Cursed beserking weapons (Brage’s sword and Kiel’s morningstar)
Dharius
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Hi All. Has anyone managed to use these beneficially in a large party of e.g. six? I can see that they could be effective, if risky, for protected fighters and/or clerics playing solo, but otherwise I can’t see their value.
I was wondering if you know of any tactics to make these work? Thanks!
I was wondering if you know of any tactics to make these work? Thanks!
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Even within perfect conditions (such as solo), losing your ability to control your char or use items and potions is invaluable.
a priest of tyr's innate could salvage them though.
World’s Edge (sp?) +3 is a better option anyway once it’s found. I love that sword
I did a run, 6 party members, where I gave Kagain three pips in flails/morning stars and used Kiel's morning star +3 extensively.
As per @SirBatince , the Priest of Tyr's Acclamation is useful. It basically negates the beserk effect leaving you with a +3 morning star or +3 two-handed sword. But there aren't any Priest of Tyr NPCs so CHARNAME would have to be one.
The beserk status effect gives you +2 THAC0 and +2 damage I believe. In addition to making you immune to lots of bad status effects. So I was trying to use that.
It took a while but I got the hang of it.
During battles, when Kagain went beserk he would almost always target the next enemy after killing the one he was on. Which is good. Only a few times did he target a party member instead. When that happens you have to take immediate action and 'de-beserk him' (remove curse, acclamation), and then finish the fight.
What I found was, if he went beserk, he would consistently chase one of my party members after killing the last enemy. However, you just get used to identifying who he is going after and then running them away from him. Kagain quickly comes out of beserk after a few seconds and cools down. It's like a little dance you have to keep doing.
Basically, you get a very powerful weapon/character but you do have to babysit them a bit and pay attention to who they're going to attack next. It's perfectly doable.
BUT, do NOT use the weapon in areas where there are innocents around because after killing the enemy your character could well attack an innocent and you'd loose reputation. So avoid using it in towns, Inns, etc.
To be honest, I'd feel comfortable doing this even without a Priest of Tyr and only one remove curse spell memorised on my cleric.
I wouldn't use Kiel's morning star AND the cursed sword of beserking together. Because after the battle, if the two characters started attacking each other rather than a party member you can run away, I'm not sure what would happen. Your guys could get pretty damaged.
I'd like to know what makes your character go beserk with the weapon. Because it doesn't alway happen. Is it a save vs. spell? If so, is the experience of using a dwarf fighter different from doing this with a human fighter because of their shorty saving throws? Does a dwarf fighter go beserk less often? IDK. Just asking.
Still can’t see the point in bringing it to BG2 though, only as a curio...Might be useful in SOD though I suppose.
Here's a link to it https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/79713/cursed-valygar-play-through
On reflection, this may have been because the berserk state hadn't kicked in when I was bitten and so I wasn't protected but my memory of the encounter is that I was berserk and still got held.
Minsc's berserk ability uses the berserk state, like the weapons - that's why you lose control of him. Barbarian and berserker rage abilities don't.