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Who in your opinion is the most boring NPC in the entire trilogy?

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  • PhyraxPhyrax Member Posts: 198

    Cernd. Valygar comes across as the gruff, stoic, quiet type. Cernd just comes across as having no personality whatsoever.

    I think Ajantis is up there too. He's a young Paladin out to fight evil... and that's about it.

    This is how most adventurers start out, there are worse reasons for being a paladin...
  • KosonKoson Member Posts: 284
    Cernd gets my vote, closely followed by Ajantis.
  • PantalionPantalion Member Posts: 2,137
    Branwen. She's neutral, she's got virtually no personality to speak of, she's so utterly apathetic about her theoretical vengeance she doesn't even care what you do to Tranzig. All she ever does is mumble about warriors, fighting and buttocks. Yawn.
  • jimkayjimkay Member Posts: 10
    Coutelier said:

    Otherwise, I would say Melissan. I mean, Irenicus was always going to be a tough act to follow, but really... the whole evil wearing the guise of innocence thing I find a bit too predictable, and other than that she has no personality at all.

    And everyone knows all red-heads are evil.
  • CoutelierCoutelier Member Posts: 1,282
    jimkay said:

    Coutelier said:

    Otherwise, I would say Melissan. I mean, Irenicus was always going to be a tough act to follow, but really... the whole evil wearing the guise of innocence thing I find a bit too predictable, and other than that she has no personality at all.

    And everyone knows all red-heads are evil.
    I thought they were just supposed to be short tempered and fiery... I'll have to keep an even closer eye on my cousins...
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    Kaigen said:

    @Lemernis I've started privately referring to Kagain as "Grandpa." As in, "Shut up, Grandpa, or we'll put you in a home!"

    Why do you think he was found in a home to begin with? He was already put there, you just released him.

  • deltago said:

    Kaigen said:

    @Lemernis I've started privately referring to Kagain as "Grandpa." As in, "Shut up, Grandpa, or we'll put you in a home!"

    Why do you think he was found in a home to begin with? He was already put there, you just released him.

    "Then we'll put you in that crooked home we saw on 60 Minutes."
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853

    I think Imoen is the most boring NPC... She has no (!!!) interactions with other NPCs in BG1!

    Oh gosh, how could I forget to list Imoen. I boot her ass immediately in all my parties.
  • MykraMykra Member Posts: 252
    This thread just makes me want the BGNPC project even more for BG:EE. I think I love (or love to hate) just about every NPC with that running.

    In vanilla I seem to be pretty anti-pure Druid; Faldorn? Cernd? Get away from meeeeh.

  • KholdstareKholdstare Member Posts: 160
    Cernd, Kaigan, and Dynaheir. I don't hate any of them, but I don't usually take them along.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    edited January 2013
    I don't know about Boring, but absolutely the most annoying companions in all three games (from my point of view) are:

    Xan
    Garrick
    Cernd
    Valygar
    Quayle

    In that order.

    Hm, do NPCs really need a reason to stick with the party? Only very few have that, and it's either for the love of money or having nothing better to do. If anyone, Imoen has a real reason; sharing charname's fate of losing Gorion and being childhood friends. With others, I don't see a really strong reason to stick around after their quests, if they have one, is complete.

    I think that Viconia has a very good reason to stick with the party. They are the only ones that 'Accept' her despite the way her race is viewed. And strength in numbers.

    I also think that Khalid and Jaheira have very good reasons. One is a harper and wants to keep an eye on the Baalspawn and they are both good friends of the aforementioned Gorion, so they would want to help his ward.

    Xzar and Montaron have very good reasons for keeping with Charname.

    Yoshimo has a very good reason for sticking with the party until he has no more reason to exist.

    and Saravok has a reason to stick with the PC.

    So, I'd say that a fair number of the NPCs have reason to be with the party past their 'Quests'.
  • toanwrathtoanwrath Member Posts: 621
    Faldorn (slightly redeemable in BG2 as a villain), Branwen, Dynaheir. Ajantis is just a noob, though I like his interaction when you try to recruit Dorn. Cernd in BG2 is fairly boring, Imoen is...there I suppose...
    There are some I dislike, but at least they aren't boring (Quayle, Korgan, TIAX!!!)
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    toanwrath said:

    TIAX!!!

    Hey, don't diss Tiax. or one day he will point and click YOU.

  • toanwrathtoanwrath Member Posts: 621

    toanwrath said:

    TIAX!!!

    Hey, don't diss Tiax. or one day he will point and click YOU.

    I wasn't dissing him, he's fine. I just can't stand him. Exciting for sure, just not my cup of tea.
  • FentonFenton Member Posts: 38
    Xan. I get it we are all doomed and such. That's all the dude says. As far as BG 2 I'm going to say Cernd.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    Yoshimo...

    Best thing he did for me was give me the opportunity to carry his tainted heart around with me... Reminded me he was dead.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    I actually have no idea. I find that I project onto NPCs that I like far more than they probably deserve.

    Maybe Dynaheir (sp? =P), or Jaheira. I always found Khalid rather entertaining, but I never liked Jaheira. Minsc gets old, but I liked him at first so he gets a pass. BG2 has Cernd and Valygar, who kind of eclipse everyone but each other in their utter triteness. 90% of the time I just murder Valygar and use his corpse as a door key. I really dislike Korgan. I find him obnoxious, unfunny, dull, and generally a worthless fellow to have around. I always pray that he gets stuck in the Sacrifice Trial in Hell.
  • DebaserDebaser Member Posts: 669
    edited January 2013

    I actually have no idea. I find that I project onto NPCs that I like far more than they probably deserve.

    Maybe Dynaheir (sp? =P), or Jaheira. I always found Khalid rather entertaining, but I never liked Jaheira. Minsc gets old, but I liked him at first so he gets a pass. BG2 has Cernd and Valygar, who kind of eclipse everyone but each other in their utter triteness. 90% of the time I just murder Valygar and use his corpse as a door key. I really dislike Korgan. I find him obnoxious, unfunny, dull, and generally a worthless fellow to have around. I always pray that he gets stuck in the Sacrifice Trial in Hell.



    @Eudaemonium I have a history of loving strong willed women. =P

    And I mean that in the most complimentary sense...so Jaheria was my fave romance and the only romance I got completely through despite horrible bugs that sometimes would end that before it got where it needed to go. =/

    Jaheria is one of my favorite Characters but to this day I think she needs a slightly higher wisdom score (I always feel like they nerfed her there at least give her a 15.

    Khalid is actually a decent character but I just never really have room for him in my parties. Minsc is a lot o fun but I always change him to Longswords and Scimitars over Two-Handed Swords if I keep him a ranger...or if I make him a Berserker like I think he should be I ditch long bow for long swords usually.

    "Swords, not words" (I usually take that as literally as possible)

    Khalid and Minsc were great fun in my first few play throughs, but you get a bit bored doing the same thing over and over...plus for good NPC combinations there's a lot of characters who are ultimately more flexible to work with. Rassaad is a beast if handled right, Neera is way more powerful than Dynahier, and Corvan is potentially a lot more flexible than Minsc.

    Though I think with strength buffing items Khalid gets pretty dang decent...it's never really all that good at anything. I've always wished he was a fighter mage or something more involved.

    But at least he's not Dynaheir who's only saving grace is high constitution.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    I heard Khalid was supposed to be a Fighter/Mage originally, but they changed it.

    I have to confess that I've only ever played BG with female PCs, so I never discovered what any of the romances were like, since my only option was Anomen, and I think I only used him for about 5 minutes on one playthrough before I gave him the boot. I was just never fond of Jaheira. I think my favourite female party member on my original BG2 playthrough was Mazzy.
  • SilverstarSilverstar Member Posts: 2,207
    Well. For most boring companion NPC... could basically pick just about every single one in the first game. Lack of banters and personal quests after having played BGII just makes them seem so incredibly lacking. Sure there's -some- but they're few and far between and some never even properly finish or start.

    Since it's not really fair putting BG companions and BGII companions up against each other though, I'm going to go with Cernd. His voiceacting, while technically good, is very yawn and I just couldn't find myself to care much for his personal quest.
  • IllustairIllustair Member Posts: 878
    Strange, many people find Valygar boring..but me, I tag him along every now and then. A guy who looks like Jamaican/Brazilian who can kick a wizard's ass seems very appealing to me. I also enjoyed the planar sphere.

    But to answer the OP, it's Cernd for me. He's the most forgettable, I think that reflects how boring he is.
  • HowieHowie Member Posts: 136
    Gorion...
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    @Howie: BUT WHYYYYYYYY!!??? D;
  • IllustairIllustair Member Posts: 878
    @Djimmy
    Spot on with the ending. Everything about him is forgettable...except his ending story.
  • ChowChow Member Posts: 1,192
    In the first game, I'm going to have to go with Branwen. Basically everyone else is the sort of wacky or insane or Kivan that none of them are really any forgettable and all are quite exciting to use. Compared to that ridiculous bunch, a simple cleric of Tempus doesn't have much chance to shine.

    The second game, I'm going to agree with the majority here and go with Cernd. His personality is bland, his character class is useless (especially without fixes), mostly any banter he gets is forgettable, and even his quest is nothing of interest. The only reason to bring him along is to listen to what he has to say to Edwin when he's transformed into a woman: if possible do the whole druid grove quest during that time. Though yes, I agree that his ending is pretty good.
  • DjimmyDjimmy Member Posts: 749
    @Chow Why would a Shapeshifter be useless with 19 str as a warewolf(and later the ability to shapeshift into a greater werewolf) and nice spells? Yes, druids in BG need more rabalancing but still, it is a nice class.
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