Ah yes, I remember that post well. I gave you a serious, non-insulting point by point response to it. The one you ignored completely so you could pick fights with other people in the thread and complain you were being oppressed.
Why would that be, if you were interested in legitimate, respectful discussion? Mysteries.
The funny part is that, in the end, i'm not even against the content, but "my request" of more content apparently offend some ppl,
Serious question:
Has it ever occurred to you to maybe wonder why your request might have offended some people? Given that you play, y'know, role-playing games, have you ever taken a moment to try and get inside the head of those that disagree with you and understand where they're coming from?
Because I guarantee that if you do, "they're all fascist" will come up as the answer surprisingly rarely.
@semiticgod: I wouldn't put too much stock in kamuizin's hysteria - his idea of persecution is when people disagree with him.
For the record, the links he so helpfully put up demonstrate that 1) he suggested a "prejudice quest" for Mizhena so players could act transphobic without penalty, and 2) he approved of Dorn being the same-sex romance because he'd be the most likely to rape other party members.
No one's ever censored him for those comments, nor should they: as I always say, small-minded trolls always tell on themselves. You might as well let them.
@semiticgod: I wouldn't put too much stock in kamuizin's hysteria - his idea of persecution is when people disagree with him.
For the record, the links he so helpfully put up demonstrate that 1) he suggested a "prejudice quest" for Mizhena so players could act transphobic without penalty, and 2) he approved of Dorn being the same-sex romance because he'd be the most likely to rape other party members.
No one's ever censored him for those comments, nor should they: as I always say, small-minded trolls always tell on themselves. You might as well let them.
1) Without penalty comes from your twisted mind dude. If there's any penalty or not it's up to the devs if said forbidden content ever come to be made.
2) provide source (don't forget the context when you do), please.
@kamuizin: I actually remember the comment by @shawne you mentioned, and in the interests of honesty, I'll say that I was not impressed. Calling somebody a miserable cretin or a small-minded troll is a violation of the site rules and adds nothing to the discussion. I was not a mod at the time, but I can confirm now that the mods noticed what happened and decided to proceed with a warning, which is the standard response to the problem in question. The mods did not turn a blind eye.
A warning, by the way, is not just a personal message without any impact. It's an actual sanction, and multiple warnings can trigger a ban. The mods are in fact paying attention to these things and taking action. The reason you haven't seen it, @kamuizin, is because warnings are supposed to be private.
I actually feel bad for disclosing this one. I only mention it because it's important that both of you understand this:
It does not matter which position you are taking. It does not matter if you're supporting Beamdog. It does not matter if you're agreeing with a moderator or developer. Everyone is required to abide by the site rules.
@kamuizin: I actually remember the comment by @shawne you mentioned, and in the interests of honesty, I'll say that I was not impressed. Calling somebody a miserable cretin or a small-minded troll is a violation of the site rules and adds nothing to the discussion.
Whereas calling people feminazis and fascists just breathes so much life into the discourse. *rolleye*
@semiticgod: I wouldn't put too much stock in kamuizin's hysteria - his idea of persecution is when people disagree with him.
For the record, the links he so helpfully put up demonstrate that 1) he suggested a "prejudice quest" for Mizhena so players could act transphobic without penalty, and 2) he approved of Dorn being the same-sex romance because he'd be the most likely to rape other party members.
No one's ever censored him for those comments, nor should they: as I always say, small-minded trolls always tell on themselves. You might as well let them.
1) Without penalty comes from your twisted mind dude. If there's any penalty or not it's up to the devs if said forbidden content ever come to be made.
2) provide source (don't forget the context when you do), please.
I'd prefer Dorn being the gay romance as i feel him more inclined to force his will over others, he's probally not the kind of person that care or accept rejection, if he want it woe to anyone in his patch.
Ok, people, I think it's time to close this thread, as it stopped being about the topic of OP many comments ago. And it's really a pity, and all involved will be held are guilty, because this thread has offered a major update on the topic that had been hot since the SoD release.
For the future, I advice to discuss things about moderators' actions / report consequences in PMs only, not on public.
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Why would that be, if you were interested in legitimate, respectful discussion? Mysteries. Serious question:
Has it ever occurred to you to maybe wonder why your request might have offended some people? Given that you play, y'know, role-playing games, have you ever taken a moment to try and get inside the head of those that disagree with you and understand where they're coming from?
Because I guarantee that if you do, "they're all fascist" will come up as the answer surprisingly rarely.
For the record, the links he so helpfully put up demonstrate that 1) he suggested a "prejudice quest" for Mizhena so players could act transphobic without penalty, and 2) he approved of Dorn being the same-sex romance because he'd be the most likely to rape other party members.
No one's ever censored him for those comments, nor should they: as I always say, small-minded trolls always tell on themselves. You might as well let them.
Anyway @semiticgod, that "different person" mentioned isn't this gentle fellow 2 posts above, just to say.
2) provide source (don't forget the context when you do), please.
But should you ever actually want to have a respectful discussion, instead of sneering and insulting at each other, we could give it a try.
A warning, by the way, is not just a personal message without any impact. It's an actual sanction, and multiple warnings can trigger a ban. The mods are in fact paying attention to these things and taking action. The reason you haven't seen it, @kamuizin, is because warnings are supposed to be private.
I actually feel bad for disclosing this one. I only mention it because it's important that both of you understand this:
It does not matter which position you are taking. It does not matter if you're supporting Beamdog. It does not matter if you're agreeing with a moderator or developer. Everyone is required to abide by the site rules.
will be heldare guilty, because this thread has offered a major update on the topic that had been hot since the SoD release.For the future, I advice to discuss things about moderators' actions / report consequences in PMs only, not on public.