@Quartz Megadeths solos are what got me into them I have been listening to them since I was 5. They are what got me into metal in the first place Rust in Peace is one of my all time fav albums and I saw them live for there 20th anniversary tour for that album tis was amazing
@xxxsmb1987xxx the album hammerheart is quite famous among metal heads, because it influenced or started a whole metal genre. The oldest albums from Bathory are black metal, for example "under the sign of the black mark" or "The return" and "Blood Fire Death". Later he changed to Viking and Thrash. Still love all his work.
this, sorry for making this thread, just delete the thing so these idiots will stop arguing. Seriously, how hard is to just be civil? You wanna be bad? Go throw some punches with somebody, don't sit on a damn website and hide behind a freaking forum name. Once again, sorry for even making a thread. Apparently you can't even discuss music without pole smoking flamers ruining it. Edited for profanity, sorry.
@Ruckus3 You think this was bad? You should read some of the threads on BG romances - it gets flaming hot very fast... (really) Seriously though, we're back to actual music now, aren't we? Let the recommendations continue
Sorry about that, after about halfway through reading page 3 I posted that. You're right though, my bad. I tend to say (or type) stuff before I think about it.
@dethbringre Metal Church was great, Testament also great souls of black is still amazing to this day, I havent heard of WARLOCK though do you have any recommended good songs by them?
I cant help but chuckle reading this thread. Whining about your favourite bands.....its not about what;s 'more' metal or "less metal" you know.
I respect everyone's taste and opinion, since we are all different. As should you all.
But still some things remain a fact' As it is always the same when some people think they can capture the essence of "metal music" within a list of bands consisting of'; Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Biskit and Marilyn Manson kind of stuff. I always feel i have to explain. Most of the time its because they don't know any other bands (metal bands).
Each to its own ofcourse, you can call it nu-metal but please don't call it "heavy metal music" because it simpy isn't. It derives from metal yes, but flirted with pop music, rap music and hiphop, dj's and nowdays even the freaking dance scene. It doesn't mean you can just put a guitar riff in it and call it metal then. Your not a shitty tasteless person for listening to it, but the truth is you cant say its the same.
I can agree if you say you listen and like "heavy music" but i wont if you say your a metalhead while choosing Marilyn Manson over Testament. To me its like someone reading the Koran while not reading the bible... and saying he is christian.
Either way, i can truly enjoy listening to some korn or Rage against the machine, simply because they have lots of influences of my so beloved music genre. I simply say; I'm a metalhead and i listen to metal and other forms of "heavy" music! Let us all just look at it that way....everyone happy.
Rage Against the Machine (not exactly deathmetal, but de la Roche is beast)
I'm really surprised you mentioned Zach de la Rocha and not Tom Morello. Of the two, I think De la Rocha is a far better activist, but Morello impresses me far more as a musician. He's pretty legendary as a guitarist, and his level of artistry is few and far between in heavier rock and metal.
Unfortunately, since his solo career, he seems to think he's the modern-day Bob Dylan. It's not that he's less talented, just that he makes a far better Tom Morello than a Bob Dylan.
@BrightNight I may not like your post (beating a dead horse) but it's true. I used to consider myself a metalhead then I realized I'm really not, like you say. The only true metal I like is the stuff in the 80's. (Megadeth, Black Sabbath, etc.)
The "true metal" nowadays is terrible. Death metal, doom metal, and all this other crap with Satanic imagery. As a Christian, I'm really not into Satanic imagery. I don't get butthurt or offended, but obviously it gets in the way of me liking a band. In the same way that Satanic imagery is unnecessary (they just do it to put on a show, to shock people and such), a lot of the music itself is unnecessarily grotesque in its vocals and/or lyrics.
Another thing is, you say nu metal has "pop" elements. I believe the pop influence you speak of is catchy sing-songy choruses and more poppy music structures, which is absolutely true, it's there. I know you weren't criticizing at all but I want to explain myself; I like that influence because a lot of true metal, when I hear it I'm like "Yeah, that was a cool song!" but nothing actually catches or hooks me so I'm not compelled to hear it again.
But yeah overall you're right; I'm not a metal fan I'm a hard rock fan. I don't care most metal heads are huge assholes so not being grouped with them is fine with me. Furthermore, as you say it doesn't matter that much. Is it heavy? Okay, explain that you like "heavy" music. That's cool.
Rage Against the Machine (not exactly deathmetal, but de la Roche is beast)
I'm really surprised you mentioned Zach de la Rocha and not Tom Morello. Of the two, I think De la Rocha is a far better activist, but Morello impresses me far more as a musician. He's pretty legendary as a guitarist, and his level of artistry is few and far between in heavier rock and metal.
Unfortunately, since his solo career, he seems to think he's the modern-day Bob Dylan. It's not that he's less talented, just that he makes a far better Tom Morello than a Bob Dylan.
Pal, have you ever heard Inside Out? It's Zach's absolutely primal freaking roar that I love. Morello has mad talent, but lately has definitely been letting it go to his head. Like getting pissed off at the politician that said he liked rage, that's just excessive. As far as who I like better, hands down its Zach because of his sheer ferocity on the mic.
@BrightNight I may not like your post (beating a dead horse) but it's true. I used to consider myself a metalhead then I realized I'm really not, like you say. The only true metal I like is the stuff in the 80's. (Megadeth, Black Sabbath, etc.)
The "true metal" nowadays is terrible. Death metal, doom metal, and all this other crap with Satanic imagery. As a Christian, I'm really not into Satanic imagery. I don't get butthurt or offended, but obviously it gets in the way of me liking a band. In the same way that Satanic imagery is unnecessary (they just do it to put on a show, to shock people and such), a lot of the music itself is unnecessarily grotesque in its vocals and/or lyrics.
Another thing is, you say nu metal has "pop" elements. I believe the pop influence you speak of is catchy sing-songy choruses and more poppy music structures, which is absolutely true, it's there. I know you weren't criticizing at all but I want to explain myself; I like that influence because a lot of true metal, when I hear it I'm like "Yeah, that was a cool song!" but nothing actually catches or hooks me so I'm not compelled to hear it again.
But yeah overall you're right; I'm not a metal fan I'm a hard rock fan. I don't care most metal heads are huge assholes so not being grouped with them is fine with me. Furthermore, as you say it doesn't matter that much. Is it heavy? Okay, explain that you like "heavy" music. That's cool.
Dude, please don't be a dick in my thread. Seriously, I really don't want this to turn into something big. You're a Christian who thinks all metal heads are assholes, that's fine. Since that's the case next time you see a thread with the title "Metal heads" don't even open it up. Now please, don't start any more shit.
@BrightNight I may not like your post (beating a dead horse) but it's true. I used to consider myself a metalhead then I realized I'm really not, like you say. The only true metal I like is the stuff in the 80's. (Megadeth, Black Sabbath, etc.)
The "true metal" nowadays is terrible. Death metal, doom metal, and all this other crap with Satanic imagery. As a Christian, I'm really not into Satanic imagery. I don't get butthurt or offended, but obviously it gets in the way of me liking a band. In the same way that Satanic imagery is unnecessary (they just do it to put on a show, to shock people and such), a lot of the music itself is unnecessarily grotesque in its vocals and/or lyrics.
Another thing is, you say nu metal has "pop" elements. I believe the pop influence you speak of is catchy sing-songy choruses and more poppy music structures, which is absolutely true, it's there. I know you weren't criticizing at all but I want to explain myself; I like that influence because a lot of true metal, when I hear it I'm like "Yeah, that was a cool song!" but nothing actually catches or hooks me so I'm not compelled to hear it again.
But yeah overall you're right; I'm not a metal fan I'm a hard rock fan. I don't care most metal heads are huge assholes so not being grouped with them is fine with me. Furthermore, as you say it doesn't matter that much. Is it heavy? Okay, explain that you like "heavy" music. That's cool.
Thanks for your understanding, but i think i have to explain. You might be a bit short sighted on this, or miss out on some things.
Well, first of all i'm not into beating horses or any animals for that matter....especially not if they are dead :-) (i always play a ranger you know).
Secondly and seriously, if you like metal from the 80's (thrash metal gallore!) and are into Black Sabbath and Megadeth you might be a metalhead for all i care since it wont get anymore metal then that :-D.
"true metal" is not terrible (you did like Sabbath and Megadeth remember?). It is a matter of personal opinion and taste. If you don't like satanic imagery, which i can understand since your Christian....then simply don't listen to that kind of bands. If i were you, don't go listen to black metal and maybe be a bit picky on some death metal bands. Further more...some themes used by metal bands are "oppression, pain, dead, live, love, war and religion......just pick your favourite and don't listen to the religion ones?
If you don't like satanic movies...simply don't watch them...does that mean all 'true' movies are satanic?
If you like reading....go read the bible and don't pick up "the god delusion" by Dawkins and leave the satanic bible for what it is. Still you are a "reader" right?
To give you a tip; Bands consist of musicians called 'band members'....these are most of the time very divers people with own views of life and opinions. Some are Atheist some are Christian, some are pagan...some are satanic. Maybe you should only listen to christian metal bands? There are LOTS out there, playing 'true' metal, just for you. :-)
Oh and about the pop music thing being catchy and metal isn't so.....; the essence of metal music is the guitar drivin RIFF. Which by nature is catchy....go listen Iron Man by black sabbath, and see if it will ever get out of your head again :-) they invented it.
I hope things are more clear for you now, if not feel free to ask.
Oh and btw, i don't care most Christans are huge assholes for being short sighted and think they have this monopoly about the truths of live, so not being grouped with them is fine with me.
So....am i the only one who cant wait for the upcoming new album of Black Sabbath?
I bought tickets for this year tour, but the tour was canceled because of Tony Iommi's cancer treatment. Hopes are up for a world tour this coming year since he is well again!
Black Sabbath (both Dio and Ozzy) Judas Priest Iron Maiden Dio Rainbow (with Dio:P) Dream Theatre Yngwie Malmsteen Ozzy (alone) Bruce Dickinson (alone) Hammerfall Liquid Tenson Motorhead Stratovarius
And alot of others, though not metal, more rock/hard rock Deep Purple etc
So....am i the only one who cant wait for the upcoming new album of Black Sabbath?
I bought tickets for this year tour, but the tour was canceled because of Tony Iommi's cancer treatment. Hopes are up for a world tour this coming year since he is well again!
Dude cant wait...
I was going to see them in Bergen(Norway). But when it got canceled i got tickets to Motorhead insted. So it was allmoste as good;)
So....am i the only one who cant wait for the upcoming new album of Black Sabbath?
I bought tickets for this year tour, but the tour was canceled because of Tony Iommi's cancer treatment. Hopes are up for a world tour this coming year since he is well again!
New Sabbath??? Why the hell was I not informed of this?! Hell yeah guys thanks for the heads up!
Yup new Sabbath indeed! As far as i know the tracks are almost finished. Iommi has got all his guitar parts on it and right now Ozzy and Geezer are putting the lyrics and vocals down in the studio.
A shame Bill Ward will not be in the band...a huge miss, since it is not 100% Black Sabbath without Bill behind the kit. Anyway, i think i should not complain to much and just be happy to see them release new material and probaly tour afterwards. Cant freaking waaaaaaait. :-)
So....am i the only one who cant wait for the upcoming new album of Black Sabbath?
I bought tickets for this year tour, but the tour was canceled because of Tony Iommi's cancer treatment. Hopes are up for a world tour this coming year since he is well again!
Dude cant wait...
I was going to see them in Bergen(Norway). But when it got canceled i got tickets to Motorhead insted. So it was allmoste as good;)
Good to hear i'm not the only one who was crying himself to sleep that night :-D.
while Motorhead is a O.K. band to me, which i have seen lots of times and did enjoy.....its not like we should compare it to Sabbath, now should we? :-)
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Drink the blood of the priest
Cry of the Banshee
And there is Mirrorthrone
So frail
One of my favorite songs of Emerson Lake and Palmer (Art Rock) - Living Sin
Still love all his work.
Edited for profanity, sorry.
You think this was bad? You should read some of the threads on BG romances - it gets flaming hot very fast... (really) Seriously though, we're back to actual music now, aren't we? Let the recommendations continue
I respect everyone's taste and opinion, since we are all different. As should you all.
But still some things remain a fact' As it is always the same when some people think they can capture the essence of "metal music" within a list of bands consisting of'; Korn, Linkin Park, Limp Biskit and Marilyn Manson kind of stuff. I always feel i have to explain. Most of the time its because they don't know any other bands (metal bands).
Each to its own ofcourse, you can call it nu-metal but please don't call it "heavy metal music" because it simpy isn't. It derives from metal yes, but flirted with pop music, rap music and hiphop, dj's and nowdays even the freaking dance scene. It doesn't mean you can just put a guitar riff in it and call it metal then. Your not a shitty tasteless person for listening to it, but the truth is you cant say its the same.
I can agree if you say you listen and like "heavy music" but i wont if you say your a metalhead while choosing Marilyn Manson over Testament. To me its like someone reading the Koran while not reading the bible... and saying he is christian.
Either way, i can truly enjoy listening to some korn or Rage against the machine, simply because they have lots of influences of my so beloved music genre. I simply say; I'm a metalhead and i listen to metal and other forms of "heavy" music! Let us all just look at it that way....everyone happy.
Unfortunately, since his solo career, he seems to think he's the modern-day Bob Dylan. It's not that he's less talented, just that he makes a far better Tom Morello than a Bob Dylan.
The "true metal" nowadays is terrible. Death metal, doom metal, and all this other crap with Satanic imagery. As a Christian, I'm really not into Satanic imagery. I don't get butthurt or offended, but obviously it gets in the way of me liking a band. In the same way that Satanic imagery is unnecessary (they just do it to put on a show, to shock people and such), a lot of the music itself is unnecessarily grotesque in its vocals and/or lyrics.
Another thing is, you say nu metal has "pop" elements. I believe the pop influence you speak of is catchy sing-songy choruses and more poppy music structures, which is absolutely true, it's there. I know you weren't criticizing at all but I want to explain myself; I like that influence because a lot of true metal, when I hear it I'm like "Yeah, that was a cool song!" but nothing actually catches or hooks me so I'm not compelled to hear it again.
But yeah overall you're right; I'm not a metal fan I'm a hard rock fan. I don't care most metal heads are huge assholes so not being grouped with them is fine with me. Furthermore, as you say it doesn't matter that much. Is it heavy? Okay, explain that you like "heavy" music. That's cool.
Running Wild
Accept
Metallica
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and Yngwie Malmsteen
Well, first of all i'm not into beating horses or any animals for that matter....especially not if they are dead :-) (i always play a ranger you know).
Secondly and seriously, if you like metal from the 80's (thrash metal gallore!) and are into Black Sabbath and Megadeth you might be a metalhead for all i care since it wont get anymore metal then that :-D.
"true metal" is not terrible (you did like Sabbath and Megadeth remember?). It is a matter of personal opinion and taste. If you don't like satanic imagery, which i can understand since your Christian....then simply don't listen to that kind of bands. If i were you, don't go listen to black metal and maybe be a bit picky on some death metal bands. Further more...some themes used by metal bands are "oppression, pain, dead, live, love, war and religion......just pick your favourite and don't listen to the religion ones?
If you don't like satanic movies...simply don't watch them...does that mean all 'true' movies are satanic?
If you like reading....go read the bible and don't pick up "the god delusion" by Dawkins and leave the satanic bible for what it is. Still you are a "reader" right?
To give you a tip; Bands consist of musicians called 'band members'....these are most of the time very divers people with own views of life and opinions. Some are Atheist some are Christian, some are pagan...some are satanic. Maybe you should only listen to christian metal bands? There are LOTS out there, playing 'true' metal, just for you. :-)
Oh and about the pop music thing being catchy and metal isn't so.....; the essence of metal music is the guitar drivin RIFF. Which by nature is catchy....go listen Iron Man by black sabbath, and see if it will ever get out of your head again :-) they invented it.
I hope things are more clear for you now, if not feel free to ask.
Oh and btw, i don't care most Christans are huge assholes for being short sighted and think they have this monopoly about the truths of live, so not being grouped with them is fine with me.
I bought tickets for this year tour, but the tour was canceled because of Tony Iommi's cancer treatment. Hopes are up for a world tour this coming year since he is well again!
Black Sabbath (both Dio and Ozzy)
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Dio
Rainbow (with Dio:P)
Dream Theatre
Yngwie Malmsteen
Ozzy (alone)
Bruce Dickinson (alone)
Hammerfall
Liquid Tenson
Motorhead
Stratovarius
And alot of others, though not metal, more rock/hard rock Deep Purple etc
I was going to see them in Bergen(Norway). But when it got canceled i got tickets to Motorhead insted. So it was allmoste as good;)
A shame Bill Ward will not be in the band...a huge miss, since it is not 100% Black Sabbath without Bill behind the kit. Anyway, i think i should not complain to much and just be happy to see them release new material and probaly tour afterwards. Cant freaking waaaaaaait. :-)
while Motorhead is a O.K. band to me, which i have seen lots of times and did enjoy.....its not like we should compare it to Sabbath, now should we? :-)