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  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    lroumen said:

    Why do so many of you pronounce an 'a' as 'uh'?

    Well, at least in English, any letter can have anywhere from 2 to 4 different sounds depending on its context.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    edited March 2018
    lroumen said:

    Why do so many of you pronounce an 'a' as 'uh'?

    In English, usually (always, usually in English), if a word is supposed to end with the long a sound, it would be followed by a y.

    Examples: may, day, tray, etc...
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    "A" can have multiple different sounds, so when spelling it out phonetically, people usually use these conventions:

    a = the "a" in "cat"
    ah = the "a" in "father"
    aw = the "a" in "law"
    uh = the "a" in "soda"
    ay = the "a" in "late"

    "A" can also appear in other phonetic spellings:

    ai = the "i" in "time"
    ao = the "ow" in "how"

    Fun fact: numerous A's in Sanskrit are pronounced "uh" even when a word has multiple A's in it. For instance, "ananda" is pronounced "uh-nuhn-duh," while an English pronunciation of "ananda" would be "uh-nahn-duh."

    English in general has lots of ambiguous vowels as well as ambiguous accents on syllables. That's pretty much the only reason this topic even exists!
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    Maybe but I cannot recall a word where the a sounds like uh
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Another
    Arrive
    Penalize
    Apathy (the second "a")
    Analyze (the second "a")
    Virtually any "a" that comes at the end of a word, like hydra, ulna, sofa, soda, papa, aqua, mama, salsa, corona, extrema, era, novella, plaza, pizza, pupa, larva, diva, nova, data, okra, boa, fora, and phyla.

    It's extremely common in English.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    lroumen said:

    Maybe but I cannot recall a word where the a sounds like uh

    @Iroumen
    Are you Welsh?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317

    elminster said:

    A-gan-azz-er

    deity

    is the "azz" sound more "az" or "ats"?
    Az

    Source: We met once at a spellcasting conference :)
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    edited March 2018

    Another
    Arrive
    Penalize
    Apathy (the second "a")
    Analyze (the second "a")
    Virtually any "a" that comes at the end of a word, like hydra, ulna, sofa, soda, papa, aqua, mama, salsa, corona, extrema, era, novella, plaza, pizza, pupa, larva, diva, nova, data, okra, boa, fora, and phyla.

    It's extremely common in English.

    sorry but none of these are an uh for me. Or maybe I don't understand what uh should sound like then. I would pronounce them as ah.

    lroumen said:

    Maybe but I cannot recall a word where the a sounds like uh

    @Iroumen
    Are you Welsh?
    Dutch having learned Oxford English.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164
    lroumen said:

    Another
    Arrive
    Penalize
    Apathy (the second "a")
    Analyze (the second "a")
    Virtually any "a" that comes at the end of a word, like hydra, ulna, sofa, soda, papa, aqua, mama, salsa, corona, extrema, era, novella, plaza, pizza, pupa, larva, diva, nova, data, okra, boa, fora, and phyla.

    It's extremely common in English.

    sorry but none of these are an uh for me. Or maybe I don't understand what uh should sound like then. I would pronounce them as ah.
    Are you from Boston?
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    @lroumen: What about the word "mama?" Do both A's have the exact same sound?

    Also, I just now realized that your username is a lowercase L instead of an uppercase i. I thought your username was pronounced "ee-roh-min," and sounded kind of like Imoen.
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    edited March 2018
    Mama is indeed both the same sound for both syllables.

    It's L Roumen :), Row-mun. (not row as columns and rows but row meaning an argument, like saying how.

    My gamer name is ironman by reading the L as capital i, inverting the u to n and the e to a.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Anyway, continuing the game:

    Garrick: gare-rick

    Next name: rakshasa
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164

    Anyway, continuing the game:

    Garrick: gare-rick

    Next name: rakshasa

    Rock-shah-sah

    Ankheg
  • NeverusedNeverused Member Posts: 803
    ...... How do you even phonetically explain this one?
    Angk-egg
    The "A" is like the "A" in kangaroo.
    Davaeorn
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Davaeorn: dah-vay-orn (all syllables equally accented)

    Next name: @Alesia_BH
  • NeverusedNeverused Member Posts: 803
    Uh-leeshi-uh Bee-aitch
    Next name: Nishruu
  • Alesia_BHAlesia_BH Member Posts: 786
    edited March 2018
    I've always pronounced Nishruu as "Neesh-roo," actually. Now that I think about it, I'm inclined to go with Nih-shroo.

    Next Name: Qilue

    (Aren't non-phonetic alphabets fun? You can't play this game in Korean)
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    edited March 2018
    Qui? Louis?
    Or Ki-Lu-Eh

    Aboleth
  • NeverusedNeverused Member Posts: 803
    Alesia_BH said:

    Neverused said:

    Bee-aitch

    Umm...Careful there. That's close to being, well, ahh, not exactly what I intended... :D

    Best,

    A.

    Yeah, I realized that as I was typing... But how else do you get the letter B and then the letter H?
  • Contemplative_HamsterContemplative_Hamster Member Posts: 844
    "Bee FULL STOP aitch FULL STOP" does the trick.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Welcome back, @Alesia_BH! It's good to have you around.
  • bob_vengbob_veng Member Posts: 2,308
    lroumen said:

    Another
    Arrive
    Penalize
    Apathy (the second "a")
    Analyze (the second "a")
    Virtually any "a" that comes at the end of a word, like hydra, ulna, sofa, soda, papa, aqua, mama, salsa, corona, extrema, era, novella, plaza, pizza, pupa, larva, diva, nova, data, okra, boa, fora, and phyla.

    It's extremely common in English.

    sorry but none of these are an uh for me. Or maybe I don't understand what uh should sound like then. I would pronounce them as ah.

    lroumen said:

    Maybe but I cannot recall a word where the a sounds like uh

    @Iroumen
    Are you Welsh?
    Dutch having learned Oxford English.
    i think that you don't understand which sound is being denoted by 'uh'
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    If you can, link me a sound
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    edited March 2018
    @lroumen: There's a video on Youtube where a woman switches back and forth. Skip to 1:00.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPv2mJJwHQ
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,538
    edited March 2018
    Okay, I definitely know what uh is then. The Dutch use it a lot. But, I still have no idea which -a- containing word would be spoken as an uh :p.

    Funny how sounds differ.
  • bob_vengbob_veng Member Posts: 2,308
    edited March 2018
    maybe we should use the cmu phonetic notation system, it's by far the simplest (official) one, but it's just for AmE
    http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/cmudict?in=rubber

    there 'uh' is AH

    Phoneme Example Translation ------- ------- ----------- AA odd AA D AE at AE T AH hut HH AH T AO ought AO T AW cow K AW AY hide HH AY D B be B IY CH cheese CH IY Z D dee D IY DH thee DH IY EH Ed EH D ER hurt HH ER T EY ate EY T F fee F IY G green G R IY N HH he HH IY IH it IH T IY eat IY T JH gee JH IY K key K IY L lee L IY M me M IY N knee N IY NG ping P IH NG OW oat OW T OY toy T OY P pee P IY R read R IY D S sea S IY SH she SH IY T tea T IY TH theta TH EY T AH UH hood HH UH D UW two T UW V vee V IY W we W IY Y yield Y IY L D Z zee Z IY ZH seizure S IY ZH ER

    here's how their automated pronounciation tool does it, not bad imho
    THAXLLSSILLYIA TH AE K S L S AH L AY IY AH NABASSU N AH B AE S UW YXUNOMEI Y K S Y UW N AH M IY PHAERE F IY R DRIZZT D R IH Z T HAREISHAN HH AH R IY SH AH N BRAGE B R EY JH DEMIVRGVS D AH M IH V R G Z MUTAMIN M Y UW T AH M AH N OTYUGH AA T AY UW ALAUNDO AH L AO N D OW BJORNIN B JH AO R N AH N SVIRFNEBLIN S V AH R F N EH B L AH N MELF'S MINUTE METEORS M EH L F S M IH N AH T M IY T IY ER Z FIRKRAAG F AH R K R AH G BODHI B AA D HH IY PAI-NA P AA IY N AA XVART Z V AA R T
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Somehow we got lost. I'll start it up again.

    Aboleth: ab-oh-leth

    Next name: @Grond0
  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    edited March 2018
    Someone else will have to help me out here because I don't know ;).

    I can't remember when I fixed on Grond as a user name, but it was quite a few years ago. The first time I used it, it was simply Grond (I took the name from the battering ram in Lord of the Rings, rather than the older hammer of Morgoth). That wasn't allowed on the next site I tried to use it for though, so it got converted to Grond0 and has stuck there. Although it's clearly written with the number zero, I'd answer to either the number or the letter 'o' when verbalized. That reflects the fact that when I say phone numbers I use o and 0 interchangeably - though if anything I probably have a slight preference for o.

    Edit: re-reading that post I see I shouldn't have tried to respond immediately while I was in the middle of doing something else :p. I'll leave the post in case it gives anyone else a chuckle, while throwing out Loup Garou for offers.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    What's the next name to pronounce, @Grond0?
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