I'm half-convinced that all of BG2 takes place in Irenicus's dungeon--because it's usually around the time that I run into Frennedan that I think, "I wonder what would have happened if..."
Still have yet to try the game with a thief, though. I'm not sure why.
@HaHaCharade - I admit it, I am an addict to restart... But because of the delay of BG:EE I think my restarts will be reduced dramatically, since I actually started reading different guides to BG (never did that with original). So I planned ahead... @Aosaw - I did the same in BG2, and I really didn't like playing Irenicus' Dungeon... It was just like, after finishing BG I wanted CHARNAME to go BG->BG2, but then I really had to try out these new kits...
I think Irenicus' dungeon is precisely the reason I don't restart very often. The place is well designed, sure, but there's only so many times I can go through it without going crazy. It's not like Candlekeep where you can get out in a snap and then do whatever the hell you want.
For me I restart a lot especially if I don't transfer a character from BG1 to bg2. If I play a character through the first game my likelihood of finishing that character in BG2 is much better.
I did restarted often when i reached Spellhold in BGII. Becuse then is was more or less a straight line of Irenicus butt kicking (for goodness!) and I prefer the RPG part when you can choose your edventures and quests.
In BG is was mor likely for me to restart around the return to Candlekeep.
I must be a startover girl too, especially when I've had a break from the game for a while and make stupid mistakes in Candlekeep or Irenicus' dungeon, & of course if I'm restarting I might as well reroll too...
I have a serious problem with games that have multiple characters to try out, it gets a massive restart fest!!! >< ..specially when these chars has skill trees .....AAAAARRR!!!!!
I have a serious problem with games that have multiple characters to try out, it gets a massive restart fest!!! >< ..specially when these chars has skill trees .....AAAAARRR!!!!!
I just re-started a new game of BGII and red your post as the intro played. Just as the Shadow Thief gets hit by a spell and is turned into a stone - he scrams "AAAAARRR!!!!!" and I red you post, and that exact word, at the same time as that happened. Priceless!
For me the opposite is true. Once I create a character I really like, I want him to continue increasing in power indefinitely. In BG1 I played with the same PC for five real time years. More recently, I've been playing with a different PC in BG2 for about 1.5 years. I hate starting over because if I do it feels like everything I did up until that point becomes a waste of time.
When I was first learning how to play Baldur's Gate I did experiment with several different character classes, so I guess that could qualify as starting over frequently, since I didn't finish the game with many of them. So far, I've really only finished the game completely with three characters in the 13 years I've played Baldur's Gate, but two of those three I've played with for almost the entire time.
I'm seriously OCD. I restart Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate *TOO* much. Does anyone else have this problem? If I miss something or find out I could do something better, or decide to change my stats, etc. etc. etc. I just start over lol. Ugh. I think its a sickness.
I thought I'm the only one ;P I was ashamed to admit, but it seems that's not only my problem. Even now I have (in my opinion) too many ideas of my character/party in BG:EE.
ahahahahaha, by now I know Chateau Irenicus by heart. ...Am I the only one who actually isn't really bothered by going through it multiple times?
Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I love the dungeon. The design is quite clever, and it's a great introduction to the game, as well as some of the themes. There's just a point when I've done it so many times that it gets annoying.
And no matter how many times I complete the dungeon, there will always be a point where I stare at the screen with a blank expression on my face, and think "How the hell am I lost?" Or "wasn't there a genie in here somewhere?"
Edit: Or "Why is it taking Irenicus days to take care of a few thieves?"
Also guilty of restarting a lot, and since I'm so anal about "pure", "full" playthroughs, it can get somewhat painful. For example, if I play through all of BG and most of BG2 as a thief, and then around when I exit the underdark I figure I really want a mage character instead, my sense of immersion won't allow me to just edit my character into a mage, nor even to restart BG2 as a mage; I have to create a mage from scratch, and I have to restart from Candlekeep.
And I'm not allowed to skip out on anything during the mage playthrough just because I recently played through it as a thief. No, every area must be explored, every enemy slain, every unique NPC talked to, every quest resolved and every container opened, this time as well.
I waffle. Normally, I play through, no matter what, but not when trying something 'new'. I'm quick to give up on classes that don't make sense to me. Or something else happens.
Such as mages not getting INT-based bonus spells of PNP. Made me furious. Might balance out later, but early on, once the pack of magic missiles is gone, you're frail and worthless.
With other games of this genre, I have a problem with getting distracted with either real life or another game. If that happens, and I haven't played my game in more than a week or two, I forget where I am in the story and no longer feel immersed in it, then I have to start over. This is the reason I have never finished NWN. My name is Kristie and I have a restarting problem.
With other games of this genre, I have a problem with getting distracted with either real life or another game. If that happens, and I haven't played my game in more than a week or two, I forget where I am in the story and no longer feel immersed in it, then I have to start over. This is the reason I have never finished NWN. My name is Kristie and I have a restarting problem.
Yeah I get burned out on games easily. I put down the first Dragon Age in Fall of 2009 and never picked it back up again. lol.
This is even worse in a grindfest ARPG like Sacred 2, where you hate 200 levels and no respecs allowed. Do the slightest thing wrong, or change your mind and you can't undo it.
Imagine getting to level 199, and suddenly misclicming and putting a point somewhere that you didn't need it. So horrible!
@Mungri, I hear you! I am also a Sacred 2 fan. In a way, thinking about and planning your build is part of the fun. But in another way, every decision is agonizing, because if you mess up a build, you might not realize it until you get pretty advanced into the game, and then, you've wasted dozens of hours of play time.
Only chronic restarters like a lot of us in this thread know about that "Augh! Back to the drawing board! I have to start all over! This character bites!" moment. It's quite a mix of emotions. Frustration, a little bit of anger, and finally, steely resolve. (Sigh. Level one. Tutorial Town. Grind, grind, grind, grind...)
I definitely restarted this way too often. Especially BG2. But I can't help it. Too many choices for your main PC! I always want to play this, and that, and that, and this, and oh this too! And when I tried a full custom party, while I loved to have all the classes I wanted, I got quickly bored because the companions bring a lot to the game, but kept creating them anyway because character creation is fun.
And as for Irenicus' dungeon? I took a 5 year break from the game and can still remember the whole dungeon, with all the secrets, traps and quests.
On the bright side, I know the existence of shadow keeper now, so I can use the companions and the classes I want.
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Still have yet to try the game with a thief, though. I'm not sure why.
@Aosaw - I did the same in BG2, and I really didn't like playing Irenicus' Dungeon... It was just like, after finishing BG I wanted CHARNAME to go BG->BG2, but then I really had to try out these new kits...
In BG is was mor likely for me to restart around the return to Candlekeep.
..specially when these chars has skill trees .....AAAAARRR!!!!!
When I was first learning how to play Baldur's Gate I did experiment with several different character classes, so I guess that could qualify as starting over frequently, since I didn't finish the game with many of them. So far, I've really only finished the game completely with three characters in the 13 years I've played Baldur's Gate, but two of those three I've played with for almost the entire time.
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I was ashamed to admit, but it seems that's not only my problem. Even now I have (in my opinion) too many ideas of my character/party in BG:EE.
ahahahahaha, by now I know Chateau Irenicus by heart.
...Am I the only one who actually isn't really bothered by going through it multiple times?
And no matter how many times I complete the dungeon, there will always be a point where I stare at the screen with a blank expression on my face, and think "How the hell am I lost?" Or "wasn't there a genie in here somewhere?"
Edit: Or "Why is it taking Irenicus days to take care of a few thieves?"
Seriously, Bodhi, not EVERYTHING needs to be posted to Facebook!
And I'm not allowed to skip out on anything during the mage playthrough just because I recently played through it as a thief. No, every area must be explored, every enemy slain, every unique NPC talked to, every quest resolved and every container opened, this time as well.
Such as mages not getting INT-based bonus spells of PNP. Made me furious. Might balance out later, but early on, once the pack of magic missiles is gone, you're frail and worthless.
Imagine getting to level 199, and suddenly misclicming and putting a point somewhere that you didn't need it. So horrible!
Only chronic restarters like a lot of us in this thread know about that "Augh! Back to the drawing board! I have to start all over! This character bites!" moment. It's quite a mix of emotions. Frustration, a little bit of anger, and finally, steely resolve. (Sigh. Level one. Tutorial Town. Grind, grind, grind, grind...)
Back to topic though, I also enjoy character creation and testing out what is fun to play so I tend to restart frequently as well.
And as for Irenicus' dungeon? I took a 5 year break from the game and can still remember the whole dungeon, with all the secrets, traps and quests.
On the bright side, I know the existence of shadow keeper now, so I can use the companions and the classes I want.
I think I've copied my first character's saves (all 30 of them) to and fro at least five different computers...