite far from her big, rounder eyes in the original portrait though.

  • GemHoundGemHound Member Posts: 801
    edited November 2013
    @Astafas I don't know, I like Neera's portrait, and that eye for the one that was made on the last page needs to be rotated in such a way that it actually aligns with the face. I'm not complaining, the rest of it is really good. Just the eye is making me... not like it as much.
  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    GemHound said:

    @Astafas I don't know, I like Neera's portrait, and that eye for the one that was made on the last page needs to be rotated in such a way that it actually aligns with the face. I'm not complaining, the rest of it is really good. Just the eye is making me... not like it as much.

    What can I say, I like my (half)-elves with eyes like that. :-D Have a look at Jaheira for an example:


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  • GemHoundGemHound Member Posts: 801
    edited November 2013
    @astafas Jaheira's seem natural, and fit her face, the eye in your Neera portrait for me at least does not. To each his own though.
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  • vierraevierrae Member Posts: 103
    Astafas said:

    I was a bit surprised by the lack of enthusiasm on this thread for my new Tiefling - he took me for ever to make and I hold him as my best work yet (thanks to @Meepitchi for your like though!).

    Don't be so hard on us! I like your tiefling, but the two beard thingies at the bottom somewhat confuse me. But the armor is awesome, as is your choice with colours.
    And thanks for Neera portrait, at last someone heard my pleas :)
  • HeindrichHeindrich Member, Moderator Posts: 2,959
    @Isandir

    I really like how the armour looks in the new version, but I gotta admit, though I understand that you are trying to make all the portraits look for uniform, I kinda prefer the older skin tone. For some reason the eyes look less natural with a darker skin tone, or maybe it's just me...
  • IsandirIsandir Member Posts: 458
    @Heindrich1988: That's exactly what I thought as well: I rather liked how her pale skin contrasted to her eyes. Unfortunately, it just didn't look right with the other new versions and didn't match the default BG portraits very well. C'est la vie...
  • GreenpaktoGreenpakto Member Posts: 80
    @Isandir: I didnt know you had a website, would you mind posting it? :)
  • So_LoWSo_LoW Member Posts: 62
    @Astafas

    Wow, looks amazing :O but this eyes makes her look like an alien <.< Beside that it's perfect, thx!

  • GreenpaktoGreenpakto Member Posts: 80
    edited November 2013

    @Isandir

    I really like how the armour looks in the new version, but I gotta admit, though I understand that you are trying to make all the portraits look for uniform, I kinda prefer the older skin tone. For some reason the eyes look less natural with a darker skin tone, or maybe it's just me...

    I disagree about the skin tone. The change he made was definately for the better. HUGE improvement in my eyes. It seems closer to BG portraits as well, in terms of "colouring" and contrast. Espacially the shadowing for example, because of that "dark" skin, it makes better/realistic shadowing. The portraits are now maintaining that feel of "realism" while still its clearly NOT JUST a photo (exactly as bg portraits).
    As far as the eyes, yes they do "pop" out more, but I dont feel that it has to be a bad thing. I have a sister that has ridiculously blue eyes, and at times, it almost look like shes using "coloured contact lenses". I think you just have a hard time grasping the intense bright "purple" colour choice for the eyes, since its not a "natural" colour. But hey BG is fantasy in the end ;)

    EDIT: IMO, the former portraits are less detailed. The new portraits are more detailed.
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    @Astafas Your Neera portrait is indeed beautiful. But it's also true that there are certain points, which could be significantly improved with a retouch.

    I agree with you that the angle of the almond-shaped eye is perfect for an half-elf. It's just that its brightness makes the eyeball appear unnaturally large for this kind of head size. That's easily fixed with some shadows though.
    Personally, I'm not fond of the background at all due to the cyberpunk vibe I get from it. But that's purely a matter of taste and nothing more.
    However, the pose you've chosen for her looks very painful to behold. It would take a flexible body indeed to overtwist the neck in such a manner. Truly, I tried this pose a couple of minutes ago and now suffer from muscle aches all around the neck region. X(
    Last but not least, the overall impression of being a wild mage would vastly improve if she was holding a staff in her hands. Although, placing said staff plus hands in a anatomic correct manner to this kind of pose is quite difficult to pull off, if not impossible.

    I've modified your portrait as an example to outline what I just wrote above. The segue between hair and background leaves to be desired, I know. And the placement of her hands could also be done a lot better. But I hope you still catch my drift.
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  • FoggyFoggy Member Posts: 297

    @Isandir: I didnt know you had a website, would you mind posting it? :)

    Isandir site http://isandir.com/
    When looking at Jenna and Morik side by side, the new details in Jenna's portrait makes much more sense. Simply beautiful. The old portraits were good, but had that photo-realistic look, now they are perfect for either BG or BG2.
  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    vierrae said:

    Astafas said:

    I was a bit surprised by the lack of enthusiasm on this thread for my new Tiefling - he took me for ever to make and I hold him as my best work yet (thanks to @Meepitchi for your like though!).

    Don't be so hard on us! I like your tiefling, but the two beard thingies at the bottom somewhat confuse me. But the armor is awesome, as is your choice with colours.
    And thanks for Neera portrait, at last someone heard my pleas :)
    I'm only joking with you. To each his/her own, of course. the two beard "thingies" (great name, I have no better!) was a last minute inovation I came up with, and that my wife liked. The goal was to make him look more alien/planetouched. I would not - I think - ever go to work like that. :-D
  • GreenpaktoGreenpakto Member Posts: 80
    Foggy said:

    @Isandir: I didnt know you had a website, would you mind posting it? :)

    Isandir site http://isandir.com/
    When looking at Jenna and Morik side by side, the new details in Jenna's portrait makes much more sense. Simply beautiful. The old portraits were good, but had that photo-realistic look, now they are perfect for either BG or BG2.
    Thank you for that link. There are a few portraits there that I would really like to see updated. Some of them are really good!
  • DeltaslayerDeltaslayer Member Posts: 49
    edited December 2013
    Haha! Now you perfected her! This is even better than her original, imo.
  • vierraevierrae Member Posts: 103
    @Deltaslayer this is *so* much better than the original, which is plain ugly, in my opinion.
    @Astafas you've done a great job here!
  • KostoglodKostoglod Member Posts: 10
    Absolutely beautiful! Great job!!!
  • SharGuidesMyHandSharGuidesMyHand Member Posts: 2,583
    If anyone is looking to Baldurize another pic (and also create another character with more ethnic variety), perhaps someone might try their hand on this pic of Sam Tjhia?

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  • wht111wht111 Member Posts: 24
    Wow. That new Neera portrait is absolutely amazing, you did a great job guys. But one thing i don't like is this lightning background, everything else is close to perfection. KUDOS :)
  • WanderonWanderon Member Posts: 1,418
    Is there somewhere to download portraits for use? Original post has a link that just leads to a page saying I don't have permission for this?
  • j3cwillj3cwill Member Posts: 51
    Go back a couple of pages. Someone posted a direct link to the dropbox instead of through the original thread.
  • MeepichiMeepichi Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2013
    Astafas said:

    @Kamigoroshi

    As for the angle itself, I always change it around ten degrees for half-elves:

    I went back and edited the eye angle a bit on my Aerie replacement pic and it does look a bit more elven, even if it takes away a bit from the original actress I modeled her off of(Liu Yifei).

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    I'm currently trying to figure out how to manage shading and color to be more like Isandir and some of the other top notch Baldurized pics, but so far I suck at it. If the shading isn't already there I just can't seem to be able to imagine it properly. :(

    So, until I can manage to figure out some of those things I'll hold off posting anything new... well... I guess I'll post the current one I'm working on. My thief based off of Kudo Haruka.
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  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    wht111 said:

    Wow. That new Neera portrait is absolutely amazing, you did a great job guys. But one thing i don't like is this lightning background, everything else is close to perfection. KUDOS :)

    Thank you. What would you like for background then? I might make a special just for you, if you ask nicely. ;-)
  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    Meepichi said:

    Astafas said:

    @Kamigoroshi

    As for the angle itself, I always change it around ten degrees for half-elves:

    I went back and edited the eye angle a bit on my Aerie replacement pic and it does look a bit more elven, even if it takes away a bit from the original actress I modeled her off of(Liu Yifei).

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    I'm currently trying to figure out how to manage shading and color to be more like Isandir and some of the other top notch Baldurized pics, but so far I suck at it. If the shading isn't already there I just can't seem to be able to imagine it properly. :(

    So, until I can manage to figure out some of those things I'll hold off posting anything new... well... I guess I'll post the current one I'm working on. My thief based off of Kudo Haruka.
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    I often enlarge the eyes too, especially if I go for totally Elven as in Aeire's case. Try approx 120 percent, and move the eyes a bit inward (towards the nose) if necessary. I recommend you select not only the eye itself but also a the nearest area, and use a lasso with 3-5 pixels of fuzz. Then enlarge, change angle and (if necessary) move. Clone any skin that needs blending. Done!
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