Got my first haircut in 6 or 7 months today. Struck by the difference between this establishment and everywhere else. Here is an example of how ALL businesses should be run during this time:
1.) A mask required to enter. They will provide one, but it's mandarory.
2.) I was asked if I'd traveled or had a COVID-19 test in the last six weeks.
3.) Had to sanitize my hands.
4.) Was required to have my temperature taken.
This is a salon. If they can do this, EVERYONE can do this. The tools to do so could have been paid for by government grants or even just direct funds. But the most ANY other business I have had to enter do is ENCOURAGE masks, even though I routinely see people without them. I am CERTAIN that in places like New Zealand and South Korea, the procedure I did at the salon is the bare minimum. Here, it's the exception.
You didn't lecture them about your God-given right to recklessly endanger them? What kind of American are you?
Got my first haircut in 6 or 7 months today. Struck by the difference between this establishment and everywhere else. Here is an example of how ALL businesses should be run during this time:
1.) A mask required to enter. They will provide one, but it's mandarory.
2.) I was asked if I'd traveled or had a COVID-19 test in the last six weeks.
3.) Had to sanitize my hands.
4.) Was required to have my temperature taken.
This is a salon. If they can do this, EVERYONE can do this. The tools to do so could have been paid for by government grants or even just direct funds. But the most ANY other business I have had to enter do is ENCOURAGE masks, even though I routinely see people without them. I am CERTAIN that in places like New Zealand and South Korea, the procedure I did at the salon is the bare minimum. Here, it's the exception.
You didn't lecture them about your God-given right to recklessly endanger them? What kind of American are you?
I asked if the have had to turn anyone away because of temperature. She said a few, but oftentimes it was someone coming in from a hot car and they would allow them a few minutes to cool off. The signs are clearly posted on the outside. There are now plastic barriers in place in front of the check-in/register desk. All very deliberate, they clearly do this with everyone who comes in. It is mostly for the protection of their own employees, as they had a massive rush mid-summer when the mandated closures were lifted. I waited another 3 or 4 months, and when I looked the amount of hair on the floor, it could have been a small animal.
The only places I see taking this seriously that I have been to are the grocery store (they "require" masks but I often see people without them, but all employees do wear them at all times, and MOST patrons do), the pharmacy (this is obvious, as most people who are visiting are old or taking medication to control a medical condition), and now the salon, which was far and away more stringent than the other two.
The gym has nothing but a "senior hour" from 2-3pm (as I've mentioned before I self-isolate there by going after 10pm). The local Family Dollar store (basically an off-brand Wal-Mart) says they require them but no one does, not even the employees. I've stopped the liquor store a couple times because you get a free bag of ice if you make a purchase (I usually just get a couple 20 oz. sodas) and neither the employees or patrons wear them. The library branch in the same complex requires them. It's basically split between businesses doing something, and doing absolutely nothing.
To be fair, that salon is working with "this person will be in close contact with an employee for a significant length of time". For an ordinary retail establishment, less stringent procedures are appropriate. Still, masks should be required outright. They're the sort of measure where it really has to be universal to work properly.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
Alas, such has always been the nature of humanity. Despite all of centuries of technological, medical and sociological progress, the fundamental nature of humanity itself is little changed from our prehistoric forebears.
Trump has the virus. What a surprise. Reliance on testing alone, with the known unreliability of the tests had predictable results. Color me not shocked. Moron...
In my children's middle school they have quarantined 60 students and 2 teachers. One positive teacher has been confirmed.
They still haven't cancelled the traditional 6th graders' ski camp that's supposed to take place in January. They seriously still consider taking 60 kids on a bus from Germany to Austria for 5 days if the regulations allow it. I keep telling my daughter not to get her hopes up. I'm seriously considering keeping her out of it even if travel restrictions won't apply.
Sounds kinda scary. I am sure your anxiety level went through the roof. Bus ride, sleeping arrangements, kind of a lot of confinement with other people. Also, I have only ever went skiing one weekend in my life on Zugspitze(don’t ask, I was basically the fastest snowball on the mountain) maybe not the same but you took train to get there, my one friend that I went with says her children use the sky tram to get there now, can’t imagine that is any less risky from a COVID standpoint. I would not think that being on the slopes is very risky for COVID but the rest seems kind of scary. Hard decision, your children’s happiness or their safety but I suppose we have been living with that for a while. I feel for you.
I was wondering when some news would come about about the Russian vaccine. Apparently it was good enough for Putin's youngest daughter to take it but he's still 'thinking about it'...
Starting from next Monday, we effectively get another lockdown in Germany for (at least) the whole of November: Corona Winter is coming. Yaaaay~.... *sigh*
As England (but not the rest of the UK) is about to enter a new lockdown from Thursday, I find the following section of lyrics, from "Ruby Tuesday" by the Stones, to be rather appropriate -
Don't question why she needs to be so free
She'll tell you it's the only way to be
She just can't be chained
To a life where nothing's gained
Or nothing's lost, at such a cost
While true I would think that the USA and Canada should also be concerned as mink are native to both countries. It is probably analogous to the situation with the plague (Yersinia pestis) being in the wildlife near San Francisco.
Well my family just became a COVID statist. My wife's every other Monday test came back negative, she got sick that night. Went to the doctor Tuesday ran new test got the call Thursday night her new test was positive. So my 23 year twin sons and I got to the doctor today to get tested and waiting 2 days for our results. So my wife is out of work until at least next Friday since her work figures it was late last week when she was infected. My boys are out until the 20th and my 17 daughter is out of school until the 30th since we can not all quarantine with no contact, no separate bathroom for 5 people. Now I have to worry for the next 2 weeks if one or all of us are going to end up in the hospital or dead because we all have autoimmune issues. I never could stand the current President, but now I've worry if I might lose some of my family or they might lose me. The US needed to walk his herd mentally and forget the science backside out of the White House and into a prison cell.
@jonesr65: I'm so sorry to hear that. That's a horrific situation. I hope you all can manage the virus load... maybe masks in the house could help (even a slight decrease in the viruses transmitted could be really important) even if total safety isn't an option.
@jonesr65: I'm so sorry to hear that. That's a horrific situation. I hope you all can manage the virus load... maybe masks in the house could help (even a slight decrease in the viruses transmitted could be really important) even if total safety isn't an option.
This. Additionally, @jonesr65 , stick to the usual rules of opening the windows frequently but briefly (depending on your climate zone), washing hands, taking meals separately if possible, etc... But also keep in mind the psychological impact that distancing from the infected family member might have, and quarantine per se on the whole family. Communication is important.
Thank you all. We've been trying do to all that, I feel once I get my wife thru the next few days she will get thru it and so far the rest of us any symptoms we had are fading. I am still worried about the long term effects, she has Lupus and an autonomic disorder, I have undifferentiated connective tissue disease, and my daughter has psoriatic arthritis and a son with an eating disorder. They just don't know what the long term affect even a minor case will have on our health. I just have pray we all get better along with everyone that has had it, has it, and will get it.
There's an optimistic announcement by Pfizer and BioNTech today that their vaccine appears to be more effective than expected. There's an awful long way to go with a host of questions to be answered, e.g.
- how effectiveness declines with age
- how long protection lasts
- whether the vaccine prevents people acting as carriers as well as getting infected
- how effective it will be against mutated strains of the SARS virus
However, it still seems to be a major step forward .
We are still months if not half a year away from any chance of a widespread vaccine. In the short-term, we are still looking at a pending disaster in the US, especially with what will be an absentee lame-duck President for the next 2 1/2 months.
Well all three of my COVID test for my boys and myself came back negative, but my symptoms keep getting a worse over the last few days. Just going to have wait it out and see if any of us do get worse.
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You didn't lecture them about your God-given right to recklessly endanger them? What kind of American are you?
I asked if the have had to turn anyone away because of temperature. She said a few, but oftentimes it was someone coming in from a hot car and they would allow them a few minutes to cool off. The signs are clearly posted on the outside. There are now plastic barriers in place in front of the check-in/register desk. All very deliberate, they clearly do this with everyone who comes in. It is mostly for the protection of their own employees, as they had a massive rush mid-summer when the mandated closures were lifted. I waited another 3 or 4 months, and when I looked the amount of hair on the floor, it could have been a small animal.
The only places I see taking this seriously that I have been to are the grocery store (they "require" masks but I often see people without them, but all employees do wear them at all times, and MOST patrons do), the pharmacy (this is obvious, as most people who are visiting are old or taking medication to control a medical condition), and now the salon, which was far and away more stringent than the other two.
The gym has nothing but a "senior hour" from 2-3pm (as I've mentioned before I self-isolate there by going after 10pm). The local Family Dollar store (basically an off-brand Wal-Mart) says they require them but no one does, not even the employees. I've stopped the liquor store a couple times because you get a free bag of ice if you make a purchase (I usually just get a couple 20 oz. sodas) and neither the employees or patrons wear them. The library branch in the same complex requires them. It's basically split between businesses doing something, and doing absolutely nothing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/us/mask-protests-1918.amp.html
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
I liked the ‘open faced sneezers to be arrested’
Just imagine that today.
Alas, such has always been the nature of humanity. Despite all of centuries of technological, medical and sociological progress, the fundamental nature of humanity itself is little changed from our prehistoric forebears.
Helsinki airport uses sniffer dogs to detect Covid
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Sounds kinda scary. I am sure your anxiety level went through the roof. Bus ride, sleeping arrangements, kind of a lot of confinement with other people. Also, I have only ever went skiing one weekend in my life on Zugspitze(don’t ask, I was basically the fastest snowball on the mountain) maybe not the same but you took train to get there, my one friend that I went with says her children use the sky tram to get there now, can’t imagine that is any less risky from a COVID standpoint. I would not think that being on the slopes is very risky for COVID but the rest seems kind of scary. Hard decision, your children’s happiness or their safety but I suppose we have been living with that for a while. I feel for you.
5 things scientists now know about COVID-19 — and 5 they’re still figuring out
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/27/health/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-sputnik-v-reality-check/index.html
I'm glad I moved in a house out of the city since the first lockdown and will be able to enjoy a garden...
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Looks like folks over here do garden decorations for corona second season now.
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I agree it's a concern. The UK has responded by adding Denmark to the list of countries from which travelers returning need to go into quarantine.
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This. Additionally, @jonesr65 , stick to the usual rules of opening the windows frequently but briefly (depending on your climate zone), washing hands, taking meals separately if possible, etc... But also keep in mind the psychological impact that distancing from the infected family member might have, and quarantine per se on the whole family. Communication is important.
I wish you the best. Take care.
- how effectiveness declines with age
- how long protection lasts
- whether the vaccine prevents people acting as carriers as well as getting infected
- how effective it will be against mutated strains of the SARS virus
However, it still seems to be a major step forward
This vaccine needs to be stored and shipped at -80c so logistics will be slightly complicated.
First doses will be for healthcare workers.
https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/hospital-ceo-david-musyj-under-quarantine-after-crossing-border-to-get-patient-meds