Verification on melee reach weapons

billbisco

Please verify this for me. The melee reach weapons (you can attack in melee one circle farther away) are Staff, Spear, Halberd, and Two Handed Sword?

SirBatince

monk fists aswell

Contemplative_Hamster

"Ah do mah fightin' with a fist on a stick"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJQEl5vcAo

Grond0

I think there's more variation than just reach 1 or reach 2. A 2-handed sword will outreach a monk for instance, while if you try and use a dagger you really do have to get up close and personal with an enemy .

elminster

Dagger = 0 range
Most other single handed melee weapons = 1 range
Two-handed melee weapons (and monk fists) = 2 range

There are further exceptions (like the staff mace has 2). But the above generally should be the case.

Raduziel

Why is this information relevant?

An honest question.

dunbar

So that (amongst other things I'm sure) a lightly armoured person with a long reach weapon can attack from 'behind' a tank who's engaged with a short reach weapon, thus avoiding taking any damage.

lolien

Raduziel said:

Why is this information relevant?

An honest question.

You can kill stucked big creatures without fear, if you position well a character with long reach. Adamantine golems, Otyughs have 1 range, so you can chomp them with a longsword or stab them with a long stick through a narrow doorway. As @dunbar said, there are other possible uses as well.

semiticgoddess

Large critters no long suffer from that problem in EE. Otyughs have increased range and Iron Golems have a smaller circle, allowing them to fit in smaller spaces.

I think it's actually a subversion of developer intent: every single Iron and Adamantite Golem in all of BG2, from the De'Arnise Hold to Suldannessellar, is right next to a choke point they originally could not get past. It was clear that attacking from a safe distance was very much intended.

billbisco

I'm considering a custom party with all reach melee weapons and wanted to be sure of the options available. I wonder if it would ease combat if all reach was used.

Raduziel

Living and learning.

Thanks, guys.

Aerakar

I have been playing a lot more with quarterstaffs in recent times. The reach helps avoid most touch attacks and kiting is much, much easier. If you time it right you can avoid all damage and still take down your foes, assuming they do not have long reach weapons as well.

lolien

semiticgod said:

Large critters no long suffer from that problem in EE. Otyughs have increased range and Iron Golems have a smaller circle, allowing them to fit in smaller spaces.

I think it's actually a subversion of developer intent: every single Iron and Adamantite Golem in all of BG2, from the De'Arnise Hold to Suldannessellar, is right next to a choke point they originally could not get past. It was clear that attacking from a safe distance was very much intended.

So now i have to use the more realistic "an invisible member stay in the door, while we hit the golem" trick? Nice!