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DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
edited March 2016 in The Road to v2.0
Got questions about the coming release? Post them here! Answers will be compiled and attached to this post as needed.

Is the release date the same as SoD? @charlienail

We're aiming to release the 2.0 update a little bit before SoD's official launch. No exact dates have been set, but the goal is to have the patch in everyone's hands in time for the SoD release.

When will Android beta testing begin? @Airman1991

Nothing's set in stone, but we do intend to hold beta testing on Android before releasing the update on that platform.

Have the issues with the Quick Loot bar been fixed? @Franpa

Yes. The Quick Loot bar should be working much better now. If you have the opportunity to test it out for yourself I highly recommend it; if there's something about the feature that still feels off to you, submit a bug report through Redmine.

Has the bug been fixed where a character's number of attacks don't get reset after a magical weapon is depleted or dispelled? @DregothofTyr

Yes.

Has the bug been fixed where the screen will shake in smaller areas when the zoom level is too far out? @DregothofTyr

Yes.

Has the bug been fixed where characters walk into each other during battle? @DregothofTyr

The pathfinding has been fixed, yes. I recommend testing it out for yourself, though, so you can report any lingering issues that you may find.

I also highly recommend taking a party into the Firewine Ruins or the Ulcaster School with this beta. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Can I disable the UI changes? @DregothofTyr

The design of the various UI screens is set; there's no way to revert them in-game to what they were before. However, the new UI system makes it a much easier proposition to change the way screens are laid out and designed; if you liked the old Character Record, there's a good change you or someone from the modding community can recreate that layout here.

When it comes to screen functionality a lot of things can be turned on or off through the various Options menus. Do some exploring and if an option is missing that you wish were there, submit a ticket on Redmine for it!

Can we use Baldur.lua to perform more complicated Lua scripts to run in-game? @CrevsDaak

As far as I know, baldur.lua is just there to set user configuration settings. There is functionality there for you to set variables, which makes it possible to do some things with mods that you couldn't do before, but I don't think it allows you to write functions and have them be executed in-game. I could be mistaken, though; if you want to know more, ask again and I'll see about grabbing one of the programmers during the week.

Will the journal functionality be similar to that of original BGII? @Silverstar

The Journal screen has been completely redesigned from the ground up. I recommend taking a look at it in the beta, but the function of it is a lot more intuitive than it was before.

Does this update add ay opcodes or scripting actions and triggers, or any new externalizations that modders can make use of? @Grammarsalad

Yes! In fact, I tried to separate out all of these "modder-friendly features" in the Enhancement lists.

Since the App Store has increased the app size limit, will the iPad version now be rendered in retina? @iKrivetko

I think I understand what you mean, but I'm not certain and I don't want to risk misinterpreting. Could you be more specific about what you mean by "rendered in retina"?

Do fighter/mages still lose spell slots when they use Melf's Minute Meteors or another spell that creates a magic weapon? @iKrivetko

I believe they do, and from what I understand this isn't a bug. But I'll be happy to double-check for you; just ask again and I'll snag one of the programmers for a more complete answer.

Will this update feature any new enhancements specific to tablets? @Luke93

I don't know of any tablet-specific features in this update, but that doesn't mean tablet-specific enhancements aren't on their way.

Is it possible to use Azuredge, Dwarven Thrower and similar weapons for dual wield in 2.0? @vnkwerjau

Yes, if you equip them in your main-hand slot. I'm not certain, but I think that weapons with a Thrown ability are still restricted from being equipped to the off-hand slot.

Why was Sun Soulray changed to a single-target effect? @Flashburn

In conversations with the designer of the Sun Soul Monk kit, we discovered that the ability was always intended to be single-target. Somewhere between design and implementation it was shifted; all we've done is shifted it back.

If you think the shift makes the ability too weak, of course, please let us know by either submitting a Feature ticket on Redmine or starting a discussion thread in this forum. Fans of the Shadowdancer will know that we're willing to listen to players if there's significant feedback. Let your voice be heard!

Can we expect "marked circles" for Area of Effect spells as an optional thing to turn on/off? @O_Bruce

Not in this update. But if it's something you feel strongly about, I highly recommend submitting a Feature ticket on Redmine, or starting a discussion thread about it in this forum.

Is the OriginalClass() trigger just a trigger or can it be used to make changes to that bit as well? @subtledoctor

It's just a trigger. If there's something specific you want to be able to do, though, please submit a Feature ticket in Redmine. I can't promise it will be implemented, but we'll at least take a look.

I don't see a certain bug listed in the change log. Does that mean it wasn't fixed? @Doubledimas

Not necessarily. The change log that's currently posted is preliminary; it's a quick grab of everything that was ready to be documented. There's hundreds more listings that just need to be sorted, sifted, and rewritten for the purposes of documentation. That's a big part of what I'll be doing this week, is getting the final list of bug fixes posted.

Something was fixed in the code for BGII:EE or IWD:EE, but it's not mentioned in the change log here. Why is that? (Specific example: pathfinding) @joeblow

Anything that's been fixed in the code will be populated across all Infinity Engine games whenever they're updated, because they all use the same codebase.

(in layman's terms, the code is the Infinity Engine itself; the specific bits like items and spells are what we call data, and those are different for each game.)

So you probably won't see code changes from 1.3 listed in this change log, because strictly speaking they were already fixed before the work on 2.0 was started. Pathfinding is one such fix. If you have questions about other code changes that you're not sure if they made it into this update, feel free to ask!

Why isn't the Priest of Tempus in this update? @bengoshi

Time, mostly. It's a kit that we want to include, but it involves migrating resources over from IWD:EE (unlike the Priest of Tyr, whose special abilities were already in the files for BGII:EE). So, short answer: the kit is coming, just not in this update because there were other things that were more pressing to get in.

Is this beta event under NDA? @Adul

No, the Road to v2.0 event is not under NDA. Feel free to post screenshots on Twitter and Facebook, talk about the beta with your friends, post links to your tumblr account, blog about it on LiveJournal (people still use LiveJournal, right?)...

We have private beta testers who are under NDA, but they know what they're not allowed to talk about. Anything in this forum is fair game.

Is this Road event just for BG:EE and BGII:EE? What about SoD and IWD:EE? @BelegCuthalion

This event is for BG:EE and BGII:EE only. SoD is being handled through private beta testing, since it features story elements that need to remain a secret. IWD:EE didn't require an update for the release of SoD, since you can't import a game from SoD into IWD:EE.

That doesn't mean an update for Icewind Dale isn't coming, of course. Just that it's not being tackled as part of this event.

Why is the Multiplayer broken? Will it ever be fixed? @thelovebat

Short answer: multiplayer is hard. :tongue:

Longer answer: The multiplayer experience in 1.3 is reasonably stable, and our goal for 2.0 is to meet or beat that same level of stability. Right now we're tackling a few issues that came up as a result of some other code changes in 2.0, but those should all be fixed by the time this release goes "live".

Do companion stats now carry from BG1 to BG2? Like if I give someone else the stat tomes in BG1 will that still affect their stats in BG2? @Messi

Not in this release, no. But it's something that we're looking at--whether or not we do it, of course, is a separate question (and one that I can't really answer at this point).

Can scripting now detect diseased creatures? @Nixos

Yes. @Tresset found the specific fix number for this one.

Are the new portraits only in the BGEE beta (to which I don't have an access)? I don't see them with DLTC in the BG2EE beta Portrait.bif? @bengoshi

It looks that way, yes. If you want to see them added to BGII:EE, I highly recommend submitting a Feature ticket on Redmine for it.

Will the tablet version finally get a means to rotate party formation with this update? @BelegCuthalion

This feature hasn't been implemented yet, but that doesn't mean it's not in the schedule. I agree with @subtledoctor that you shouldn't have to create a new Feature ticket to let us know this is important (we know it's important), but in this case creating that ticket will help us most by telling us how you would like this feature to work. Even if we don't use your idea, it will help us in determining how best to communicate the new control to players.

Can we get an option to make the quest update window stay visible longer? @Messi

This is an excellent example of something you should create a Feature ticket for. If one of the patch's new features/design changes isn't working the way you want it, create a ticket and let us know how you want it to work.

Can we simulate the Ctrl-click functionality when selecting party members from the roster of portraits? @BelegCuthalion

I'll say the same thing here as above: if you have a specific idea for how you'd like it to work, create a feature ticket in Redmine. (Again, that's not to say that this isn't something we've thought about before, but getting your ideas written down and into our system will give the developers more information to work with.)

Re: Dakkon Zerth Blade and bonus spell slots @Grammarsalad

What I mean by "not a bug" is that any equipped item that grants bonus spell slots is going to stop granting those spell slots as soon as it's no longer equipped. So if an effect forces your character to equip a different weapon (like, say, Melf's Minute Meteors), it's by design that your character will no longer benefit from the effects of the previously equipped weapon, in the same way that removing a Robe of Fire Resistance also removes your resistance to fire. So in that sense, it's working as intended, even if it's not ideal.

Truthfully, putting bonus spell slots on a weapon is probably poor design, given how frequently weapons are swapped out even during combat. To change how this works would involve reexamining how equipment and the Magic Weapon slot work as a whole. (Do you retain all of your equipped weapon's effects? What if your equipped weapon gives you +5 AC, or +2 APR? You probably shouldn't benefit from those effects while using a magical Flame Blade or Shillelagh.)

I have access to the BG:EE or BGII:EE beta through Beamdog, but it's not updating. Is something wrong? @Sam_

Potentially. Start a new thread in this forum and tag @Cerevant - he'll help you figure out what's preventing you from updating, if anything.
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  • OlvynChuruOlvynChuru Member Posts: 2,860
    Will v2.0 make it so that the effects that were originally only in Icewind Dale (such as increasing the damage of a certain damage type) can be used in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2?
    CrevsDaak
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,227
    I think I speak for @bengoshi and @Gotural too when I ask this question. This issue with 3+ multiplayer games... Just how bad is it? Is there an estimate as to when it will be fixed?
    CrevsDaakGoturalJuliusBorisov
  • charlienailcharlienail Member Posts: 15
    Is the release date the same as SoD?
  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 8,227
    Are there some bugs that you did fix that do not appear listed in the changelog for v2 thread?
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Tresset said:

    Are there some bugs that you did fix that do not appear listed in the changelog for v2 thread?

    Yes. The list is preliminary. I'll add posts with the remaining items as time allows.
    TressetCrevsDaakJuliusBorisov
  • Airman1991Airman1991 Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 50
    Will People in the Android beta group on Google + be able to beta test the changes on their tablets, or is the beta only going to be for PC/MAC? Also, if the beta is coming to Android, can we know when? Thanks guys, for letting us help you guys test this. I am one of those people with both a computer version of the games and a tablet version.
  • FranpaFranpa Member Posts: 637
    edited March 2016
    Is the Quick Loot Bar changed so that it no longer automatically scrolls to the end of the list of items when looting any item via it? I did not see mention of this in any of the changelogs though I didn't check the very last one that is specific to BG2. This bug made what was meant to be an awesome feature, an irritation.
    Post edited by Franpa on
  • DregothofTyrDregothofTyr Member Posts: 229
    There are three bugs that have been bothering me in BG2; the one with attacks being set too high after ammo/temporary items run out, the one where the zoom level will cause problems like screen shake on scrolling and black bars on the sides of maps if the zoom level is too far out, and the one where characters constantly walk into each other during battle, which is a pathfinding issue that didn't used to be this bad. Were these fixed?
  • FranpaFranpa Member Posts: 637
    edited March 2016
    The ammo issue (Stat buffs not being lost when running out of enhanced ammo) is reportedly fixed, it's mentioned in the changelog. I don't recall seeing mention of the other 2 issues.
  • DregothofTyrDregothofTyr Member Posts: 229
    Also, is there a way to disable all the new UI stuff?
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155
    Does baldur.lua work as a place for the user/modder to add his/her own Lua scripts to work in-game on the console (like TobEx did)? Sorry to ask this instead of testing it out myself, but 23kB per second ain't gonna download the game any time soon. Also, if such thing is possible, until which extent one would be able to include functions from (I mean "Could I create a Lua library and then load it on the game?")?
  • SilverstarSilverstar Member Posts: 2,207
    Will the journal functionality be similar to that of original BGII? Best iteration so far.
    CrevsDaak
  • GrammarsaladGrammarsalad Member Posts: 2,577
    edited March 2016
    Will there be any added opcodes/actions/triggers/2das/externalizations, etc. in addition to what is now present in iwdee? If so, can you share some details?
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,796
    @Grammarsalad see "Enhancements from Siege of Dragonspear" section of Change Log. You may finds something interesting there.
    Grammarsalad
  • PeccaPecca Member Posts: 2,038
    Cahir said:

    Grammarsalad see "Enhancements from Siege of Dragonspear" section of Change Log. You may finds something interesting there.

    Some very cool things indeed.
  • iKrivetkoiKrivetko Member Posts: 934
    I have been away for a while, so sorry if these have been answered at some point already

    Since the App Store has increased the app size, will the iPad version now be rendered in retina?
    Do fighter/mages still lose spell slots when they use MMM/BBD etc. with the Dakkon Zerth's Blade equipped?
  • _Luke__Luke_ Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 1,522
    Any particular enhancement for tablets? For example, will there be full Bluetooth keyboard support for iPad?
  • vnkwerjauvnkwerjau Member Posts: 28
    Is it possible to use Azuredge, Dwarven Thrower and similar weapons for dual wield in 2.0?
    fistermoley
  • FlashburnFlashburn Member Posts: 1,843
    Was it really necessary to change Sun Soulray back to single-target? It was way more useful as a cone.
    Swifty_Magee
  • O_BruceO_Bruce Member Posts: 2,790
    Can we expect "marked circles" for Area of Effect spells as an optional thing to turn on/off? While I can play BG without it, its existence in Pillars of Eternity has encouraged me to use variety of AoE spells much more often and I think that's good.
  • DoubledimasDoubledimas Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 1,286

    Also, is there a way to disable all the new UI stuff?

    I think all the new UI stuff is toggable.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,331
    Tresset said:

    I think I speak for @bengoshi and @Gotural too when I ask this question. This issue with 3+ multiplayer games... Just how bad is it? Is there an estimate as to when it will be fixed?

    Tresset, if things don't go well, we'll just leave one folder with the current version of BGEE and BG2EE, and will play this version.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited March 2016
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    Abdel_Adrian
  • CrevsDaakCrevsDaak Member Posts: 7,155

    EDIT 2 -

    New Trigger: OriginalClass(O:Object*, I:Class*CLASS) (10930)
    Is this just a trigger, like ToBEx? No corresponding Action so we can actually play around with the OriginalClass field?Original Class as in the class the character was before dual-classing (or just their class if they never dual-classed).
    Abdel_Adrian
  • DregothofTyrDregothofTyr Member Posts: 229
    I actually don't mind the UI stuff in the main play field that they added like the new look of the sprites, but the character record sheet looks terrible, and I think that the new inventory stats window is actually less useful than the old way. I also don't like the new journal window. Will this stuff be toggle-able to the way it was post-1.3 patch or will we have to rely on mods to do that? If so, how easy will it be to mod it back to the way it is currently in BG2?

    Also, was the pathfinding bug improved? Besides the number of attacks with ammo gone bug, the pathfinding issue and the way that small zones would shake when you scrolled up and down in the window are the worst bugs in the current game. Can anyone answer that?

    Really looking forward to the new patches and to SoD by the way, just have a couple concerns about these things because I'm so attached to these games, and I think for the most part that Beamdog have done an excellent job.
  • DoubledimasDoubledimas Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 1,286
    @Dee : looking through the fix list for BG2:EE I noticed that the two known level A bugs (demogorgon on android and dual-classing Cleric --> Ranger) are not present. 2 level B bugs (10731 and 11131) are also missing. Am I correct or am I missing something?
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  • joeblowjoeblow Member Posts: 8
    I bought the two BGEE games two years ago having never played them before. When I got around to starting it up in my backlog, I noticed comments that said BG2EE's improved path finding would make its way into BG1EE with a patch. It's been a long, long time, but I don't think I've seen that happen yet. I still don't see it in the 2.0 patch summary.

    Is improved path finding coming to BG1EE so I can finally start my first play through? Thanks.
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