Firecrag legacy of bhaal
Gel87
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Yo, currently playing lvl 13 kenzai + lvl 2x thief dual class.
Been grinding my way true most(did not travel to spellhold yet).
Missing theese before i travel to spellhold:
- The floating thing with demons etc (crowled wizard quest) - Will grant me katana + 5 with mod
- Kangax(i think i can do him now, have upgraded both azuredge and mace of disrupting or what its called).
- Eyeless cult. Im missing the beholders before talking to the "god" they workship.
- Missing mind flayers in sewers as well as the portal where u find boots of speed.
This has left me with 2 x HLA.
I chose use all items, and assassination.
But how can i beat firecraag? I tried my best tanking him stright up with Celeastial Fury + Belm + Robe of Vecna + Amulet of Power + Ring +2(upgraded) + other rings + Balduran's helm.
7 traps + oil of speed + other potions + spidr + summon wand + assassination + loads of potions + resists fear and i was not able to crush him down.
So i tried 50 cloudkills from wand, but no success.... Because he healed twice when low.
How can i beat him with this setup? Do i need to level higher and use better HLA traps?
(also have Shadow Twin + Shadow Maze + Shadow xxx availeble on HLA table due to modding.
I guess i level one more by doing kangax etc and use shadow clone to freely cast greater malison for stun chance, and spell imunity, stone skin, etc for free. And possible im able to pickpocket the casomyr from him to dispel his protections :P Dno if this is possible to pickpocket.
Been grinding my way true most(did not travel to spellhold yet).
Missing theese before i travel to spellhold:
- The floating thing with demons etc (crowled wizard quest) - Will grant me katana + 5 with mod
- Kangax(i think i can do him now, have upgraded both azuredge and mace of disrupting or what its called).
- Eyeless cult. Im missing the beholders before talking to the "god" they workship.
- Missing mind flayers in sewers as well as the portal where u find boots of speed.
This has left me with 2 x HLA.
I chose use all items, and assassination.
But how can i beat firecraag? I tried my best tanking him stright up with Celeastial Fury + Belm + Robe of Vecna + Amulet of Power + Ring +2(upgraded) + other rings + Balduran's helm.
7 traps + oil of speed + other potions + spidr + summon wand + assassination + loads of potions + resists fear and i was not able to crush him down.
So i tried 50 cloudkills from wand, but no success.... Because he healed twice when low.
How can i beat him with this setup? Do i need to level higher and use better HLA traps?
(also have Shadow Twin + Shadow Maze + Shadow xxx availeble on HLA table due to modding.
I guess i level one more by doing kangax etc and use shadow clone to freely cast greater malison for stun chance, and spell imunity, stone skin, etc for free. And possible im able to pickpocket the casomyr from him to dispel his protections :P Dno if this is possible to pickpocket.
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In my lunchbreak i killed both firecraag, Kangax, Elemental Lich and I killed the guys in Rijex Basement etc :P
I think i will go get myself some demons hearth nex for katana +5 before i do anything else :P
Those fights wait me later, now I'm playing in BG1 and SoD. 😎
Can U beat Black Pits 2 at LoB difficulty‽ 🤔
Thanks, never played black pits, so no idea :P
But I have beat legacy of bhaal campain with a bounch of my kits back home.
Mage's, Sorcress is the easiest for me. Werewolf is fun if you kit them for better progression.
Solo thief is fun as well.
FMT is fun for powerplay.
But what i did this time was to Multiclass from kenzai in bg2ee, to experience it as a lvl 1 thief from start.
Last playtrough i got 2250000 xp from baldurs gate alone, this way you get HLA almost instantly in BG2 :P
But back home im currently playing a monk, kinda min maxing it. Wanted to play all kits so i just made a simple override mod and added all 3 monks into 1 xD That monk is now lvl 10 in bg1, and im gonna go for SOD as well with it, then BG2
But the most fun is usually Thief/mage or F/M/T or Solo Mage for powerlevel quickly xD
By doing basilisk exploit in bg1ee you reach inzane XP levels, and then farm some ankegg and possible some sirens. If you do SoD i think you can get HLA already there lol xD
Last time i did firecraag as solo mage on Legacy of Bhaal he was super easy, and he became so this time to when i remember about feeblemind xD
I tried to pickpocket kangaxx for 2 x rings, but i dont think that works anymore. Cause he is red instantly in bone shape.
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/87064/solo-black-pits-2-on-lob-difficulty
I had also a party of 3 different monks, who completed BP2 at level 37 (normal difficulty):
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/87892/my-three-monks-party-of-level-37
I almost didn't play SoA and ToB in recent years, planning to start new campaigns (fully random trios) soon. 😉
Also, I now play on Switch with standard XP cap. 🎓
Immagine leaving the first basilisk round as a level 10 monk, and you cannot tank a hoogoblin for a flamedance ring^^
You kinda have to treat him like a boss, and use stun and kite with sling etc xD
U are kidding but, normally, I arrive at Friendly Arm Inn at level 1 and, wanting to play kinda honestly, I indeed do these "epic fights" vs hobgoblins for Joia's flamedance ring! 😂
Solo level 1 monk vs LoB Hobgoblin would be a truly boss fight! 🤣 However, if it becomes really desperate, it's possible to attract hobgoblins into Friendly Arm Inn courtyard and get help from guards: 😜
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/88705/friendly-arm-inn-guards-finally-having-to-earn-their-pay
Yes, last time i drew that hogoblin to friendly arm in he killed all 4 or 5 guards, and it took forever xD
Usually i do this:
Pick up as much as possible candlekeep. + talk to firebead 30 times for 300gp
Pick up diamond and belt from gorion site.
Pick up ring+1 from next map.
Travel to bergeost and get free xp from marv dialog. + firebead 30 timas again for 300gp
Travel to naskel and get free xp from noober dialog + ankegg armor.
Travel to 40% fire res ring and take it from mountain + wand in tree in naskel mine map.
Travel to friendly arm in and pick up ring of wizardry
Travel to farm, accept sonner task, cornertrap and kill sonner for bowl and +1 flail.
Travel to baldur's gate bridge and do that bowl quest.
Now i do basilisk with gorax, i try to do all which can be hard on this difficulty.
After that i get the algernon cloak, i think one can charm ghorax with that one and do the rest, if not you can just find another way to do so.
Then i buy all possible scroll of stone to flesh etc.
Spending time on flamedance ring to early in LOB is rarely worth it :P
Hehe yes, but i understand you. its often fun to do those struggle fights
My Kenzai/Thief is now so strong in bg2ee that its cleaning stuff fast...
With a little tumbeling with LUA and CLAB table im now at a point where i summon my shadow copy. We both have upgraded kittrix spider, we both have 2 x time stop traps and 2 x spike traps, and he haste me and himself with improved haste from scroll, and both has katana +5 + belm and good gear and are grandmaster katana and 3 points dual wielding, with robe of vecna, ring of gax, baldurans helm etc, and both has 2 x assassination xD 4 man army strong AF xD Next level i will have yet another clone, so will be 6 man army if that works xD
Well, I guess, with HLA "Use any item", U could use something like "Imprisonment" scroll (it's better than your modded Shadow Maze) in order to eliminate some tough dudes instantly. 😎
Shadow Maze grantz zero xp, so i dont use it now.
Undead = Mace of disruption +2 and Azuredge +4.
Scroll of protection from undead is cheezy, so dont really use it.
I backstabbed them early on with katana, and usually they are in crypts so you can leave/enter/leave/enter over and over again.
Thats how i killed draxila dragon as well. Only difference is that he is immune to backstab, and it took a while and i had to load due to death or level drain several times. (did not have use all items vs him, with that feeblemind crush all dragons).
Most lich is easy with theese wepons. Back in the days i used 2 x avoid death vs kangaxx and traps and kasomyr and haste/oil of speed.
I'm waiting that U try Black Pits 2 at LoB in order to compare difficulty with respect to BG2. Buffing before fights in BP2 arena is impossible and many cheesy tactics will not work. However, there is, for example, Azuredge+3 allowing to kill a powerful vampire in 1 hit etc. 😉
One trick to kill Firkraag or make other encounters easier is to pre-cast Feeblemind with Project Image until successful. This may require reloading until the desired effect occurs.
Due to this spell's unusual and probably unintended bug - the feeblemind spell has many exploits that can be achieved in a tactical sense and to permanently pacify neutral creatures before a planned battle or to perform a theft and other actions.
I think i would have to try it at normal first xD
How do you Get items and such there?
Could be fun to to try my Skeleton fmt kit there.
Its basicly konsist of:
Kensai / Banshee - Mindflayer mage / Ninja Assassin
Ninja assassin = thief kit with all the innate albilities from all thief kits, and backstab goes to 7x and it has a few invisible innates.
Banshee is a powerfull mage, kitted so it Get 1 extra spells each level, it has Improved wail of banshee which deals crushing damage and chance to stun. From lvl 1 its only 4 damage, and saving throw +4 vs stun, but it scales well.
It also has a single target soul harvest magic damage spell, both are innates. It also has faster casting speed at certain level and above lvl 18 or so it gets albiliti to shapechange undead: greater Vampire, bone golem, greater ghast, Skeleton warrior. This is a hla in the base kit. It also had a hla for +1 to all spell levels. It has custom spells: Silver breath (pierce) and blind, and it had Thunder bolt of death (light + crush) lvl 5 and a few other spells. This fighter kit also Get a lvl 7 winged slam which deals crushing aoe.
Mindflayer has innate albilities like:
Lesser psionic blast
Psionic blast
Greater psionic blast
Psionic brain crush
Custom brain eating attack
And is a mage.
So basicly this fmt has some extra cool spells in magebook, is a solid thief and can transform to both banshee and mindflayer. The shapechange spell will change upon level and give different ammount of innate skills based on that, and all innate has level progression as well xD
You could add to that picking up Brage for church on your way to Nashkel or right after and picking up Samuels body to take him into FAI church since you're going there from the screen he's on for 1500 more exp without any fighting involved.
If you pick up an oil of speed from Imoen or Montaron or somewhere else you can easily loot the ankheg cave without any of them ever getting a chance to attack you allowing you to return the childs body to the farmer as well as getting your hands on a wand of fire.
High charisma (or high reaction, dunno) can also reward a protection from undead for returning the cat corpse to the child west of Nashkel and even if you don't use those or have lower charisma it's still another "free exp" quest early on as is finding Rufie south of Nashkel if you stick to the top of the map and go around Sendai's party.
No worries, thanks
I do a lot more, but did the short version.
The idea is to pretty much buy all availeble scroll of flesh availeble at this point to end up with around 500k xp early xD
Either pp or kill montaron, xzandar and immoen for gear. Jaheira got potion of invisible, spiders can be killed for that gnome/dwarf. But need a way to sneak past mage if early. There is a possibility to kill a Skeleton for skull and kill the wolf somehow for more xp as well for chicken revival.
Rashads talon +2 to is Nice early, ring of fire resists etc. and if lvl 5+ one can wait with montaron and på him as level 5 thief and put all pickpocket and steal/sell black market merchant in naskel for economy and algorns cloak etc.
But brage’s body is a really Nice idea
And did not knew u could loot ankeg cave without fighting. And if i talk to that farmer one more time after quest and give him 100gp i gain additional 1000 xp.
Last time i played mage i did not Even do the basilisk. I pretty much kited all. But was a banshee mage, and that crystal breath spell blinds, and once lvl 5 spells Thunderbolt of death force sleep for 9 seconds. I actually forgot about the ring of wizardry as well and it was a struggle xD stinking cloud is also epic vs adventure parties
I also remember when i solo thief on lob, i did not knew you could talk ur way out of fighting all those skeletons vs that evil cleric. It took ages to backstab all those skeletons xD
Black Pits 1&2 are stand-alone modules. I don't know whether there are mods allowing to play your specific kits in it.
All armors/items/potions/scrolls/weapons etc should be bought in Arena's shops (renewable at each Tier). BP1 is capped at 500,000 XP and BP2 at 8 millions XP. U can export/import your chars from BP1 to BP2 (without armor/items/weapons), familiars can be used only by dual-classing to mage. 😼
My best result in BP1 at LoB difficulty is a solo dual-classed Fighter9/Mage10 with Grand Mastery in bows. He progressed up to Tier III-4 (the fight with Fire Giant):
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/83123/black-pits-1-your-best-results-on-lob-difficulty
My best result in BP2 at LoB is Berserker9/Mage26, who progressed up to Tier IV-1 (6 fallen Devas), 195 HP (thanks to a familiar), grand mastery in axes:
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/87064/solo-black-pits-2-on-lob-difficulty
BP1 is beatable at LoB with some solo chars like my Fighter/Mage, not sure about BP2. 🤔
Sounds interesting
How do you rest or replenish ur skills?
Between arena fights U can rest as much as U wish. 😉