I think the idea is both of those classes require fine finger dexterity to practice their craft. While the Gauntles of Ogre Power are more like something from a heavy suit of armor.
I think the idea is both of those classes require fine finger dexterity to practice their craft. While the Gauntles of Ogre Power are more like something from a heavy suit of armor.
This explains why you never see an ogre playing the harp.
Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...
You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
Actually fighting monk is indeed a priest kit (gains a bunch of bonuses with unarmed attacks, requires light armor (base AC no greater then 8), gains their wis save bonus as an AC bonus, slight movement speed bonus, no turn undead, and slower spell progression with only a handful of spheres).
(though the BG monk is pretty much word for word from the Oriental Adventures monk...which is pretty much a thief (only real difference is that OA monk gets ALL thief skills (Samurai will NOT work with a ninja, so monks are the only way to get thief like skills into a Honorable group), but only 15 points per level), and their benefits come faster but are slightly weaker (and it has a cap of level 17, since choosing to level up to 18 as a monk results in your character attaining nirvana and leaving the world).
I think the idea is both of those classes require fine finger dexterity to practice their craft. While the Gauntles of Ogre Power are more like something from a heavy suit of armor.
Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...
You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
Well, Thief and Rogue are more or less interchangeable in RPG terms really...
Well... While they may not be directly listed... Bards are technically a thief class...
You're probably thinking of "rogue", a term sometimes used when referring to bards and thieves (not sure if this is an official term or something that people just started using out of convenience). Similar to the "warrior" (referring to fighters, paladins, and rangers) and "priest" (clerics and druids).
Well, Thief and Rogue are more or less interchangeable in RPG terms really...
Yeah, but I was referring to BG (and D&D) in particular (specifically 2E, as I believe thieves were renamed rogues in 3E).
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I suppose I'll just have to give my bard the girdle of giant strength, then...
No they're not.
Yeah, it's sort of weird...I can see them being Warriors, or Priests. But, philosophy overrides punchy, in many cases...
(though the BG monk is pretty much word for word from the Oriental Adventures monk...which is pretty much a thief (only real difference is that OA monk gets ALL thief skills (Samurai will NOT work with a ninja, so monks are the only way to get thief like skills into a Honorable group), but only 15 points per level), and their benefits come faster but are slightly weaker (and it has a cap of level 17, since choosing to level up to 18 as a monk results in your character attaining nirvana and leaving the world).
Dude and dudettes: they're magic.