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Firewine: Why bother? More treasure please.

As an adventurer, I heard that with a pair of stout legs I could reach a ruin called Firewine that was heaving with treasure.

Gnomes of Gullykin bemoaned the fact that adventurers would barge through to get their mits on the precious magical items that littered the floor, causing trip hazards in their apparent fecundity...

What I found.
- Kobolds.
- Traps.
- A mage.
- Some ghosts.
- An ogre and his chums.

The treasure that I left with.
- Some spells (on the mage)
- Some jewelry (on the Kobolds)
- Some flame arrows (on the Kobolds)

The damn catacomb was emptier than a biscuit tin at a Barry White concert.

All it held was dust, cobwebs and broken promises.

My pair of stout legs left disgusted.

What are your thoughts? Should it be enhanced? Or simply avoided?
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  • atcDaveatcDave Member Posts: 2,387
    Firewine is kind of a waste of time. I usually skip it except for the back door in Gullykin for quick access to the ogre and Mage.

    But I'm okay with that. I like the idea that some places have already been looted out/played out. Firewine is apparently THE hot spot for Kobolds, and after Neshkel I'd be happy to never see another Kobold as long as I live. Such is life...
  • mjsmjs Member Posts: 742
    fire wine is one of the first places I go now for those extra pair of gauntlets of specialisation.

    Act like a reasonable adventurer and make polite small talk or be a complete arse, murder an otherwise decent fellow and loot his gloves? Hmmm
  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    mjs said:

    fire wine is one of the first places I go now for those extra pair of gauntlets of specialisation.

    Act like a reasonable adventurer and make polite small talk or be a complete arse, murder an otherwise decent fellow and loot his gloves? Hmmm

    In fact the "extra pair of gauntlets of specialisation" is found in the Bandit's camp tent, since it was added there by the BGEE devs ;-)

    Worth mentionning it because, if your courgeous enough to get to this area at low level, you can quite easily obtain them a long time before going to the camp.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745

    Kill the ghosts.

    There's your reward.


    You can kill the ghosts?

    You can make them deader?

  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    "It's Dead!! YOU Kill it!"

    Seriously, as Professor Jones indicates, "the find falls victim to one of the dangers of archiology. Not life and limb, although that sometimes comes into play. No, but local legend. The generally poor quality of the find is due to other treasure hunters getting there first" (or something to that effect).

    I personally always go there because my mage in the party invariably wants to search the Ulcaster ruins for long lost scrolls and powerful artifacts. The Gulykin denizens want you to go there because the Ogre is a Pita to them and they want you to take care of it for them. Oh, and one of them wants you there for a different reason all together.
  • SpaceInvaderSpaceInvader Member Posts: 2,125
    edited March 2013
    Anduin said:

    Kill the ghosts.

    There's your reward.


    You can kill the ghosts?

    You can make them deader?

    Actually, the best/game-breaking loot in the whole game comes from Firewine's ruins ;)

    Check this thread: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/11821/the-kozah-idol/p1
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  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    @spaceinvader The darn ruins are full. FULL! of treasure. All under my nose. Fortunately I have a save game entering the ruins... Going to do a little ghostbustin...
  • DelvarianDelvarian Member Posts: 1,232
    Well if bustin makes you feel good.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Delvarian said:

    Well if bustin makes you feel good.

    Who ya gonna call?
  • DelvarianDelvarian Member Posts: 1,232
    Man now I really want to watch Ghostbusters.
  • Grimo88Grimo88 Member Posts: 191
    Bhaaldog said:

    I would put in a rival party (may be more than one) who is also looking for treasure that could potentially lead to conflict and may possess an item of note or two...

    These were my FAVOURITE encounters in BG2. The rival party is such a perfect challenge. Also the first thing I noticed was missing from the... dare I utter its name in this most Holiest of Holies?... Dragon Age games.

  • DetroitRedWings25DetroitRedWings25 Member Posts: 244
    atcDave said:

    Firewine is kind of a waste of time. I usually skip it except for the back door in Gullykin for quick access to the ogre and Mage.

    But I'm okay with that. I like the idea that some places have already been looted out/played out. Firewine is apparently THE hot spot for Kobolds, and after Neshkel I'd be happy to never see another Kobold as long as I live. Such is life...

    Hot spot for Kobolds... Flaming arrows I see what you did there.

  • DrugarDrugar Member Posts: 1,566
    Alistair especially was one of the best NPC's in recent years, though I have no complaints about the rest either (Seriously, every game should have a Wynne).
    I fully endorse Dragon Age: Origins.

    On Topic:
    I thought adventuring wasn't about the loot but about the mass murder of smaller and/or greener humanoids?
  • DelvarianDelvarian Member Posts: 1,232
    Drugar said:

    Alistair especially was one of the best NPC's in recent years, though I have no complaints about the rest either (Seriously, every game should have a Wynne).
    I fully endorse Dragon Age: Origins.

    On Topic:
    I thought adventuring wasn't about the loot but about the mass murder of smaller and/or greener humanoids?

    My Halfling fighter takes offense at this statement.
  • AnaximanderAnaximander Member Posts: 191
    edited March 2013
    Ah dragon age, ... i loved the warrior - dexterity + daggers dual-weild build
  • WebShamanWebShaman Member Posts: 490
    What is not to like about beating up kobolds? To really have fun, do it unarmed!

    I wonder which one is Deekin? Doom doom doo- *crunch*
  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    I reckon the Firewine dungeon is well worth looting even if it's just for the ammo. Those Flame Arrows +2 are darn good arrows!

    In BGee, they seem to have toned down the respawn rate of the Kobold Commandoes quite significantly compared to the original BG1. In the original version it was quite tough in there because it was swarming with KCs every time you turned your back, so even quite a strong party could get overwhelmed if careless. The BGee version is easier to clear out, but as a result you can't collect so many of those excellent arrows.
  • WebShamanWebShaman Member Posts: 490
    Potion of Invis, plus Mage, plus Sleep equals putting the hurt on KCs!
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    edited March 2013
    Dragon Age takes itself waaaay too seriously to imagine a world full of rival parties of adventurers.
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    edited March 2013
    Anduin said:

    Gnomes of Gullykin

    Halflings!

    I reckon the Firewine dungeon is well worth looting even if it's just for the ammo. Those Flame Arrows +2 are darn good arrows!

    :D

    In BGee, they seem to have toned down the respawn rate of the Kobold Commandoes quite significantly compared to the original BG1.

    Boo. D:
    ...ah crap, I forgot to do that part on my last run.

    In the original version it was quite tough in there because it was swarming with KCs every time you turned your back, so even quite a strong party could get overwhelmed if careless. The BGee version is easier to clear out, but as a result you can't collect so many of those excellent arrows.

    Yeah. And it made those arrows all the more worth it. Those kobolds must have come from the Demiplane of Tuckeria.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    I cannot cross the beams... so I cannot kill the ghosts without cheating :(

    However... You can pick a ghosts pocket...
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  • raelcariraelcari Member Posts: 133
    i might remember this wrong, since I didn't go there in my EE playthrough, but isn't firewine one of the very few places you could get your hands on the fireball scroll before entering BG?
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