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Shapeshifting.. What the ****

RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
in Troubleshooting
Since when did shapeshifting ability create token-like weapons, whose names and descriptions are completely out of order?







And since when did Earth elemental shape-shifting deal slashing damage and not crushing damage?




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  • PteranPteran Member Posts: 388
    I feel like your install got borked by mods. Install anything new recently? What do you have installed?
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    You have SCS installed. Specifically, the component that improves shapeshifting. The descriptions are screwed up because something's wrong with your install; your dialog.tlk file has some incorrect strings.

    A reinstall might be able to sort them out, in which case the item descriptions would explain the stats that each shapeshifting token gives you.
  • RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
    edited November 2016
    I keep telling others to read the readme when I don't do so myself. Kinda figured.

    My second question, should it really use slashing damage?
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Yup. Don't know why, but it does.
  • RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
    Pteran said:

    The earth elemental is made of very sharp rocks ;)

    Still, makes more sense if he would just use his weight rather than fighting like Drizzt.
  • KuronaKurona Member Posts: 881
    This component was a workaround to an issue in the original game with the forms' natural weapons being dispelled. It's not necessary in the EE.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    It was also done to make shapeshifting more convenient, because switching to another form counted as a spell and therefore slowed down your spellcasting, making Shapeshifters in particular much less flexible.

    It was also a major buff to enemy druids, who aren't much of a challenge without SCS.
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    edited November 2016
    RelSundan said:

    I keep telling others to read the readme when I don't do so myself. Kinda figured.

    My second question, should it really use slashing damage?

    WHAT?!?!?!?!?!!!! It does SLASHING damage?! CLEARLY a bug. It should REALLY do ELECTRICAL damage! :trollface:
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Tresset said:

    RelSundan said:

    I keep telling others to read the readme when I don't do so myself. Kinda figured.

    My second question, should it really use slashing damage?

    WHAT?!?!?!?!?!!!! It does SLASHING damage?! CLEARLY a bug. It should REALLY do ELECTRICAL damage! :trollface:
    That could make sense.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity
  • RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
    Tresset said:

    RelSundan said:

    I keep telling others to read the readme when I don't do so myself. Kinda figured.

    My second question, should it really use slashing damage?

    WHAT?!?!?!?!?!!!! It does SLASHING damage?! CLEARLY a bug. It should REALLY do ELECTRICAL damage! :trollface:
    As much as I appreciate irony and sarcasm, I feel very strong vibes of "What an idiot, lol!!" coming from that post. Not sure I like it.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I'm fairly certain @Tresset was just being silly. The slashing damage is probably an oversight.
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    edited November 2016
    @RelSundan Yeah, I am indeed just being silly. I, too, find it odd that the elemental does slashing. Sorry if I gave a different impression, that was certainly not my intent.
  • RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
    Tresset said:

    @RelSundan Yeah, I am indeed just being silly. I, too, find it odd that the elemental does slashing. Sorry if I gave a different impression, that was certainly not my intent.

    Aye, I thought you meant it like it was obvious that it should be slashing damage. No worries! :smile:
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,268
    The slashing damage looks to be an issue with the mod. In an unmodded game the elemental does indeed do crushing damage.
  • RelSundanRelSundan Member Posts: 918
    edited November 2016
    Strange.. I don't see why SCS would change that? I believe crushing damage would be sweeter. 20-40 damage per hit on a decent Thac0 is not so promising for a HLA. The neat thing with HLA EE is that it has 100% resistance to all melee damages.

  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I think it's supposed to be 50%. The description says as much, if you have the correct strings for it.
  • DragonKingDragonKing Member Posts: 1,979
    Pteran said:

    The earth elemental is made of very sharp rocks ;)

    @Pteran
    Than...shouldn't that be impaling damage?
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