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How Gamers Treat Developers

LeronisLeronis Member Posts: 112
edited September 2012 in Off-Topic
dev says > $19

gamers say > ack. ack. ACK. ACK.

dev says > original art lost

gamers say > ack. ack. ACK. ACK. ACK! ack. ack.



Edit for bad link.

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  • LeronisLeronis Member Posts: 112
    @Cheesebelly

    Sadly, that's true for many people... I just support Overhaul

    yessir. I just got back from http://www.rpgcodex.net/ , and oh my, the haters. Had to detour here via http://www.eyebleach.com/ just to fix my attitude.

    CoD isn't my thing either, but I'm pleased that Activision serves the FPS gamer.

    Thankx Beamdog. Get back to work! It's crunch time.

    Cheesebelly
  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    Actually, Kerberos is another really good developer. I think we can love BeamDog and still have our little meaningless affairs with other devs... Just tell BeamDog, "It's not you, it's me. I'm... It's complicated." Buy them flowers and chocolate and...

    Silly rambling. Anyway, the point is, there are some very community-focused developers. My gut feel is that they're paving the way to the future and the monolithic disconnected devs will have trouble keeping up.


    immagikmanSneakyDumpling
  • CheesebellyCheesebelly Member Posts: 1,727
    @Leronis - true on the regards of Activision serving their crowds... but then again they also milk every cent from them, meaning that a, for instance, Call of Duty 3 fan, will be also a "Call of Duty 16" fan (notice that the same is done with EA and their Sims and Need for Speed series, to a minor degree also Square Enix and their Final Fantasy series)

    But I guess that if the gamers are happy, then I am happy for them... AS LONG as they don't bash my BGEE Ô_ô

  • LeronisLeronis Member Posts: 112
    @immagikman

    Regarding Wasteland, "Oh my, my, oh hell yes - Honey put on that party dress." God bless kickstarter.

    Too there's Dishonored, PC Darksouls, Torchlight2, Grim Dawn, Path of Exile, GuildWars2.... Truly is a great time to be an RPG fan. I'm still savoring Witcher2EE.

    It's almost too much of a good thing:

  • LeronisLeronis Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2012
    @ajwz who said "Dont be a fan boy, developer having been treating gamers like shit for a long while.

    DRM, always online, day 1 dlc, bad console ports, DLC "season passes", multiplayer dlc, pay 2 win, 3 activations allowed, sign up to our webservice to complete installation, EULAs and many other cancerous practises have come to dominate modern day pc gaming."

    Well I just met you, and this is crazy, but I agree. Thing is, Developers gotta get paid, or I don't score good games. I loathe DRM etc as much as you, but Developers gotta get paid, or I don't score good games. Might as well nerdrage about the price of anything. It costs money to make games. Accept what you can't change. Acceptance is calming. Resistance is futile.

    http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/675r/

    Edit added the link

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  • AndrewRogueAndrewRogue Member Posts: 72
    Both sides tend to be pretty bad, honestly. Plenty of good devs who get shit from horrifically uninformed and moronic players and plenty of players who get ruined by greedy and thoughtless devs.

    MoiraNWN_babaYaga
  • KonabugaKonabuga Member Posts: 135
    Honestly, the gamers are the biggest a-holes. They pirate games like there's no end and then they bitch and moan that no ones making any good games for PC anymore, or that they have DLC's, or DRM.

  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    To be fair, not all gamers who complain are pirating games, and in fact most pirates don't complain.

    The whole thing is a vicious, bitter cycle.

  • BjjorickBjjorick Member Posts: 1,208
    is the Ack. Ack. Ack. a reference to bill the cat?

    i hope so, it would be great to see a reference to such an awesome strip (and horrible rip off of garfield :P )

  • KonabugaKonabuga Member Posts: 135
    I thought it was a reference to Eric the midg... actor.

  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    @Konabuga - I do not own a single piece of pirated anything. Music, book, game, video - not a one. I'm a gamer and if I want to play it, I buy it. Guess I'm a biggest a-hole, too?

    I see fault on both sides, but the common denominator is the belief that a person's own opinion is more right than another or whatnot. Equality sucks, as I'm sure we'd all like to rule the world, but we're stuck with it.

  • reedmilfamreedmilfam Member Posts: 2,808
    @bjjorick - I always thought Bill was a spoof, rather than a rip off.

  • BjjorickBjjorick Member Posts: 1,208

    @bjjorick - I always thought Bill was a spoof, rather than a rip off.

    he was, but in the comic he was introduced in, he was referred to as 'a cheap rip off to monetize on the popularity of another similar cartoon cat" while the other char in the back ground poking bill with a stick commented "i think we need a live cat...."

  • LeronisLeronis Member Posts: 112
    @Bjjorick @Konabuga Ack. Ack. is a reference to the Mars Attacks! movie. The clip in the first post is only 20 seconds. "Ack. ack. Don't run. We are your friends." is one of the few times that the martians say anything besides ACK. or "We come in peace."

    Sorry no cats. But you do have the ENTIRE rest of the internet for cats and midget porn.

  • SilenceSilence Member Posts: 437
    Early DLC is as an annoying practice, but I think it was a natural evolution of game development. To meet shipping deadlines, developers are often forced to cut content from games. Early DLC provides developers additional time to polish and integrate content even after a game is released. Yes, it's annoying....but I think the alternative is not having the content at all. In the case of a game like SW:KOTOR 2, I gladly would have paid for early DLC so I could experience the story and quests as intended.

    Now, this is a cherry-picked example. I'm sure in many cases, developers use DLC to make as much money as possible. But for me, I'd rather pay a couple of bucks for a few DLCs than pay 20$ for one expansion.

    Jaysama
  • immagikmanimmagikman Member Posts: 664
    edited August 2012
    @Bjjorick
    Bill the Cat was the origin of Ack Ack Ack :) I still have a copy of Billy and the Boingers.....I also LOOOVEd Tess Turbo :) But I also got the Mars Attacks reference :) Another classic.

  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    I think the problem with how many (most?) gamers treat developers today is that there simply isn't a middle ground for them. Its like its impossible for a game to have both good and bad points today.

    immagikmanpurebredcorn
  • immagikmanimmagikman Member Posts: 664
    @Tanthalas
    I find it isnt just true about Gamers and Devs....Not to get too "real" just look at the political parties in the US....no middle ground, each is portrayed as the Wicked Witch of the West....ie EEEEEVIIIIIL.....so to with gamers and Devs...top it off with a LARGE percentage of the gamers being young and uninformed in how the world works and it gets worse...then add the crowd that thinks no one owns anything and everything should be free and you get yet another level of unreasonable anger.....and on the Dev side its got to be acknowledged that some have been real stinkers.

    TanthalasJaysama
  • BjjorickBjjorick Member Posts: 1,208

    @Bjjorick
    Bill the Cat was the origin of Ack Ack Ack :) I still have a copy of Billy and the Boingers.....I also LOOOVEd Tess Turbo :) But I also got the Mars Attacks reference :) Another classic.

    i thought that was the case (as far as it's origins into mainstream) so that's where my mind went. I still have alot of posters and a few books signed by the creator.

    But my favorite has always been bill the communist cat :D

    immagikmanJaysama
  • Awong124Awong124 Member Posts: 2,643
    While I admit to occasionally downloading games, I only download them to try than and see if they're any good. If I end up liking it, I would always go out and buy it to support the developers. Although now I don't even do that very often anymore, seeing as games that I don't buy right away usually drop to like $20-$30 if I wait a while anyway, I'd just go and buy it if I'm somewhat interested in it. I think the last game I downloaded was Mass Effect 1, and I ended up going out and buying it anyway.

  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    @immagikman

    I didn't want to bring politics into this, but yeah, its the same thing.

    immagikmanJaysama
  • BjjorickBjjorick Member Posts: 1,208
    @awong124
    when my comp starts to get old but i won't be able to upgrade it for another year or two (say 5 year old fx card, 10 year old mb, etc) i might download a game to see how well i can run it. If i can't run it as a level i can enjoy, i'll delete the game and won't pick it up.

    I hate that there are no more demos, and canyourunit.com has let me down a few times in the past.

    Jaysama
  • Awong124Awong124 Member Posts: 2,643
    @Bjjorick
    I think most games actually make demos available. At least before the actual launch anyway. I don't know if they pull the demos after the game actually goes on sale.

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