Problem with BG:EE kit mod (and two smaller issues)
semiticgoddess
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First, the minor issues:
1. I just did a clean install of BG:EE to fix a problem that prevented the game from launching. I can start up the game now, but I see leftovers from some custom kit mods that I already uninstalled before the clean install.
The invalid reference is the Shaman kit. To fix the Shaman strings, I think I just need a clean dialog.tlk file. But since this is a clean install with no mods, I'm not sure how to fix it.
2. I've gone through all of the relevant .2da files to delete all references to custom kits I was using, since I thought that was what was causing the extra classes with wrong strings, but that didn't change anything. I'm not sure how to get rid of the extra classes.
The main problem:
I can't properly install a kit mod for mages on BG:EE. It works fine in BG2:EE, installation and everything. But when I try to install it in BG:EE, all it seems to do is screw up the Wild Mage kit's strings. The new kit, the Alchemist kit, appears in the KITLIST.2da and other tables, and all the other files are in place, and some of the kit's custom strings appear correctly (potions but not grenades), but when I go to character creation, all I see is some wrong strings where the Wild Mage kit should be, and selecting it gives the Wild Mage kit instead of the Alchemist kit.
Does installing kits on BG:EE require any different steps from installing kits on BG2:EE?
1. I just did a clean install of BG:EE to fix a problem that prevented the game from launching. I can start up the game now, but I see leftovers from some custom kit mods that I already uninstalled before the clean install.
The invalid reference is the Shaman kit. To fix the Shaman strings, I think I just need a clean dialog.tlk file. But since this is a clean install with no mods, I'm not sure how to fix it.
2. I've gone through all of the relevant .2da files to delete all references to custom kits I was using, since I thought that was what was causing the extra classes with wrong strings, but that didn't change anything. I'm not sure how to get rid of the extra classes.
The main problem:
I can't properly install a kit mod for mages on BG:EE. It works fine in BG2:EE, installation and everything. But when I try to install it in BG:EE, all it seems to do is screw up the Wild Mage kit's strings. The new kit, the Alchemist kit, appears in the KITLIST.2da and other tables, and all the other files are in place, and some of the kit's custom strings appear correctly (potions but not grenades), but when I go to character creation, all I see is some wrong strings where the Wild Mage kit should be, and selecting it gives the Wild Mage kit instead of the Alchemist kit.
Does installing kits on BG:EE require any different steps from installing kits on BG2:EE?
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In BG2EE, string 45856 is "Sorcerer"
In SoD, string 45856 is "Say your farewells and be quick about it. I would be about our business sooner than later."
In BG2EE, string 45858 is "Monk"
In SoD, string 45856 is "I'll help you find peace. You have my word on that."
In BG2EE, string 103061 is "Shaman"
In SoD, string 103061 doesn't exist.
I don't know how those BG2EE string reference got into either your BG:EE or SoD dialog.tlk, but that's what they are. Mod's certainly shouldn't be doing that, I would have an easier time believing you got the wrong file in the download.
Any idea how I could get my dialog.tlk file back in order? If a clean install from Steam won't do it, is there another method?
Dialog.tlkClastext.2da you got from Steam when you did the clean install.Edit, wrong file
2DA V1.0 -1 CLASSID KITID LOWER DESCSTR MIXED BIOGRAPHY FALLEN BRIEFDESC FIGHTER 2 16384 7201 9556 1076 15881 0 31252 BERSERKER 2 1 24239 24284 24261 15881 0 31252 WIZARD_SLAYER 2 2 24240 24285 24262 15881 0 31252 KENSAI 2 3 24241 24286 24263 15881 0 31252 DWARVEN_DEFENDER 2 34 31973 31975 31974 15881 0 31252 RANGER 12 16384 7200 9557 1077 15888 0 31257 FERALAN 12 7 24245 24298 24267 15888 0 31257 STALKER 12 8 24246 24299 24268 15888 0 31257 BEAST_MASTER 12 9 24247 24300 24269 15888 0 31257 FALLEN_RANGER 12 16384 10365 9557 10369 15888 1 31257 FALLEN_FERALAN 12 7 24213 24298 24214 15888 1 31257 FALLEN_STALKER 12 8 24215 24299 24216 15888 1 31257 FALLEN_BEAST_MASTER 12 9 24217 24300 24218 15888 1 31257 PALADIN 6 16384 7217 9558 1078 15887 0 31256 CAVALIER 6 4 24242 24287 24264 15887 0 31256 INQUISITOR 6 5 24243 24288 24265 15887 0 31256 UNDEAD_HUNTER 6 6 24244 24289 24266 15887 0 31256 BLACKGUARD 6 32 28604 28606 28605 31492 0 31256 FALLEN_PALADIN 6 16384 10367 9558 10371 15887 1 31256 FALLEN_CAVALIER 6 4 24207 24287 24208 15887 1 31256 FALLEN_INQUISITOR 6 5 24209 24288 24210 15887 1 31256 FALLEN_UNDEAD_HUNTER 6 6 24211 24289 24212 15887 1 31256 CLERIC 3 16384 7204 24230 1079 15884 0 31255 GODTALOS 3 19 24254 24307 24276 15884 0 31255 GODHELM 3 20 24255 24308 24277 15884 0 31255 GODLATHANDER 3 21 24256 24309 24278 15884 0 31255 FALLEN_CLERIC 3 16384 -1 24230 24205 15884 1 31255 FALLEN_GODLATHANDER 3 21 -1 24309 24206 15884 1 31255 DRUID 11 16384 7210 9560 1080 15885 0 32301 TOTEMIC_DRUID 11 16 24257 24310 24279 15885 0 32301 SHAPESHIFTER 11 17 24258 24311 24280 15885 0 32301 AVENGER 11 18 24259 24312 24281 15885 0 32301 MAGE 1 16384 7203 9563 1081 15882 0 31253 ABJURER 1 64 597 24290 502 15882 0 31253 CONJURER 1 128 2179 24291 504 15882 0 31253 DIVINER 1 256 2846 24292 2012 15882 0 31253 ENCHANTER 1 512 2861 24293 2022 15882 0 31253 ILLUSIONIST 1 1024 2862 24294 12785 15882 0 31253 INVOKER 1 2048 3015 24295 12786 15882 0 31253 NECROMANCER 1 4096 12744 24296 12787 15882 0 31253 TRANSMUTER 1 8192 12745 24297 12788 15882 0 31253 WILD_MAGE 1 2147483648 24260 24283 24282 15882 0 31253 THIEF 4 16384 7202 9561 1082 15883 0 31254 ASSASSIN 4 10 24248 24301 24270 15883 0 31254 BOUNTY_HUNTER 4 11 24249 24302 24271 15883 0 31254 SWASHBUCKLER 4 12 24250 24303 24272 15883 0 31254 SHADOWDANCER 4 33 31970 31972 31971 15883 0 31254 BARD 5 16384 7206 9562 1083 15886 0 31269 BLADE 5 13 24251 24304 24273 15886 0 31269 JESTER 5 14 24252 24305 24274 15886 0 31269 SKALD 5 15 24253 24306 24275 15886 0 31269 SORCERER 19 16384 24224 24233 24227 31495 0 32300 DRAGON_DISCIPLE 19 35 31976 31978 31977 31495 0 32300 MONK 20 16384 24225 24234 24228 31494 0 32300 DARK_MOON 20 36 31979 31981 31980 32322 0 32300 SUN_SOUL 20 37 31982 31984 31983 32323 0 32300 BARBARIAN 2 1073741824 24226 24235 24229 31493 0 31268 FIGHTER_MAGE 7 16384 7213 9574 1056 15881 0 9574 FIGHTER_CLERIC 8 16384 7211 9573 1053 15881 0 9573 FIGHTER_THIEF 9 16384 7205 9572 1052 15881 0 9572 FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF 10 16384 7215 24232 1074 15881 0 9576 MAGE_THIEF 13 16384 7216 9575 1057 15882 0 9575 CLERIC_MAGE 14 16384 7207 9577 1058 15884 0 9577 CLERIC_THIEF 15 16384 7209 9578 1065 15884 0 9568 FIGHTER_DRUID 16 16384 7212 9579 1066 15881 0 9579 FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC 17 16384 7214 24231 1075 15881 0 9581 CLERIC_RANGER 18 16384 7208 9580 1073 15884 0 9580 FALLEN_BLACKGUARD 6 32 32306 28606 32307 31492 1 31256 SHAMAN 21 16384 32441 32341 32342 32343 0 32344 OHTYR 3 38 32345 32346 32345 32347 0 31255 FALLEN_BLACKGUARD 6 32 32306 28606 32307 31492 1 31256There is another, SoD-only file you should check, SODCLSTXT.2da, just in case:
2DA V1.0 -1 CLASSID KITID LOWER DESCSTR MIXED BIOGRAPHY FALLEN BRIEFDESC FIGHTER 2 16384 7201 9556 1076 65344 0 31252 BERSERKER 2 1 24239 24284 24261 65344 0 31252 WIZARD_SLAYER 2 2 24240 24285 24262 65344 0 31252 KENSAI 2 3 24241 24286 24263 65344 0 31252 DWARVEN_DEFENDER 2 34 31973 31975 31974 65344 0 31252 RANGER 12 16384 7200 9557 1077 65346 0 31257 ARCHER 12 7 24245 24298 24267 65346 0 31257 STALKER 12 8 24246 24299 24268 65346 0 31257 BEAST_MASTER 12 9 24247 24300 24269 65346 0 31257 FALLEN_RANGER 12 16384 10365 9557 10369 65346 1 31257 FALLEN_ARCHER 12 7 24213 24298 24214 65346 1 31257 FALLEN_STALKER 12 8 24215 24299 24216 65346 1 31257 FALLEN_BEAST_MASTER 12 9 24217 24300 24218 65346 1 31257 PALADIN 6 16384 7217 9558 1078 65347 0 31256 CAVALIER 6 4 24242 24287 24264 65347 0 31256 INQUISITOR 6 5 24243 24288 24265 65347 0 31256 UNDEAD_HUNTER 6 6 24244 24289 24266 65347 0 31256 BLACKGUARD 6 32 28604 28606 28605 65348 0 31256 FALLEN_PALADIN 6 16384 10367 9558 10371 65347 1 31256 FALLEN_CAVALIER 6 4 24207 24287 24208 65347 1 31256 FALLEN_INQUISITOR 6 5 24209 24288 24210 65347 1 31256 FALLEN_UNDEAD_HUNTER 6 6 24211 24289 24212 65347 1 31256 CLERIC 3 16384 7204 24230 1079 65345 0 31255 GODTALOS 3 19 24254 24307 24276 65345 0 31255 GODHELM 3 20 24255 24308 24277 65345 0 31255 GODLATHANDER 3 21 24256 24309 24278 65345 0 31255 FALLEN_CLERIC 3 16384 -1 24230 24205 65345 1 31255 FALLEN_GODLATHANDER 3 21 -1 24309 24206 65345 1 31255 DRUID 11 16384 7210 9560 1080 65349 0 32301 TOTEMIC_DRUID 11 16 24257 24310 24279 65349 0 32301 SHAPESHIFTER 11 17 24258 24311 24280 65349 0 32301 AVENGER 11 18 24259 24312 24281 65349 0 32301 MAGE 1 16384 7203 9563 1081 65350 0 31253 ABJURER 1 64 597 24290 502 65350 0 31253 CONJURER 1 128 2179 24291 504 65350 0 31253 DIVINER 1 256 2846 24292 2012 65350 0 31253 ENCHANTER 1 512 2861 24293 2022 65350 0 31253 ILLUSIONIST 1 1024 2862 24294 12785 65350 0 31253 INVOKER 1 2048 3015 24295 12786 65350 0 31253 NECROMANCER 1 4096 12744 24296 12787 65350 0 31253 TRANSMUTER 1 8192 12745 24297 12788 65350 0 31253 WILDMAGE 1 2147483648 24260 24283 24282 65350 0 31253 THIEF 4 16384 7202 9561 1082 65352 0 31254 ASSASSIN 4 10 24248 24301 24270 65352 0 31254 BOUNTY_HUNTER 4 11 24249 24302 24271 65352 0 31254 SWASHBUCKLER 4 12 24250 24303 24272 65352 0 31254 SHADOWDANCER 4 33 31970 31972 31971 65352 0 31254 BARD 5 16384 7206 9562 1083 65353 0 31269 BLADE 5 13 24251 24304 24273 65353 0 31269 JESTER 5 14 24252 24305 24274 65353 0 31269 SKALD 5 15 24253 24306 24275 65353 0 31269 SORCERER 19 16384 24224 24233 24227 65351 0 32300 DRAGON_DISCIPLE 19 35 31976 31978 31977 65351 0 32300 MONK 20 16384 24225 24234 24228 65356 0 32299 DARK_MOON 20 36 31979 31981 31980 65354 0 32299 SUN_SOUL 20 37 31982 31984 31983 65355 0 32299 BARBARIAN 2 1073741824 24226 24235 24229 65357 0 31268 FIGHTER_MAGE 7 16384 7213 9574 1056 65344 0 9574 FIGHTER_CLERIC 8 16384 7211 9573 1053 65344 0 9573 FIGHTER_THIEF 9 16384 7205 9572 1052 65344 0 9572 FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF 10 16384 7215 24232 1074 65344 0 9576 MAGE_THIEF 13 16384 7216 9575 1057 65350 0 9575 CLERIC_MAGE 14 16384 7207 9577 1058 65345 0 9577 CLERIC_THIEF 15 16384 7209 9578 1065 65345 0 9568 FIGHTER_DRUID 16 16384 7212 9579 1066 65344 0 9579 FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC 17 16384 7214 24231 1075 65344 0 9581 CLERIC_RANGER 18 16384 7208 9580 1073 65345 0 9580 SHAMAN 21 16384 34082 34084 34083 34085 0 34088 OHTYR 3 38 56940 56941 56940 65345 0 31255The game remains playable even with a few wrong strings on character creation, but this situation means I won't be able to use my kit mods in BG:EE, or test them so other people can use them.
Do you think it would be safe to start with a new, empty override folder and try to install things from there?
If not, is there a specific file in the override folder that might be causing the problem besides those .2das? I definitely don't have a dialog.tlk file anywhere in that folder. If I could delete only the files that were responsible for the string issues, then I could keep the rest of the override folder.
Is that override folder or any of its files from a BG2EE game?
There's a section in my TP2 file that refers to BG2 specifically (I borrowed a lot of code from a tutorial), but it's commented out, so I'm not sure why it's working differently in BG1.
/*
* This mod does not use any chapter checks
*
ALWAYS
ACTION_IF GAME_IS ~eet~ BEGIN
OUTER_SET bg2_chapter = 12
END ELSE BEGIN
OUTER_SET bg2_chapter = 0
END
OUTER_FOR (i=1; i<=10; i=i+1) BEGIN
OUTER_SET bg2_chapter = bg2_chapter + 1
OUTER_SPRINT name_source ~bg2_chapter_%i%~
OUTER_SET EVAL ~%name_source%~ = bg2_chapter
END
END
*/
Did you forget to run Modmerge after reinstalling the game?
If not, do the abilities have correct strings? The mod may have an outdated "fl#add_kit_ee.tpa" file.
1. SOD and BGEE both have wrong strings. The same wrong ones.
2. I've never used Modmerge. I've never attempted to mod SOD, so I wouldn't think Modmerge would be necessary to make the kit work with SOD, but I will need to use it anyway to make the kit compatible with SOD. Shall I run Modmerge and try installing the kit once more?
3. The kit's items, spells, creatures, and dialogs also have incorrect strings, in addition to the kit name and description.
4. I don't know about my fl#add_kit_ee.tpa file. I tried to download a fresh version online, but the WeiDu website gives a 404 for the download link. Instead, I used an old .tpa file that I believed to be fresh from WeiDu 236, but I don't believe it's fresh or suitable--using that file and installing the kit mod produced more incorrect strings for separate classes, forcing me to rename the override folder once more.
Thank you so much for your help. I never would have thought of most of the solutions you've proposed. I really appreciate it; it's saved me a tremendous amount of trouble and allowed me to do something I really wanted to do.
Thanks!