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The Complete (?) quest entry buglist and many other things (updated v0.4599)

ankhegankheg Member Posts: 546
edited January 2013 in BG:EE Bugs (v1.2)
@Balquo , @Avenger_teambg as I promised


Complete (?) quest entry buglist v0.4599
This is based on my playtrough. It contains mainly quest entry and quest realted bugs and some other useful things. I didn't checked the "normal" journal problems though there are a lot of them too like inconsistencies, and date problem not to mention the scrolling mechanism. I also wrote some advices

Note: If I wrote "OK" to a quest it doesn't mean I cheked all the possible solutions. I tried to do all the quests but there is always a possibility that I missed some.

Some of the entries in the "quest" section aren't in order. For example in the "Laerta and Louise" the first entry is about Old Gervisse which is illogical since you can't talk him before you talked the girls. And the entry about talking the girls is just the second. Unfortunately I could not write these bugs because most of the quests are gone after they are finished.

Reactivation= quest entries reappear after the quest is already finished. (talking with npcs, hearing rumours etc.) There is much more of this type of bug, but I cannot get all of them.

Prologue:
Dreppin's Cow: OK
Phlydia's Book: OK
Hull's Sword: OK
An Errand for Fuller: OK
(I would love a entry for Elvenhair's quest)

Chapter One:
Mirianne's Husband: no "done quest" entry (it's in the journal section)
Perdue's Short Sword: no "done quest" entry (or not everytime?)
A Book for Firebead: OK
A Fair Reward: OK (was this the quest's name too?)
Joia's Flamedance Ring: OK
Landrin and the Spiders: All the Landrin related quests have they own entries (Landrin's Husband's Old Boots, Landrin's Wine) Suggestion: One title would enough with three possible entries and the quest should finish only with when all the items are collected.
Zhurlong's Missing Boots: OK
(No quest entry for Garrick?)

Chapter Two:
Oublek the Bounty Officer: probably bugged entries if you kill Brage, maybe it should be merged with "Prism the Sculptor"
Kylee's Dagger: OK
Investigating the Nashkel Mines: no "done quest" entry should merged with "Troubles in the Region"
Rescuing Dynaheir: The most bugged entry :)

Chapter Three:
A child in the Lighthouse: OK
A New Suit of Armor: OK
Albert and His Dog: OK
Ankheg Culling: OK
Arcand the Mad: OK
Bassilus the Murderer: OK
Brage's Life Spared: (original quest entry's name is different)
Confronting Tranzig: OK
Drienne's Cat: OK
Dryad of the Cloud Peaks: OK
Fahrtington's Scroll: OK
Farmer Brun's Missing Son:OK
Half-ogres Near Beregost: OK
Jared and the Bear: OK
Joseph's Wife: OK (will the ring no longer vanish?)
Melicamp Restored: three different titles one quest ("Melicamp's Transformation") Madness Most Foul - reactivation
Ogre Hunting: OK
Prism the Sculptor: quest entry will remain in the quest section
Samuel and Lena: OK
Tamah Rescued: OK
The Firewine Ruins: quest entry will remain in the quest section, reactivation by a hunter
The Fishermen and the Priestess: OK
The Ghostly Knights of Firewine: finishes only if you give them the armor, the vampire sword solution will remove the quest. Need to be checked though.
The Gibberling Hordes: OK
Troubles in the Region: quest entry will remain in the quest section, again it should be merged with "Investigating the Nashkel Mines" reactivation by Bentley (?)
Ulcaster's Ghost: OK
Xan: OK
Branwen Rescued: no "done quest" entry
Prisoner of the Gnolls: look for Rescuing Dynaheir! (no finish/bugged etc.)
Tazok and the Bandits: no "done quest" entry, possible reactivation from Kivan or bandit in one of the tents in bandit camp
Winter Wolf Pelts: there is no way to finish (will buy ALL the pelts forever)
Xvart Raids: no "done quest" entry after killing the xvart village, reactivated by the cow-owner whos cow was attacked by xvarts

Chapter Four:
Aldeth Sashentar: OK (reward?)
Spiders in the Cloakwood: OK
A Hidden Base in the Cloakwood: no "done quest" entry merge with "Flooding the Cloakwood Mine"
Edwin and Dynaheir: look for Rescuing Dynaheir! (no finish/bugged etc.)
advice: what about Coran and the Wyvern quest? No quest entry, possible reactivation! What about talking Kelddath?

Chapter Five:
A Bard's Request: OK
A Contract Killing: OK
A Corpse for Arkion: should be merged with Arkion and Nemphre, Arkion's Bloodstone Amulet
Alatos and the Thieves' Guild: no "done quest" entry, should be merged with "Niklos's Master"
Algernon's Cloak: OK
Arkion and Nemphre: look for " A Corpse for Arkion"
Arkion's Bloodstone Amulet: look for " A Corpse for Arkion"
Basilisk on the Loose: OK
Brielbara's Baby: OK
Cordyr and the Sirines: OK
Flooding the Cloakwood Mine: merge with "A Hidden Base in the Cloakwood"
G'axir the Seer: OK
Ghorak the Cured: OK
Investigating the Merchant's League Estate: OK
Larceny at the Hall of Wonders: OK
Marek and Lothander: OK (suggestion: do something with the finish! only the character who picked the potion will have the cure graphic effect, the other potions won't vanish but they are cured nonetheless, and they dont' have a number unless you put them in the quickslot bar, then you can see the "charges" in the gaming screen)
Missing Citizens: OK (Scar will accept both of the rings you can find there on the Ogre and on near the corpses. What about other similar rings?)
Narlen's Heist: OK
Petrine's Cat: OK
Quinn's Friend: OK (It's easy to sell the dagger of Nester, or just let it vanish on the ankheg's corpse, should do something about that!)
Shlimes and Oozshes: OK
The Helm of Balduran: OK (If you talked Quenash before the quest she won't give you the Cloak dialog after you have the scroll, Invisible Stalkers in Degrodel's House will be visible if they attack)
The Seven Suns: OK
Tremain's Son: OK (two bodies, mentioned already)
Zombie Infestation: OK
Rasaad: "The Enemies of My Friend" entry remains in the "quest" section
Neera: OK Magreb's diaglog is inconsistent, and no quest entry for that (it's interesting that non-quest related dialogs with Neera will be in the journal while Dorn's in the quest section)
Investigating the Iron Throne: no "done quest" entry
Kagain's Quest:???
Laerta and Louise: "done quest" entry is missing sometimes
Niklos's Master: no "done quest" entry, should be merged with "Alatos and the Thieves' Guild"
Dorn Il-Khan: no "done quest" entry, normal non-quest realted dialogs goes here too (unlike Neera's) If you kill Kryll before speaking with Taris you gonna have a bad time! (Taris remains in the Inn, some point she will just vanish without the dialog with her husband)
Gurke's Cloak: OK
The Captive Nymph: OK (What about Ramazith?)
Nadine and Euric: no "done quest" entry

Chapter Six:
A Curious Business Proposal: OK (are those runestones good for something?)
Farthing's Dolly: "done quest" entry ONLY!
Flowers of Delainy: OK
Jondal's Murder: OK
Karoug and the Wolfweres: OK (Karoug is bugged like hell, already mentioned though. UPDATE: after reading other topics I am not sure anymore... maybe I became a worse player than before)
Maralee's Child: OK
Palin and the Monsters: OK
Return to Candlekeep: OK
The Mysterious Island: reamains in the "quest" section too should be merged with Sea Charts and The Reculsive Scholar
The Reculsive Scholar: remains in the "quest" section too, there is some parts in the "journal" section too
The Sea Charts: OK
advices: There are no entries fot Dradeel's quest!

Chapter Seven:
Dalton Rescued: OK should be merged with: "Therella's Missing Son"
Duke Eltan's Illnes: mulitple reactivation, and inconsinstent dialogs after rescued, remains in "quest" section
Eldoth and Skie: OK
Recovering "Solultaker": OK
Scar's Death: No original quest entry!
The Four Warders: OK
Therella's Missing Son: Look for "Dalton Rescued"
Tamoko: OK
Durlag's Tower: no "done quest" entry (maybe should be merged with Recovering "Solultaker")
Slythe and Krystin: no "done quest" entry
Tandem in Extremis: no "done quest" entry
The Rise of Sarevok: no "done quest" entry (some of these last three could be merged I guess)
The Great Book of Unknowing: no "quest" entry only "done quest"

Other problems:
Important Events:???
Hussam can be missing from the Elfsong tavern (whatever you said to him)
"Kiel" isn't a good answer for the statue if you have started with this.
Jalantha Mistmyr's talk will be inconsistent if you already stole the book of Wisdom.
No background by the Werewolf Island epilogue.
Wyrm's crossing map: The road remains cut in the map after you can enter the city.
Kolvar:???
No lines for kicking out Imoen? Only after talking her again? (could be random glitch)
Treacle in black pits has female voice (same goes for the thayan guardians in Adoy's place)
Deafness, you can get in black pits during the "gift of the ogre mage" can be permanent (deafness and slow are also unaffected by magic resistance)
Popup scrolls can act funny when the screen becomes black
Theoretical bug (but tested): clerics with high wisdom (19+) and high level (18+) and with a single Ring of Holiness are able to get more than 12 slots, so you can have invisible slots just like with a mage coud with two ring on wizardrys in original BG
Many weapons have bad bonus settings. Try to hit the Rakshasa and see.
Missing wolf paperdoll in wildsurges 47 and 13 (16 and 83 are not tested) zombie ring too
Bad medium shield icon in tutorial
Boo won't squeak in the tutorial (same goes for BG2)
Permanent Shillelagh
Possible problems by importing characters with Drizzt's items/Ring of Koveras (not tested yet)
Scimitar+2/zombie ring will gone from Cloakwood
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Comments

  • TemplarTemplar Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2012
    1st problem:
    There is no slider in this journal.
    Solution:
    There should be one.

    2nd problem:
    When holding down the left mousebutton, you can drag the text upwards or downwards. If you try to scroll up on the page, when you let go of the left mouse button it automatically opens the tab where you can edit journal entries. To avoid it you need to click between journal entries, but it requires some "pixel hunting". This only happens when you want to scroll upwards. When scrolling down it works fine.
    Solution:
    When scrolling upwards you should be able to click the journal text without the editing-tab opens up.

    3rd problem:
    Journal entries are shown with newest entries on the top of the page, and oldest on the bottom. You need to scroll to get the latest entries.
    Solution:
    The journal entries should be sorted from oldest on top, to newest on bottom, or through different sorting options (By name, by oldest, by newest)
    Post edited by Templar on
  • bigdogchrisbigdogchris Member Posts: 1,336
    I absolutely agree on the Journal issue. I was going to post that myself.

    Keep in mind the issue with with the "Journal" portion, not the quest log. The Journal is very hard to scroll when there are large text entries on screen. There is almost no where to click to grab, but when you do click to grab it's almost always grabbing text to edit.

    A scroll bar and mouse wheel support would fix this issue 100%.
  • Whitewind617Whitewind617 Member Posts: 9
    I immediately noticed this, it makes navigating that journal a living hell.

    For the 3rd problem, I remember that BG2 allowed you to switch between various sorting methods for the journal, such as newest, oldest, alphabetical, etc. Why was this feature removed?
  • ZeckulZeckul Member Posts: 1,036
    All of these are known issues. But thanks for the report anyway!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited December 2012
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  • MorrandirrMorrandirr Member Posts: 60
    I'm having a similar problem, though it seems to occur with the NPc-quests (Rasaad, Neera). I get a message "Journal updates: bla bla", but I can't find anything in the journal, neither in the quests tab, nore in the journal tab.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    @Balquo @Tanthalas Move this to Bugs.
  • Leftnt_SharpeLeftnt_Sharpe Member Posts: 1
    I am having the same problem with missing quest and journal entries. For example, after talking to Neera, she will give me the quest to find the Wild Mage and the area will appear on the map. However, the quest is missing from the quest tab.
  • The quest regarding the sculptor Prism does not clear from the incomplete quests list upon turning the emeralds in to the quest giver, even though the proper entry does appear in the completed portion of the journal.
  • KhrondorKhrondor Member Posts: 54
    Same for me
  • PyroPatPyroPat Member Posts: 35
    I have multiple quests that doesnt disapare
  • DafojkDafojk Member Posts: 111
    Same for me
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    PyroPat said:

    I have multiple quests that doesnt disapare

    @PyroPat Report all of them, please. The entries have to be fixed individually.
  • JariahxSynnJariahxSynn Member Posts: 67
    I'm having the same issue where do I report that too?
  • PyroPatPyroPat Member Posts: 35
    The quests that do not disapare from my quest list so far is:

    Poe's tale of Firewinw
    Prism the Sculptor
    Prisoner of the Gnolls
    Rescuing Dynaheir
    Xvart Raids (not sure if i actually completed this one thogh)
  • ego1steego1ste Member Posts: 88
    Well i'm in Baldur's Gate now and have a couple of finished quests that i still see in my journal.
    - A hidden base in the cloakwood
    - Tazok and the bandits - it says i need to find hidden base which i did
    - Troubles in the region - also should dissapear i think
    - Xvart Raids - i think i finished it since i cleared every map besides Durlag's Tower, Baldur's Gate and Ulgoth's Beard
    - A hidden base? - i'm not sure maybe it will dissapear later when i fight Sarevok
    - Investigating the Nashkel mines - also remained in my log
    - Prism the Sculptor
  • AlkaluropsAlkalurops Member Posts: 269
    This bug was also in the original BG, if I recall correctly.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited November 2012
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  • KoekenmakerKoekenmaker Member Posts: 21
    Same issue for me on multiple quests no entry or they don,t advance.
    You can see in your log there is a update but it doens,t appear in your journal.
  • Arsene_LupinArsene_Lupin Member Posts: 181
    edited December 2012
    I've noticed the following bugs with the Journal:

    -Mouse scroll often will not work
    -Huge empty areas of "page" above and below journal entries
    -Completed quests sometimes do not appear (just blank paper, rebooted the game and they showed up)
    -Kagain's Quest is marked "active" even after it's "resolved."
    Post edited by Jalily on
  • SarevokSarevok Member Posts: 2
    Observed Behavior:
    Many quests stay in the Quest section of the Journal, though they are actually done.
    Examples from my playthrough so far:

    Branwen Rescued -> didn't let her join the party

    Edwin and Dynaheir, Prisoner of the Gnolls, Rescuing Dynaheir -> killed Dynaheir with Edwin in my party after initiating a dialogue with her

    Madness most fowl -> Encountered Kissiq who talks about the talking chicken after taking Melicamp with me

    Prism the Sculptor -> let him finish his sculpture, brought the Emeralds to Oublek

    Officer Vai -> Girl told me to visit Vai. She attacked me because of my low reputation

    The Tale of Captain Brage -> killed Brage and brought his body to Oublek. Volo's rumor stays in the Journal

    Xvart Raids -> wiped out the entire city

    Tazok and the Bandits -> killed every group of bandits I met without joining them. Quest stays after the Bandit camp

    Expected Behavior: Move finished Quests to the 'Done Quests' section
  • MorrinnMorrinn Member Posts: 9
    I'm going to hazard a guess that if you conclude the chapter these quests are logged in before the quests them selves, they will remain in your journal even after the quests are finished.
    I believe this was also a bug in the original game, but I may be wrong on both accounts.

    In any case, it'd be nice to see this fixed.
  • CabsoxCabsox Member Posts: 2
    So then my issue seems three folded;
    any and all insight would be appreciated.

    On one hand I still have several open quests in my journal related to Minsc's witch
    even though I've completed that quest and got my reward from our lovable red wizard ages ago.

    On the other hand the new Wiz (Neera was it ?) is on the Jaehira BG2 romance level of broken.
    Her journal entries have switched from her quest disapering (without any reason as in me doing it) to her dialogues repeating, regresing to earlier stages or skipping thru to more advanced and then repeating itself to her introductory ones with seemingly no order.

    Best parts are when she mentions npc not yet met or virtually unknown to me.. (from her quest line?)

    And finally your main pitch is bugfixes and the few actually new pieces of content are riddled with bugs,
    I can appreciate its difficult working with someone's decade old code but you're not paradox that you can afford to treat your customers as QA employees.
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  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    @Shandyr - I agree the Journals are currently a bit messed up.. I've posted some similar bugs about them.

    You might want to post your bug here

    http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/218/bug-reporting-process#latest

    Please note the "Current Behavior" and "Expected Behavior" formats the OP describes when recording your bug.

    @Tanthalas - Tagging you again.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    No, don't post it there. Absolutely do not post it there. Bugs are each meant to have their own topics so they can be linked to and moved when necessary; the devs have been splitting off topics from the announcement when people don't do that. (If you have a question about something though, you can post it there.)

    Put all "finished quests not moving to Done" bugs here: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/9136/journal-finished-quests#latest I have linked the devs to that thread.

    @HaHaCharade What did you want Tanthalas to do? This is already in the BG:EE Bugs section.
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    Jalily said:

    No, don't post it there. Absolutely do not post it there. Bugs are each meant to have their own topics so they can be linked to and moved when necessary; the devs have been splitting off topics from the announcement when people don't do that. (If you have a question about something though, you can post it there.)

    Put all "finished quests not moving to Done" bugs here: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/9136/journal-finished-quests#latest I have linked the devs to that thread.

    @HaHaCharade What did you want Tanthalas to do? This is already in the BG:EE Bugs section.

    My bad - I was directed there at one point to post bugs, given the formatting rules that were indicated there. Why would there be a topic for each bug? In any case - I'll start making new topics for each then.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    Organization. If each bug gets its own topic, the mods can merge duplicates and make things much easier for the devs to keep track of. Then, when the bug is confirmed fixed, its topic can be moved to the Fixed forum instead of cluttering up the board.
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,644
    Jalily said:

    Organization. If each bug gets its own topic, the mods can merge duplicates and make things much easier for the devs to keep track of. Then, when the bug is confirmed fixed, its topic can be moved to the Fixed forum instead of cluttering up the board.

    Alrighty then, well if you don't mind I'm not going to re-post the number that I posted there already lol :P Sorry for any confusion, the amount of bug posts was making me loopy.
  • Awong124Awong124 Member Posts: 2,642
    I have the same problems.
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