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Alignments for Rasaad, Neera, and Dorn?

MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356
I haven't seen anything yet stating their specific alignments, but I would like to see what people think they might be. Obviously, Rasaad will either be Lawful Good or Lawful Neutral and Dorn will be of an evil alignment. My predictions are:

Rasaad: Lawful Good, given his quote: "In the face of lies, we offer truth. In the face of hatred, we offer compassion."

Neera: Chaotic Neutral, since "she finds both delight and terror in her capricious magic."

Dorn: Neutral Evil, since he "lusts for revenge and glory in equal measure."
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  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    I think you're right about Rasaad since monks had to be of lawful alignment and you're right in that his quote offers of a glimpse of who he is.

    I think Neera from what I've read sounds more like Chaotic Good

    Dorn I actually think is most likely to be Chaotic Evil since Trent said in the 10-6 podcast that all Dorn cares about is power.
  • Jean_LucJean_Luc Member Posts: 228
    I'd like to know as well. I was hoping Neera would be ch-good since she also feels guilty about the damage she's done and is trying to set things right more or less but since Rasaad seems undeniably good from his description it might make more sense for Neera to be neutral.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    It sounds silly if all dorn cares about is power if you're able to romance him
  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    @Xavioria except he might feel that romancing a Bhaalspawn might increase his power. I cannot speak to his romantic intentions yet.
  • LordsDarkKnight185LordsDarkKnight185 Member Posts: 615
    no, all dorn cares about is revenge again those who used him like a scape goat, its close but not quite the same thing. Power is simply a means to an end.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    @Dragonspear that actually would make a lot of sense, except for the fact that neither of you know about being a bhaalspawn until late in the game. If that's when the romance starts, then that sounds like a crappy romance to me.
    You are right though, none of us know much about his true intentions and at this time all we can do is speculate.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356
    edited August 2012

    I think you're right about Rasaad since monks had to be of lawful alignment and you're right in that his quote offers of a glimpse of who he is.

    I think Neera from what I've read sounds more like Chaotic Good

    Dorn I actually think is most likely to be Chaotic Evil since Trent said in the 10-6 podcast that all Dorn cares about is power.

    What made me think of Neera as being Chaotic Neutral was the dual-nature of her magic.

    Dorn's path of "revenge and glory" seems to be he's determined to accomplish it, no matter if he's alone or with a group.
  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    @Mortianna you're right about the dual nature of her magic but she seems to regret when it causes harm. That would seem to lend itself more towards a good outlook than neutral one.

    @Xavioria he might simply be attracted to the characters overall strength/power at first. Not only is the PC usually the strongest player in a group, but you also start getting some of your initial bhaalspawn powers in Nashkel so we'll see. I'm definitely interested to see how it'll play out. Especially since it'll be either an Elf or a Halfling romancing a Half-Orc.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356
    edited August 2012
    @Dragonspear Maybe she did some evil things in Rashemann, and she's seeking to atone for them by seeking a new path. How about Chaotic Neutral with good tendencies? :-)

    Imagine the amount of complexity there would be if they incorporated alignment tendencies into the game.

    *edited for typos--Mortianna is Lawful, after all.
  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    @Mortianna I think incoporating alignment tendencies into the game would be a relative nightmare.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    @Dragonspear I wholeheartedly agree that Dorn's romance is going to be interesting to say the least. It's definitely the one I'm looking forward to the most.
  • Jean_LucJean_Luc Member Posts: 228
    Xavioria said:

    @Dragonspear I wholeheartedly agree that Dorn's romance is going to be interesting to say the least. It's definitely the one I'm looking forward to the most.

    You naughty, naughty, gir.....person.

  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356

    @Xavioria he might simply be attracted to the characters overall strength/power at first. Not only is the PC usually the strongest player in a group, but you also start getting some of your initial bhaalspawn powers in Nashkel so we'll see. I'm definitely interested to see how it'll play out. Especially since it'll be either an Elf or a Halfling romancing a Half-Orc.

    The "outcome" of a Half-Orc and Elf or Halfling romance certainly brings all kinds of odd scenarios to mind.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356

    @Mortianna I think incoporating alignment tendencies into the game would be a relative nightmare.

    Especially if alignments became gradients instead of fixed poles. I don't think anyone would want "Generally Lawful-Evil with moderate Lawful Neutral tendencies" on their character's profile.

  • SilverstarSilverstar Member Posts: 2,207
    My guess is Lawful Evil or Neutral Evil for Dorn, Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral for Neera and Lawful Good for Rasaad.
  • MornmagorMornmagor Member Posts: 1,160
    I think the monk is Lawful Good, because he speaks of compassion.

    Neera, well, either Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Good.

    As for Dorn, i imagine the powerhungry stereotype of Neutral Evil, but i would say that, if Blackguards are considered Knights in the game, no matter how unholy, he might have his own code and thus be Lawful instead.

    Anyway, more or less what everyone else expected.
  • XavioriaXavioria Member Posts: 874
    As long as Dorn is not chaotic evil, I'm good. the only chaotic evil person I like is Xzar and Sarevok. I think I would prefer neutral evil, but lawful evil works too :)
  • The_New_RomanceThe_New_Romance Member Posts: 839

    I assumed from the character descriptions that it would be this:

    Neera: CG
    Rashaad: LN
    Dorn: NE

    Altough I could see it shaking out like the OP had it.

    This. I bet they will have one of each alignment, and the above way even covers the whole Law-Chaos axis as well.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356

    I assumed from the character descriptions that it would be this:

    Neera: CG
    Rashaad: LN
    Dorn: NE

    Altough I could see it shaking out like the OP had it.

    This. I bet they will have one of each alignment, and the above way even covers the whole Law-Chaos axis as well.
    I could see Rasaad as LN as well. Especially since Xan is the only other LN character in the game.
  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    Rasaad as lawful neutral wouldn't be that off but would be a slight surprise based upon his quote.

    The other reason I think of Dorn as chaotic evil is that Blackguards in AD&D were seen (if I remember correctly) as pretty much an Anti-Paladin which would make them Chaotic Evil. That said I've also heard of plenty of blackguards in 3E and 3.5E that were lawful evil. Dorn can really go any which way in evil and fit it in. It's just how much he cares about staying within the bounds of the law around him.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    edited August 2012
    Lawful can mean also faithful adherence to the code of an evil organization.
  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356

    Rasaad as lawful neutral wouldn't be that off but would be a slight surprise based upon his quote.

    Agreed about Rasaad. Lawful neutrals aren't so much concerned with compassion or heartlessness as they are about order and discipline.

    That said I've also heard of plenty of blackguards in 3E and 3.5E that were lawful evil. Dorn can really go any which way in evil and fit it in. It's just how much he cares about staying within the bounds of the law around him.

    I see lawful as not being so much about observing the laws of the land (since different societies have different laws, and in some cases diametrically-opposing laws). Lawfulness is more about order, loyalty, duty, honor (however subjectively defined), tradition, rules, and following some personal code of behavior. Lawful evil people/beings seek to follow or impose a system of order as well as to adhere to a personal code. They define their own terms and live by them (as opposed to the randomness of chaotic evil), and couldn't give a damn whether someone likes it or not, or if people suffer because of their actions.

    I've always seen mafia bosses a good examples of lawful evil. They have a strong loyalty to "the family," establish a clearly-defined hierarchy, observe defined codes of conduct (ala "Casino": you don't have sex with your friends' wives unless you wanna get whacked), and see a society's laws as restrictions to work around and use to their advantage. They adhere to the letter, not the spirit, of the rules they impose and observe.
  • eainterplayeainterplay Member Posts: 55

    Rasaad as lawful neutral wouldn't be that off but would be a slight surprise based upon his quote.

    Yeah the quote is hard to make fit with the LN philosophy, but it starts with "in the face of lies, we offer truth" which is about as LN as one can get (truth above all else). Also, I'm guessing since he is the only one available to ipad users (for free) they would make him neutral so he could be apart of any party.

    The confusing part is he is from a monastery devoted to Selune who is CG which doesn't match with any lawful alignment.

  • MortiannaMortianna Member Posts: 1,356
    The confusing part is he is from a monastery devoted to Selune who is CG which doesn't match with any lawful alignment.
    Selune's monks can be LG or LN. Although it is strange that a chaotic goddess would have a monastic order.

  • FinellachFinellach Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2012
    Well as for the female elf mage she is mentioned to be a 'Wild Mage' and as far as I can remember default for 'Wild Mages' was Chaotic Neutral so that wouldn't surprise me.

    And as for the half-orc I agree he is definitely evil, however his power grab and revenge thing can be equally fitted in both CE and NE alignments. We will simply have to wait since we don't have sufficient information.

    Same thing about the monk. He is defo LN or LG but to be more specific than that we will have to have more than just one quote....something which reveals more of his personality.
  • JaxsbudgieJaxsbudgie Member Posts: 600
    Dorn likes power eh? I wonder what Vicionia will have to say about that.
  • DragonspearDragonspear Member Posts: 1,838
    @Jaxbudgie she'll prolly just cast hold person then laugh at him.
  • JaxsbudgieJaxsbudgie Member Posts: 600
    Dorn likes power eh? I wonder what Vicionia will have to say about that.

    @Jaxbudgie she'll prolly just cast hold person then laugh at him.

    Probably!
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