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  • the9shadowsthe9shadows Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2012
    Roller12 said:

    instead of focusing on story and gameplay, devs will be focusing on making boring politically correct stuff and implementing black disabled deaf NPCs. And who the f*ck wants to play that.

    Way to miss the point, bro. I was talking about the fan reaction, it had nothing to do with the game.

    And...are you part of the development team? Do you know the reason why they decided to add the romance? Do you actually think it's because they are catering to being PC or that it just was something the developers thought about when they were designing the character?

    No offense, but it sounds like you're hiding your own personal problem with homosexuality under the guise of "the developers are too PC". Unless you KNOW the story writers personally and why the character was given a same-sex romance option, you're not on any ground to assume that they did it because "they were caving in to people whining about discrimination".

    In any case, it's in the game already. Don't like it, don't pursue the option.


  • Roller12Roller12 Member Posts: 437
    ye ye, anyone who doesnt want to see X is quite obviously in said X, but "hidden". Totally makes sense. I better go and chop my legs off before NPCs in wheelchairs starts arriving. (no offence against them, its the ones who think they are entitled to be anywhere who are annoying)
  • the9shadowsthe9shadows Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2012
    Only if the NPC has an awesome wheelchair of doom featuring enchanted wheels, spinning blades, and multiple poison-tipped crossbows.
  • ETBETB Member Posts: 7
    I'm surprised they aren't implementing more male romances for female PCs in BG2, having only one was kind of sad for the lady PC.

    With regards to gay/lesbian romances, implementing one just for the sake of doing it is a poor reason to do so; it should come from writing and creating the character. However, being against a specific type of romance because you would never pursue it is hilariously egotistical. The game creators will do as they please, so live and let live. It doesn't affect your being and relationships, unless you're very insecure about your masculine heterosexual existence.

    And to those previously inferring homosexuality being equivalent to bestiality and pedophiles, just stop. Your homophobia is blatant and not in the good spirit of this project and game. Go spew your ignorance to your close friends and family, hopefully none of which are LGBT.
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  • MoiraMoira Member Posts: 173
    edited September 2012
    @Tanthalas - @Shandyr was trying to tag you a couple of posts above but there is an extra space in it, so here's the working tag.

    That said, I'd prefer a cleanup of the silliness like in the post by @Roller12 just above, and the "close watch" that Shandyr was requesting. I hate it if all threads about romances need to be closed because trollers will troll.
  • MoiraMoira Member Posts: 173
    Fact is that there will be at least three possible LIs in BGEE (three at launch, possibly more as DLC and let's not go into mods). At least one of those romances will be available regardless of CHARNAME's gender. We suspect it's one of the male LIs because that's what the devs implied in the AMAA.

    Why there is a "bisexual" LI we don't know. The devs wanted to add one, perhaps to provide for the gamers who would enjoy such content, perhaps due to their own views on equality, perhaps because they simply were interested in writing that character that way.

    Judging by the way romances work in BG2, it's likely that a romance is simple and quick to nip in the bud if one has no interest in playing that content. All romances. I think it highly unlikely that the devs would use BGEE as a podium for any blatant political/cultural agenda. So we're all probably safe there ;)

    @Adul Don't lose hope. This community is not one entity, and there is no hegemony here. Topics tend to attract a great variance of viewpoints, but often the conversations contain awesome things among the buzz. One has to accept that opinions get challenged, but the conversations can get incredibly fruitful.
  • GrayvieGrayvie Member Posts: 49
    Call me a hypocrite, but I wouldn't mind a gay npc at all.
    Have any of you read Scott Pilgrim comic books? Someone like Wallace would be an awesome addition to the party with his wisecracks and different outlook on life.

    What I'm against is the romance with that npc.

    For starters Forgotten Realms is not a really good setting for something like that. How many openly gay characters have you seen in any of the infinity games? And it so happens that your pc and one of your npcs are the only two across entire Sword Coast. Some meating of fate that is.

    Speaking of which. What's so different about gay people? Do they not watch romantic movies like anybody else? They sure can sympathize with a heterosexual couple. So why not play a female pc if you want to romance a male? I think that opiton fullfils that need since normally when a man plays female pc he won't be chasing male romances.
  • MoiraMoira Member Posts: 173
    Grayvie said:

    For starters Forgotten Realms is not a really good setting for something like that. How many openly gay characters have you seen in any of the infinity games? And it so happens that your pc and one of your npcs are the only two across entire Sword Coast. Some meating of fate that is.

    We have no idea what the sexual identity of most characters in IE games is, since it's not relevant in the game and thus isn't addressed. As for fate, heh, in BG of all games it would hardly be a leap ^_^

    Your post touches another issue. I'd also love to see friendship relationships. Not only CHARNAME acting as a therapist for yet another traumatized companion but proper friendships growing over shared adventuring. As a sidenote, I'd like to see a friendship grow within the romance path as well.
  • MoiraMoira Member Posts: 173
    Funny how this thread collects off-topic, @Tanthalas.
  • WonKoWonKo Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2012
    Nothing wrong with there being an option for a gay romance. I think most of us can agree that as long as it done with the character in mind rather than to tick a box then its fine. As with any romanceable character in a game.

    Personally I just enjoy NPC interactions, romances tend to have the most depth of all NPC interactions and therefore satisfy this requirement quite admirably. I'll be interested to see how they write the new characters and whether they have comparable depth if they are romanced or not.

    Also: nice work to everyone who is not being a troll.
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  • JaxsbudgieJaxsbudgie Member Posts: 600
    @WonKo
    It is probably out faults the trolls are still here, no one memorised any Flame or Melfs Acid Arrows! They just keep bloody regenerating!
    I'm off to search some barrels for some magical arrows ...
  • AdulAdul Member Posts: 2,002
    @Moira I don't know, looking at the recent posts I'm not convinced. Just the post 5 places above mine is so spectacularly condescending, generalizing, ignorant, and malignant that I don't see how this conversation could ever have a valid reason to exist anymore.
  • MachineOfLightMachineOfLight Member Posts: 15
    why would they have to keep it to themselves? are you so insecure that you can't handle someone else having a different lifestyle?

    also, it's hardly being implemented into 'every possible nook'n'cranny'..
  • karpaszkarpasz Member Posts: 74
    Dorn is a homo? YAY!
  • karpaszkarpasz Member Posts: 74
    I would like to see more same-sex romance mods. I would be sad if Dorn isn't bi.
  • MachineOfLightMachineOfLight Member Posts: 15
    small-minded folks, gotta love 'em..
  • GrayvieGrayvie Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2012
    Yup. Leave it to mods.

    The main game is supposed to be aimed to please general audience.
    Mods allow you to chisel the game to your own liking.

    I'm not actually saying that the minority should be supressed. I'm saying that the majority should be prioritized. And it's not like I'm saying the same thing in different words. The meaning is actually different.

    That's why I keep on saying that a vanilla game should stick to it's roots and not follow trends of recent rpg's.
  • MachineOfLightMachineOfLight Member Posts: 15
    yeah the meaning is different, but I don't see how the majority is negatively affected by adding something for a minority
  • neur0neur0 Member Posts: 83
    edited September 2012
    beo said:


    Stupid homo promotion pushing itself everywhere, even to game like this. What's next, a bdsm character?

    Viconia is seriously into BDSM and I am perfectly fine with that.

    Some laughs?
  • MachineOfLightMachineOfLight Member Posts: 15
    holy shit, that video is hilarious!
  • MachineOfLightMachineOfLight Member Posts: 15
    most people are unwilling to objectively reflect their personal beliefs and just ape whatever their parents, teachers and friends told them
  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    Going to start reading this one.
  • WonKoWonKo Member Posts: 72
    Gilad said:

    Roller12 said:

    Aside from gays what i really miss is bestiality and pedophilia romances. I think these minority groups deserve a place in this great game too.

    I am afraid that in few years we may find these other perversions you just mentioned in computer games too. All in the name of so called "tolerance" and "equality".
    I'm afraid your churlish slippery slope argument goes both ways (probably much to your horror). By the same logic that "allowing a gay romance would necessitate including ALL kinds of romances", if we start actively removing/censoring gay characters pretty soon we'll have to start removing straight romances... and then character banters... and then dialogue... and then all content whatsoever in the game. It's an inevitable consequence.

  • TanthalasTanthalas Member Posts: 6,738
    serialies said:


    also, why dont you support it for every game ever? is there something wrong with that? you spoke of equality (which extends beyond just this game) so why shouldn't every game have an asian character for the purposes of equality? mind you, i think its a silly idea to have asians everywhere, but its equally silly to use the word equality as a free pass.

    I don't think that "there are other groups that aren't represented" is a good argument to justify why another group shouldn't be represented.
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