I was wondering if for a no-reload run it would be classified as cheating + questions
Arthas
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> Using rolls I was able to achieve when I was a kid (108 for paladins; 104 for fighters on BG2).
> What if I rolled those with an autoreroller? Would that still be considered cheating?
> Are weird dual classes not allowed by normal BG (e.g barbarian\druid) cheating?
> What about roleplaying? Would a barbarian casting spells while under rage be realistic? What if it was a berserker?
> what if these weird dual classes have really hard stats to be asked? Would you mind cheating stats anyway?
> Is there any rule you use\you would plan to offset the cheating part on the stats? For example, play no reload AND hard difficulty AND finish the game under 100 days?
> What if I rolled those with an autoreroller? Would that still be considered cheating?
> Are weird dual classes not allowed by normal BG (e.g barbarian\druid) cheating?
> What about roleplaying? Would a barbarian casting spells while under rage be realistic? What if it was a berserker?
> what if these weird dual classes have really hard stats to be asked? Would you mind cheating stats anyway?
> Is there any rule you use\you would plan to offset the cheating part on the stats? For example, play no reload AND hard difficulty AND finish the game under 100 days?
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In nutshells: this is a single player game, so you decide , that the above ones are cheating or not. As far as you enjoy the game, your choice is how you tweak the rules.
The cases when you should follow certain external rules:
-When you would like to participate in a thread, which contains runs with prefixed restriction
-In multiplayer
Now, how i use to play in the light of your questions:
1,2 - I don't use autoroller. Generally i roll about 100 times, and ditribute stats after the best roll.
3 - I use unmodded class in general, sometimes i change race with EE Keeper (like halfling bard).
4 - I usually can justificate every move my character made roleplaywise. And it's opposite too. A spellcasting barbarian is weird, but you find weird things in the Forgotten Realms. @Grum is good with finding roleplay explanations, if you would like one.
5 - No.
6 - What i've used in previous runs are no-reload and poverty. I enjoyed both.
I would like to add to all of the aboves, that documenting your run adds a nice flavour to your playthrough (it is true for me at least).
I say that you go with what is fun and what makes for a good story. I recently did a solo run of icewind dale where my character started with a +4 returning throwing dagger. Why? Because it drops right before the last boss in the game so I never got to use it. So I found a way to use it to my heart's content.
Is that cheating? No. It's a single player game. I enjoyed it. So it wasn't cheating. It just means that I don't get bragging rights.
So if you can change your game (unlike us poor iPhone players), then go ahead and make a barbarian/Sorceror, a fighter/dragon disciple, a Druid/ranger. Heck, make a dwarven skald who chants grudges or a gnome jester who tells bad jokes until everyone turns blindly homicidal. Just so long as you connect with your character.
Most no-reload players don't use CTRL-8, but functionally speaking, a fighter with a 108 stat total is little different from a fighter with 75 roll that also has 18 STR, DEX, and CON.
I've seen no-reload runs with auto-rolled stats and character builds that are impossible without mods, such as kitted multi-classes and characters who dualed into kits instead of out of them. I've seen both a Fighter->Assassin and an Assassin->Fighter, though only the latter is normally possible.
No-reload runs tend not to involve much roleplaying. A notable exception is @Grum, who I believe completed a no-reload run that was also RP-based. I tend to throw RP stuff out of the window and do whatever is most practical from a survival point of view. I find it funny to act completely out of character just for an extra 2 XP.
Please consider posting your progress in Ygramul's "Maybe this time" no-reload thread. It's standard to mention whether your run has additional mods, restrictions, or "cheats," such as a kitted multi-class with a 108 roll that has to complete the game in 100 days--but don't feel bad giving yourself a little leg-up. No-reload runs are already rather punishing, and most end in failure regardless of the terms.
He also raises a great point about stats. Mechanically speaking, the difference between cha3 and 18 means almost nothing. Just a ring swap in BG2. And yes, most no reload runs end in death. So don't go out of your way to make life harder.
There is a component inside the mod 'scales of balance' that makes each stat worth it. Take a look at it. I think that given this mod, using 108 as start would be a huge cheating deal.
My favorite is to put a 10apr projectile with my Charname ^^