It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Speaking of which a record low percentage of people are "extremely proud to be American". Ashamed indeed.
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism. And she's mainly using her office to push her business.
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism.
Isn't that what most communist regimes do? Like in NK, Cuba and Venezuela?
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism.
Isn't that what most communist regimes do? Like in NK, Cuba and Venezuela?
But I thought Trump was a Nazi. *scratches head*
Well he's done it, installed his son in law and daughter in the government.
He's a wanna be Nazi. He retweets nazis and is in the party that has a lot of Nazi sympathizers and candidates that are literally Nazis running for office.
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism.
Isn't that what most communist regimes do? Like in NK, Cuba and Venezuela?
But I thought Trump was a Nazi. *scratches head*
Well he's done it, installed his son in law and daughter in the government.
He's a wanna be Nazi. He retweets nazis and is in the party that has a lot of Nazi sympathizers and candidates that are literally Nazis running for office.
*sigh* Calling one's political opponents "nazis" is not constructive to any discussion whatsoever. I have been away for about 4 or 5 days and this is what I come back to? Why?
Seems like the next presidente of Mexico is a leftist. Reaction to Trump. Any insight?
I will be surprised if Señor Obrador will be able to make any significant changes in Mexico. Unless he mobilizes the military to start taking down the cartels all the people are going to get will be 6 more years of the same old crap.
@BillyYank: Those are disturbing numbers, for which my only response is "Alabama is only 1.5% of the United States by population."
And my response to that is: "Is Alabama an extra special racist state? Or are there similar demographics and dynamics at work in other states?" My personal experiences in Texas and Michigan lead me to believe that Alabama is actually fairly typical.
Trump's main attack dog in the House of Representatives, Jim Jordan, has what can only be described as a Penn State-like problem on his hands, accused of ignoring the sexual assault of members of his wrestling team while at Ohio State:
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism.
Isn't that what most communist regimes do? Like in NK, Cuba and Venezuela?
But I thought Trump was a Nazi. *scratches head*
Nepotism & corruption are not limited to communism. They thrive in authoritharian regimes and dictatorships, regardless of the political ideology behind them. The German nazi party was not exempt from that.
Trump in my opinion doesn't believe in anything but $$$; he will use whatever ideology gets him what he wants, which is more $$$. And the fallout will be shouldered by the poorest.
Nepotism and corruption thrive in democracies too. I'm pretty sure they thrive in pretty much every form of government known to man...
It's interesting that in a debate over the American president, the question under discussion is whether he's more dishonest than all other politicians, or just more dishonest than the majority of them.
At least he is dishonest to your face through tweets and tv, the other vipers do it behind your back.
One does not exclude the other. Someone who lies so blatantly to your face is even more likely to do so behind your back.
There is no way of knowing that. I do agree though that all politicians are liars. Now the degree of lying can be debated. Like lying enough to invade a sovereign country and wiping out their leader. (Iraq, Lybia) I don't recall Trump asking congress to kill people in his or another country, yet. Hey there is still 6+ years for him to lie about that though.
That is a strange statement to make, considering the US-led coalition is currently doing just that: killing people in another country. Considering that Trump is your president, that means officially he commanded the recent strikes in Syria. And didn't he brag about this on twitter?
See above
Assuming Trump is my President? For shame.
Then he isn't, yet you are still downplaying his responsibility for his actions, same as with downplaying his lying.
And I honestly don't care about debating the "degree" of it, because this isn't a competition. He is the man in charge, he takes the responsability. It might make a difference to you that he inherited the lead, but does it make a difference to those killed by his command?
Obama has killed more my friend. Including Americans.
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Which is downplaying to me, as you imply that this is just that; an "at least" as opposed to the other politicians you've compared him to. While at the same time, team Trump - as his daughter aptly put it - is jetting around the world talking deals behind closed doors.
I wish Ivanka would come and talk to me behind closed doors.
I'd rather she quit her unofficial official government position because she only got the job due to nepotism.
Isn't that what most communist regimes do? Like in NK, Cuba and Venezuela?
But I thought Trump was a Nazi. *scratches head*
Nepotism & corruption are not limited to communism. They thrive in authoritharian regimes and dictatorships, regardless of the political ideology behind them. The German nazi party was not exempt from that.
Trump in my opinion doesn't believe in anything but $$$; he will use whatever ideology gets him what he wants, which is more $$$. And the fallout will be shouldered by the poorest.
Nepotism and corruption thrive in democracies too. I'm pretty sure they thrive in pretty much every form of government known to man...
There are anti-nepotism laws in the United States it's just Trump is getting around them. Circumventing the laws if you will. Republicans don't hold him accountable and don't care when as he breaks the law all the time without consequences.
If anyone other than Donald Trump had made his daughter and son-in-law two of his top West Wing advisers, while they are still simultaneously running their businesses and using their current positions to curry favor and (frankly) engage in outright bribery with the governments of China and Qatar, the general populace would be losing their minds. Show me one parallel to this kind of behavior with any recent Administration:
Of course, no one can provide an example of a parallel, because it doesn't exist. The point of this post is that our foreign policy is being conducted in a way that serves the financial interests of the Trump family, above all other concerns. They don't even attempt to hide it. There isn't much to be done about politicians making money off their experience in government AFTER they leave their position, but the idea that the country is so apathetic about it going on while they are IN office, clearly using the White House as a license to print money, shows just how screwed we really are. When they won the Presidency, they viewed it as winning a business asset, and really nothing else. There are so many conflicts of interest with Trump-associated businesses around the world that it is simply impossible to even keep track of them, so the press and public basically just stopped even bothering. Nothing is scandal because, by rights, almost EVERYTHING about them should be a scandal. And thus, they skate by. Simply another version of "the big lie".
If anyone other than Donald Trump had made his daughter and son-in-law two of his top West Wing advisers, while they are still simultaneously running their businesses and using their current positions to curry favor and (frankly) engage in outright bribery with the governments of China and Qatar, the general populace would be losing their minds. Show me one parallel to this kind of behavior with any recent Administration:
Of course, no one can provide an example of a parallel, because it doesn't exist. The point of this post is that our foreign policy is being conducted in a way that serves the financial interests of the Trump family, above all other concerns. They don't even attempt to hide it. There isn't much to be done about politicians making money off their experience in government AFTER they leave their position, but the idea that the country is so apathetic about it going on while they are IN office, clearly using the White House as a license to print money, shows just how screwed we really are. When they won the Presidency, they viewed it as winning a business asset, and really nothing else. There are so many conflicts of interest with Trump-associated businesses around the world that it is simply impossible to even keep track of them, so the press and public basically just stopped even bothering. Nothing is scandal because, by rights, almost EVERYTHING about them should be a scandal. And thus, they skate by. Simply another version of "the big lie".
The animus the far-right feels for liberals is beyond belief. I know from my family. You'll never convince them of anything bad about Trump as long as he's seen as their 'last bastion' against the evil, corrupting left. I've said it before and I'll say it again, they think I'm a liberal...
That's one of the things that's been worrying me about modern politics. A lot of folks on the right seem motivated more by fear and hatred for the left instead of any love for their own ideals--and a lot of support for Trump seems to be based on the fact that liberals don't like him, and not on anything he actually does. It may be a minority viewpoint, but it's a disturbingly large minority, and I don't see any historical equivalent.
For a few folks, their favorite thing about Trump is that he "trolls" people. I can't think of a more petty reason for supporting a politician than spite.
I don't even know where to begin with this, but my suggestion to anyone else would be to seek the help of a mental health professional.
Edit: The reason this post now looks this way is it originally had a Donald Trump tweet, that he has since deleted, thus it is no longer showing up, making it seem like I was talking about a forum poster when that simply was not the case. Another possible violation of the Presidential Records Act though.
Calling someone a Nazi or Communist because they do not agree with your adopted political ideology is childish and petty. It's even used in this very forum. The way people attack another (like rabbid pitbulls) just because of a comment or a difference of opinion. The same few over and over ad nauseam. Even to post tweets from idiots that actually think they are relevant. There are a few in here who actually try and have a constructive dialog with their fellow forumites even though they have different beliefs, the rest just copy pasta or parrot everything from their favorite sites or scream nazi, communist or bigot like a conservative gives out tax breaks to the rich.
Sorry guys, had to be said. Against the TOS, oh well. This thread was created by someone to hear and see the different political climates in countries all over our world, not just Americas and certainly not just how much someone can show others the hate they have in their hearts for Trump, President of the United States.
I have also come and go on this forum ( cancer is a bitch ) and nothing changes. Same tripe day after day. There are people who post daily about news from the U.S. and I find that very informative as I do not watch the news or TV, haven't in 10 years. Will go online to find things specific which someone has brought to my attention but to sit down and get * tin foil hat * programmed, I will not.
Sorry for the rant but I would love for people from other countries to please add to this thread about the "Political climates in your country". Maybe we can all learn something good from each others differences instead of learning about peoples hate for something different.
Calling someone a Nazi or Communist because they do not agree with your adopted political ideology is childish and petty. It's even used in this very forum. The way people attack another (like rabbid pitbulls) just because of a comment or a difference of opinion. The same few over and over ad nauseam. Even to post tweets from idiots that actually think they are relevant. There are a few in here who actually try and have a constructive dialog with their fellow forumites even though they have different beliefs, the rest just copy pasta or parrot everything from their favorite sites or scream nazi, communist or bigot like a conservative gives out tax breaks to the rich.
Sorry guys, had to be said. Against the TOS, oh well. This thread was created by someone to hear and see the different political climates in countries all over our world, not just Americas and certainly not just how much someone can show others the hate they have in their hearts for Trump, President of the United States.
I have also come and go on this forum ( cancer is a bitch ) and nothing changes. Same tripe day after day. There are people who post daily about news from the U.S. and I find that very informative as I do not watch the news or TV, haven't in 10 years. Will go online to find things specific which someone has brought to my attention but to sit down and get * tin foil hat * programmed, I will not.
Sorry for the rant but I would love for people from other countries to please add to this thread about the "Political climates in your country". Maybe we can all learn something good from each others differences instead of learning about peoples hate for something different.
Well said.
The title of the thread is "Politics, the feel in your country" but it's dominated by anti Trump BS.
People voted for him it might be interesting to hear why, especially as branding them "racist" doesn't really fit with them voting for Obama a few years back.
Calling someone a Nazi or Communist because they do not agree with your adopted political ideology is childish and petty. It's even used in this very forum. The way people attack another (like rabbid pitbulls) just because of a comment or a difference of opinion. The same few over and over ad nauseam. Even to post tweets from idiots that actually think they are relevant. There are a few in here who actually try and have a constructive dialog with their fellow forumites even though they have different beliefs, the rest just copy pasta or parrot everything from their favorite sites or scream nazi, communist or bigot like a conservative gives out tax breaks to the rich.
Sorry guys, had to be said. Against the TOS, oh well. This thread was created by someone to hear and see the different political climates in countries all over our world, not just Americas and certainly not just how much someone can show others the hate they have in their hearts for Trump, President of the United States.
I have also come and go on this forum ( cancer is a bitch ) and nothing changes. Same tripe day after day. There are people who post daily about news from the U.S. and I find that very informative as I do not watch the news or TV, haven't in 10 years. Will go online to find things specific which someone has brought to my attention but to sit down and get * tin foil hat * programmed, I will not.
Sorry for the rant but I would love for people from other countries to please add to this thread about the "Political climates in your country". Maybe we can all learn something good from each others differences instead of learning about peoples hate for something different.
Too be fair, we get quite a few snippets from Canada and the UK (and a few from France, Finland, Greece, Poland, Australia, Brazil and Russia). We're limited by language on this forum (mostly English) and if there are folks from other countries here they either aren't very political or just aren't comfortable enough with English to chime in.
Edit: In other words, the subset of people comfortable with expressing themselves in English, knowledgeable or at least interested in politics, and enjoy a relatively old rpg might be pretty small...
In my opinion one of the problems with democracy is that 51-49 is a majority, but the winner-take-all philosophy of politics pisses off close to half of the country no matter who is in power...
The title of the thread is "Politics, the feel in your country" but it's dominated by anti Trump BS.
People voted for him it might be interesting to hear why, especially as branding them "racist" doesn't really fit with them voting for Obama a few years back.
To be fair: Trump's approval rating is well below 50% in the USA, so over half of people in the USA are likely to have a negative opinion of him. Trump is considerably less liked abroad than he is in the USA, so when you start adding in non-Americans, you're even more likely to see a negative bent against Trump.
If anything, I think the political breakdown of the forum rather closely mirrors with all of that. You have a majority of people who dislike Trump, most of whom are liberal but a few of whom are conservative. You have some conservatives who defend him as well.
As a side note: One can be racist and still have voted for Obama. Just as one can be racist and still have "black friends".
In my opinion one of the problems with democracy is that 51-49 is a majority, but the winner-take-all philosophy of politics pisses off close to half of the country no matter who is in power...
I totally agree with this. I used to be very centrist politically, simply because I figured it wasnt fair to want to support an extreme (relative to the other side) policy if it was going to make 50% of the country unhappy. However, that's essentially the name of the game, isnt it? I'm less centrist now, but I try to keep my eye on the ball about supporting things that go too far.
Also - you can imagine how frustrating it is when it's less 51-49 for a majority and more 48-46, but the 46 winds up in charge.
The reason most of the posts are about Trump is because most of the posters in this thread are from the US. We mostly talk about US politics because we probably aren't well-versed enough to discuss those of other countries. Beyond that, Trump's tariff policy and general hostile attitude toward the post-WW2 Western Alliances has also caught the attention of our Canadian and European posters as well. We have a couple posters from South America, but I imagine the reason we don't have more has to do with a language barrier. There is an overwhelming amount of content here in regards to US politics, and a fair amount in regards to Canadian and European as well. That is generally where the scope of the thread lands because that is where (by my estimation) over 90% of the posters come from.
The title of the thread is "Politics, the feel in your country" but it's dominated by anti Trump BS.
People voted for him it might be interesting to hear why, especially as branding them "racist" doesn't really fit with them voting for Obama a few years back.
To be fair: Trump's approval rating is well below 50% in the USA, so over half of people in the USA are likely to have a negative opinion of him. Trump is considerably less liked abroad than he is in the USA, so when you start adding in non-Americans, you're even more likely to see a negative bent against Trump.
If anything, I think the political breakdown of the forum rather closely mirrors with all of that. You have a majority of people who dislike Trump, most of whom are liberal but a few of whom are conservative. You have some conservatives who defend him as well.
As a side note: One can be racist and still have voted for Obama. Just as one can be racist and still have "black friends".
In my opinion one of the problems with democracy is that 51-49 is a majority, but the winner-take-all philosophy of politics pisses off close to half of the country no matter who is in power...
Also - you can imagine how frustrating it is when it's less 51-49 for a majority and more 48-46, but the 46 winds up in charge.
Worse yet, it's 46-48 of the people WHO BOTHERED TO VOTE! It boggles my mind how many people don't even take advantage of the privilege to vote in a democracy, especially now when the margins are so razor thin. Astounding...
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gallup-record-low-percentage-extremely-proud-to-be-american
Not downplaying any ones actions, I just said that at least he lies to your face. I think most Trump haters would have a barking match with a dog if it was wearing a MAGA hat.
Totally corrupt.
But I thought Trump was a Nazi. *scratches head*
He's a wanna be Nazi. He retweets nazis and is in the party that has a lot of Nazi sympathizers and candidates that are literally Nazis running for office.
Additionally Republican Rand Paul tweeted Nazi ideology today.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ron-paul-blames-racist-tweet-on-staffer_us_5b3ada27e4b07b827cba060b
I quote Marcus Aurelius sometimes, does that make me...
@TakisMegas: Explain how this is a valid analogy. Hint: it isn't.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/03/jim-jordan-accused-ignoring-sexual-abuse-allegations-ohio-state/754455002/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/nyregion/kushner-deal-qatar-666-5th.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/business/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks.html
Of course, no one can provide an example of a parallel, because it doesn't exist. The point of this post is that our foreign policy is being conducted in a way that serves the financial interests of the Trump family, above all other concerns. They don't even attempt to hide it. There isn't much to be done about politicians making money off their experience in government AFTER they leave their position, but the idea that the country is so apathetic about it going on while they are IN office, clearly using the White House as a license to print money, shows just how screwed we really are. When they won the Presidency, they viewed it as winning a business asset, and really nothing else. There are so many conflicts of interest with Trump-associated businesses around the world that it is simply impossible to even keep track of them, so the press and public basically just stopped even bothering. Nothing is scandal because, by rights, almost EVERYTHING about them should be a scandal. And thus, they skate by. Simply another version of "the big lie".
For a few folks, their favorite thing about Trump is that he "trolls" people. I can't think of a more petty reason for supporting a politician than spite.
I don't even know where to begin with this, but my suggestion to anyone else would be to seek the help of a mental health professional.
Edit: The reason this post now looks this way is it originally had a Donald Trump tweet, that he has since deleted, thus it is no longer showing up, making it seem like I was talking about a forum poster when that simply was not the case. Another possible violation of the Presidential Records Act though.
Calling someone a Nazi or Communist because they do not agree with your adopted political ideology is childish and petty. It's even used in this very forum. The way people attack another (like rabbid pitbulls) just because of a comment or a difference of opinion. The same few over and over ad nauseam. Even to post tweets from idiots that actually think they are relevant. There are a few in here who actually try and have a constructive dialog with their fellow forumites even though they have different beliefs, the rest just copy pasta or parrot everything from their favorite sites or scream nazi, communist or bigot like a conservative gives out tax breaks to the rich.
Sorry guys, had to be said. Against the TOS, oh well. This thread was created by someone to hear and see the different political climates in countries all over our world, not just Americas and certainly not just how much someone can show others the hate they have in their hearts for Trump, President of the United States.
I have also come and go on this forum ( cancer is a bitch ) and nothing changes. Same tripe day after day. There are people who post daily about news from the U.S. and I find that very informative as I do not watch the news or TV, haven't in 10 years. Will go online to find things specific which someone has brought to my attention but to sit down and get * tin foil hat * programmed, I will not.
Sorry for the rant but I would love for people from other countries to please add to this thread about the "Political climates in your country". Maybe we can all learn something good from each others differences instead of learning about peoples hate for something different.
Here is something a colleague just brought to my attention.
https://www.axios.com/trump-to-rescind-obama-affirmative-action-policy-universities-11cde6d2-7886-4709-8318-a2afbf6357f9.html
The title of the thread is "Politics, the feel in your country" but it's dominated by anti Trump BS.
People voted for him it might be interesting to hear why, especially as branding them "racist" doesn't really fit with them voting for Obama a few years back.
Edit: In other words, the subset of people comfortable with expressing themselves in English, knowledgeable or at least interested in politics, and enjoy a relatively old rpg might be pretty small...
If anything, I think the political breakdown of the forum rather closely mirrors with all of that. You have a majority of people who dislike Trump, most of whom are liberal but a few of whom are conservative. You have some conservatives who defend him as well.
As a side note: One can be racist and still have voted for Obama. Just as one can be racist and still have "black friends". I totally agree with this. I used to be very centrist politically, simply because I figured it wasnt fair to want to support an extreme (relative to the other side) policy if it was going to make 50% of the country unhappy. However, that's essentially the name of the game, isnt it? I'm less centrist now, but I try to keep my eye on the ball about supporting things that go too far.
Also - you can imagine how frustrating it is when it's less 51-49 for a majority and more 48-46, but the 46 winds up in charge.