Characters you think don't match their alignment.
JumboWheat01
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Going through my second full playthrough of Baldur's Gate, I'm starting to notice certain things about characters that don't quite fit their character sheet. Like Jaheira, for instance. She strikes me very strongly of at least Neutral Good. I swear the only reason she's listed as True Neutral is because it's hardcoded into the game that Druids must be of a True Neutral alignment, as per 2nd Edition.
Garrick also doesn't strike me as particularly chaotic either. He definitely seems more True Neutral to me than Jaheira does.
Who are the characters you feel don't quite match the alignment listed on their character sheet?
Garrick also doesn't strike me as particularly chaotic either. He definitely seems more True Neutral to me than Jaheira does.
Who are the characters you feel don't quite match the alignment listed on their character sheet?
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(And yes, I know she is True Neutral due to 2nd Edition Rules, but I do not care).
Korgan: Chaotic Neutral
He puts on a tough front and in public revels in bloodshed. But if you bring Mazzy you find that he has a very dark past that he is unsuccessfully trying to deal with. Noteworthy...
(1) His clan had a blood feud with another dwarven clan over some tunnels. His father and mother were killed. He had to be cut out of her because she was murdered while still pregnant.
(2) In his own words, he had to hold too many dying comrades.
(3) His battlerager nature comes from his decision that it is best to roar into the darkness.
He also shows morals. He gladly kills the slavers because he finds selling children to be wrong.
With Mazzy to guide him, he promises her that he will try to target his anger towards deserving targets.
His epilogue becomes very chaotic neutral in that regard. Sure, he murders the head of a dwarven clan. That is certainly evil...but why does he do it? To turn the clan's anger on the drow. He leads a crusade against them, fighting at the forefront and doing some serious damage.
He comes across (to me at least) as a deeply disturbed individual with horrible PTSD, who deals with it by charging into his fears head on. He finally decides to turn all of his pent up anger, frustration and pain onto the drow.
Did he do the right thing? Hell no. Was he chaotic evil? I don't think so...well, at least with Mazzy there.
Conclusion: Chaotic Evil can work for Korgan. But I really think that Mazzy should have turned him Chaotic Neutral.
And you all know that would have been awesome. Because Korgan and Keldorn get along really well. So a Chaotic Neutral Korgan could have fit into good parties at that point without reputation management.
Basically that is how i view the cases where she will threaten to leave the party (or the extremely rare case she will attack you). It's not because these are evil actions in and of itself. It's because she views them as being indicative of you taking the path of becoming the next Lord of Murder (which clearly is not what she wants for you).
http://easydamus.com/trueneutral.html
http://easydamus.com/neutralgood.html
If a person sees a group of farmers being attacked by other group of people, what would the person do according to their alignment? I see it this way: evil character wouldn't help if there wasn't any gain to themselves (money, fame, etc.) and the risk of death was low. Neutral would help if the risk of death to themselves (or friends) wasn't too high or the farmers would be the neutral person's good friends. Good person would help either way: no matter how high the risk of death (within reason ofc, no suicides) and even if the good person didn't know the farmers.
In Jaheira's case, I can see her saying that farmers were "destroying the nature" or it wasn't worth getting involved (two equal groups fighting) or anything like that, and not help them. Of course I can also see her going to their help, but that's neutral, measuring the situation and sometimes helping and sometimes not. I am starting to ramble
I think that has much more to do with her having traveled with you so long and her sense of obligation toward Gorion. I think she and Imoen both have a higher tolerance for your... "activities"... than other characters that is born out of a sense of loyalty as opposed to moral indifference.
Edwin should be neutral evil, he works for maevar in the thieves guild then betrays them later. Steals the nether scroll, etc
I've raised this issue a few times in the past, and even started my own thread on the subject here: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/38925/npc-alignments-that-you-disagree-with/p1
In a nutshell, here's a list of what I think certain NPCs' alignments should be (actual alignments are in parentheses for reference):
Jaheira (TN) - NG
Garrick (CN) - NG
Coran (CG) - CN
Alora (CG) - CN
Minsc (NG in BG1) - CN
Safana (CN) - NE
Viconia (NE) - CN
Branwen (TN) - NG
For anyone who may be interested in my reasoning, click on the link to the other thread.
In this case, I think:
Jaheira-True Neutral (strong good tendencies)
Korgan-Chaotic Evil (weak neutral tendencies)
Neera in bg2 soa-Chaotic Neutral (some good tendencies)