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  • webspyderwebspyder Member Posts: 27
    fateless said:


    these are the base numbers. Charisma changes it. I learned this trick long before EE actually. Your Charisma alters those thresh-holds. The chance that alignment is an issue becomes smaller the higher your charisma gets. it becomes bigger the lower it gets. your not educating me on anything. You can have it where they don't try to leave over reputation. or it happens very rarely(which is an issue more if your willing or not willing to reload) Or have them do it every time you get a rep point and your neutral guys will complain more as well.

    I have not seen the behavior you describe. Regardless of charisma, good NPCs break at 4, neutral at 2, and evil at 19.

    DreadKhan
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 351
    edited July 27
    @fateless: I never knew Charisma affected it. Might be worth running a goody-two-shoes bard next time I want Dorn and Viconia and Jaheira and Khalid all in the same party

    @webspyder: I got the low numbers right?
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,294
    In BG2 Vivonia brags about murdering farmers for the record.

    Iirc, Cha can affect how long hostile NPCs will travel together, but this could be all in my head. If you rep exceeds a threshhold, NPCs will get angry and leave, don't think its cha based.
  • webspyderwebspyder Member Posts: 27
    Pokota said:


    @webspyder: I got the low numbers right?

    @Pokota With the way rep drops tend to be fairly big, it's hard to say for certain, but I do believe that is the behavior I observed. Khalid actually left my party with Jahira staying over low rep.

  • fatelessfateless Member Posts: 303
    DreadKhan said:

    In BG2 Vivonia brags about murdering farmers for the record.

    Iirc, Cha can affect how long hostile NPCs will travel together, but this could be all in my head. If you rep exceeds a threshhold, NPCs will get angry and leave, don't think its cha based.

    She doesn't actually brag. She goes into how she got her revenge on them for what they did to her. There is a bit of a difference. How you view that difference I'll leave up to you at this point. I'm not feeling the argument.

    Charisma to really affect some things can take at least an 18 and tends to be more noticeable in the 19+ ranges. Things like complaining less or even not being upset from rep did happen in the game. Doing things like keeping some of the neutrals happy being a lot easier than keeping the evil's sated of course. I had an almost all good party on my last total playthrough so I can go through and try testing it with more evil characters in BGEE if you like.

    But in the base game Edwin was one of my heavily used mages. And I wish I could remember how to put Edwin and Dynaheir into the same party still. Because the two of them were a major powerhouse combination.
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 351
    Per the manuals, Neutrals get unhappy at 20 but they don't break at a Good-aspected reputation. Only at an Evil-aspected one. (see: Baldur's Gate manual, section 9d)
    DreadKhan
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,294
    Thats a bit subjective, but she very much sounds gloating over her 'revenge' imho, not really detatched from it.

    I don't think Cha has any effect on the Reputation based breaks, but I and some others do suspect it keeps infighting to the minimum.
    ThacoBell
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 2,818
    Cha and Rep reduce the chances of fighting and can delay incompatible party members from coming to blows, but there is no way around rep breaks without mods.
  • UnderstandMouseMagicUnderstandMouseMagic Member Posts: 1,145
    edited August 1
    @fateless

    I've just has Edwin/Dynaheir in party together. You just pick up Minsc then Edwin and pick the option "we'll decide later whether to kill her ect."

    Then when you rescue her, the option, "I need both your skills". At that point my cha was 16.
  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 351
    It also works if you rescue Dynaheir first, then talk to Edwin.
    UnderstandMouseMagic
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