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  • kjeronkjeron Member Posts: 2,368
    @dunehunter My first guess would be it doesn't like the fact that it's just a .tp2 file with no folder, but I really wouldn't know.
  • UlkeshUlkesh Member Posts: 271
    edited June 2023
    kjeron wrote: »
    It's a simple enough edit if you want to do it yourself. Just change lines 974 & 997 in the .tp2 from:
    Range(LastSeenBy,15)
    
    to
    Range(LastSeenBy,30)
    
    before installing.

    Thank you.

    For anyone wondering, you have to use notepad++.

    I edited the value with "vanilla" notepad only to realize the install couldn't go through due to errors. I would bet the text was messed up by notepad.


    Edit: I've also got another feature request: may you add a "trap intuition" component, such as the one added by Magus in Tweaks and Tricks? "Before a trap is "detected" by thief skill, a party member will "sense" it: notice that something's wrong, and possibly take an action based on that. You can choose to use intuition just out of combat, or in combat too".


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  • SaralainSaralain Member Posts: 8
    Thank you for this mod. Honestly such a big QOL improvement. I play a lot of thieves who pride themselves on their ability to find traps, but the slowness of it was getting on my nerves.
  • masteralephmasteraleph Member Posts: 274
    Wondering whether it’s possible to combine the fast trap finding with Olvyn’s Epic Thieving mod. I like the idea on a pure thief of the thieving points continuing to have value , but the fast trap finding seems like a truly massive qol improvement.
  • deratiseurderatiseur Member Posts: 242
    Thank you for this mod, it's absolutly amazing :)
  • lootenantdanlootenantdan Member Posts: 4
    Does this mod no longer work with IWDEE (2.6)?
  • deratiseurderatiseur Member Posts: 242
    edited March 10
    I've trayified the mod and added the french language. Take the updated version here. engine update: trayification
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  • UlkeshUlkesh Member Posts: 271
    Trap Recovery - Anytime a trap is disarmed, if the thief's Find Traps skill is at least 125% of the removal score then they will recover the trap, which they may then set similar to their own Snares (dependent on the Set Traps skill). All such traps have a proximity radius of 4 ft and require 15 lore to ID (but not to use). Only traps that can be reproduced (cast spells) can be recovered. Traps that cast normal spells will pull their description from the spell itself, but traps that use trap spells have pre-written descriptions, so there may be some inconsistencies if they've been modified.

    What happens if I disarm an epic trap from Olvynchuru's mod ? https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/74158/mod-epic-thieving-more-benefits-from-high-thieving-skills/p1
  • kjeronkjeron Member Posts: 2,368
    Ulkesh wrote: »
    Only traps that can be reproduced (cast spells) can be recovered.
    Ulkesh wrote: »
    This is in primarily in reference to:
    • traps that fire off multiple spells - it only grabs the first one. This was just too complicated for me to account for possibilities.
    • traps that are purely script-based, such as creature-spawning or alarms - traps that normally cannot be disarmed or even detected anyway.
    Otherwise, hopefully those traps will get processed like any other, though there will likely be some that cannot be recovered simply because the score required would exceed what the player can achieve. They may end with with a generic "Unknown" trap name/description, if the spell has neither.
    Any of them that utilize the hardcoded Call Lightning projectiles will be nerfed to a single strike, to avoid crashing. If you notice anything similar with it's custom spells/projectiles, I can try to make exceptions for them.
  • UlkeshUlkesh Member Posts: 271
    Thanks a lot for the explanation. I will report weird traps, if I meet any.

    By the way, I think it would also be cool for the character shouting TRAP if they have enough skills even if you are not detecting them :P - but I leave that to you.
  • xiaoleiwenxiaoleiwen Member Posts: 193
    edited May 29
    May I know where should I put this mod in my install order. After tweak anthology? After SCS? Or After enhanced powergaming script? These 3 mods are the last in my list.
  • ConnellyConnelly Member Posts: 79
    xiaoleiwen wrote: »
    May I know where should I put this mod in my install order. After tweak anthology? After SCS? Or After enhanced powergaming script? These 3 mods are the last in my list.

    I've taken to install it by the end, among the very last mods that touch abilities themselves. In this case, after TA and SCS, and before EPS.
  • xiaoleiwenxiaoleiwen Member Posts: 193
    thanks, tried it out and it works, great mod :)
  • MoxtierMoxtier Member Posts: 1
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    I got an error only when "Fast detection" is involved, when i chose any other option there is no problems.

    what it could be?
  • kjeronkjeron Member Posts: 2,368
    Moxtier wrote: »
    4ndu068blo24.png
    I got an error only when "Fast detection" is involved, when i chose any other option there is no problems.
    Apparently some game versions are still missing the new OBJECT entries.
    If you know how, add these to OBJECT.IDS before installation:
    95 NearestAllyOf
    96 SecondNearestAllyOf
    97 ThirdNearestAllyOf
    98 FourthNearestAllyOf
    99 FifthNearestAllyOf
    100 SixthNearestAllyOf
    101 SeventhNearestAllyOf
    102 EighthNearestAllyOf
    103 NinthNearestAllyOf
    104 TenthNearestAllyOf
    105 FarthestEnemyOf
    106 SecondFarthestEnemyOf
    107 ThirdFarthestEnemyOf
    108 FourthFarthestEnemyOf
    109 FifthFarthestEnemyOf
    110 SixthFarthestEnemyOf
    111 SeventhFarthestEnemyOf
    112 EighthFarthestEnemyOf
    113 NinthFarthestEnemyOf
    114 TenthFarthestEnemyOf
    
    I can get a new version out to add them as needed later this week.
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