Playing and losing to Aesgarath when wagering XP will cause any character, not just MC, to lose 50k XP. You can do this twice, so now you can have up to two non-MC party members at lvl 41 before the end of SOA. I suppose you could even rush this and do it at the beginning of SOA.
Another nice find! Makes it accessible a lot earlier in the playthrough, and can then take the evil route in Selfishness. lv1 and lv2 are pretty easy at any difficulty and I think Aesgareth does gamble before you've defeated Tahazzar or Karashur.
Expanding on Wild Surge 65, Oops Wrong Spell, the Tanar'ris Death Gaze (SPIN996) can summon Kangaxx (SPIN806) or give you Slayer form (SPIN810) early. Others, like the Cerebus' Moon Dog Howl (SPIN891) can give you the Deck of Many Things Jester effect (50k xp) or give permanent elemental resistances that belong to the Chromatic Demon when they switch forms.
The downside to these is that chances of them happening are extremely low. The upside is that some are game breaking.
There's probably more effects to be discovered. I guess you could craft a truly custom character with enough time.
A side effect of monsters causing the wrong spell from wild surge 65 is that your main char can be removed from the party without the game ending. The Tanari'ri wild surges for 65, mentioned above, can turn them into a bat or kangaxx (for an extra ring) without the end game cutscene occurring.
You can then fill the main char spot by saving and loading the game or by having someone join the party. They become the main char so you can play as another party member. Jan can finally fulfill his destiny as the turnip Bhaalspawn.
Credit goes to nooneyouknow13 on the Baldur's Gate subreddit for taking the Book of Infinite Spells glitch for scribing scrolls to specialized mages and discovering that Sorcerers can scribe scrolls this way and learn additional spells. Also, they pointed out that Wand of Fire can be used instead of the Book of Infinite Spells since it has 2 modes.
I discovered this one a while back, and ... you know, it should be here.
Swindling Djinni
You need an arcane spellcaster with three things for this one.
- Project Image. The more copies memorized, the better.
- Wish. The more copies memorized, the better.
- At least 18 Wisdom. If you don't have that between base stats and equip effects, put a potion of insight in a quickslot.
So, you Project Image. The clone drinks a potion if necessary, and then casts Wish. Many powerful effects ensue, with five options chosen randomly from a list of twenty-five. But there's one wish option that you probably didn't think to try ...
- "Party loses 10000 gold"
That's bad, right? Not when a clone casts the wish. In that case, the party loses nothing and 10000 gold is created on the clone. When it's done casting its spells (all memorized instances of Wish, plus any other buff spells you feel like), attack and kill the clone. Any wish-created items and gold drop, and you can pick them up. If you rolled that "lose gold" option on one of the wishes, you are now 10000 gold richer.
I first stumbled onto this one at the very end of a run - in the Throne of Bhaal itself, where there was no longer any way to spend gold. Oops.
Credit goes to nooneyouknow13 on the Baldur's Gate subreddit for taking the Book of Infinite Spells glitch for scribing scrolls to specialized mages and discovering that Sorcerers can scribe scrolls this way and learn additional spells. Also, they pointed out that Wand of Fire can be used instead of the Book of Infinite Spells since it has 2 modes.
In testing unmodified bg2ee 2.6.6 a Sorcerer can scribe scrolls to their spellbook this way, but the spells do not appear in the menu bar for casting. Another patched exploit bites the dust.
Credit goes to nooneyouknow13 on the Baldur's Gate subreddit for taking the Book of Infinite Spells glitch for scribing scrolls to specialized mages and discovering that Sorcerers can scribe scrolls this way and learn additional spells. Also, they pointed out that Wand of Fire can be used instead of the Book of Infinite Spells since it has 2 modes.
In testing unmodified bg2ee 2.6.6 a Sorcerer can scribe scrolls to their spellbook this way, but the spells do not appear in the menu bar for casting. Another patched exploit bites the dust.
You can still fail to scribe the scroll due to intelligence score in the same way as regular scribing a scroll. And, yes, jmerry is right that you also need to rest after.
I discovered this one a while back, and ... you know, it should be here.
Swindling Djinni
You need an arcane spellcaster with three things for this one.
- Project Image. The more copies memorized, the better.
- Wish. The more copies memorized, the better.
- At least 18 Wisdom. If you don't have that between base stats and equip effects, put a potion of insight in a quickslot.
So, you Project Image. The clone drinks a potion if necessary, and then casts Wish. Many powerful effects ensue, with five options chosen randomly from a list of twenty-five. But there's one wish option that you probably didn't think to try ...
- "Party loses 10000 gold"
That's bad, right? Not when a clone casts the wish. In that case, the party loses nothing and 10000 gold is created on the clone. When it's done casting its spells (all memorized instances of Wish, plus any other buff spells you feel like), attack and kill the clone. Any wish-created items and gold drop, and you can pick them up. If you rolled that "lose gold" option on one of the wishes, you are now 10000 gold richer.
I first stumbled onto this one at the very end of a run - in the Throne of Bhaal itself, where there was no longer any way to spend gold. Oops.
Funny find! Too bad Terminsel in BG2 doesn't have the Wish spell or else you could pull this off at the start of SoA.
Funny find! Too bad Terminsel in BG2 doesn't have the Wish spell or else you could pull this off at the start of SoA.
You can get 2 wish scrolls in WK so if your party is able to go there and survive (the second one is after a tough battle) and you have a mage that can cast PI you can perform the trick in SoA. Put the potion on a quick slot and the 2 scrolls on an other and you should be able to do it maybe 3 times every PI slot as you have also the chance of a free rest from the Wish.
By the way I highly appreciate the trick as I like the ways to play the game in not intended ways and abuse its mechanics as much as I love to play it in the "regular" way, but I think that the trick is not particularly useful as when the party is able to get those Wish scrolls and has a Mage able to cast lev.7 spells usually they have all the money they need, unless you are playing with the Item Upgrade mod obviously.
I prefer other exploits that allow you to get money very early in the game when it is really needed. As an example once i intentionally gave the wrong answer at the bridge in the temple sewers to get every time a +1 Sword as loot then I sold full stacks of those swords to a regular merchants, then stole them, stealing each stack before selling the next one to maximize the earning, to repeat with a fence getting the money to buy the Robe of Vecna that was then sold and stolen first to a regular merchant and then to a fence to repeat the process with the Defender of Easteaven. At the end I had the 2 costly and valuable items almost for free and even some money left in my pocket and if this was not already posted is a new exploit in the tread.
Disclaimer: I never sell/steal multiple times the same item to a fence as doing that allows you to use a single wand from the starting dungeon and few Master Thievery potions to get almost infinite money right at the beginning of chap.2.
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A side effect of monsters causing the wrong spell from wild surge 65 is that your main char can be removed from the party without the game ending. The Tanari'ri wild surges for 65, mentioned above, can turn them into a bat or kangaxx (for an extra ring) without the end game cutscene occurring.
You can then fill the main char spot by saving and loading the game or by having someone join the party. They become the main char so you can play as another party member. Jan can finally fulfill his destiny as the turnip Bhaalspawn.
You need an arcane spellcaster with three things for this one.
- Project Image. The more copies memorized, the better.
- Wish. The more copies memorized, the better.
- At least 18 Wisdom. If you don't have that between base stats and equip effects, put a potion of insight in a quickslot.
So, you Project Image. The clone drinks a potion if necessary, and then casts Wish. Many powerful effects ensue, with five options chosen randomly from a list of twenty-five. But there's one wish option that you probably didn't think to try ...
- "Party loses 10000 gold"
That's bad, right? Not when a clone casts the wish. In that case, the party loses nothing and 10000 gold is created on the clone. When it's done casting its spells (all memorized instances of Wish, plus any other buff spells you feel like), attack and kill the clone. Any wish-created items and gold drop, and you can pick them up. If you rolled that "lose gold" option on one of the wishes, you are now 10000 gold richer.
I first stumbled onto this one at the very end of a run - in the Throne of Bhaal itself, where there was no longer any way to spend gold. Oops.
In testing unmodified bg2ee 2.6.6 a Sorcerer can scribe scrolls to their spellbook this way, but the spells do not appear in the menu bar for casting. Another patched exploit bites the dust.
You can still fail to scribe the scroll due to intelligence score in the same way as regular scribing a scroll. And, yes, jmerry is right that you also need to rest after.
Funny find! Too bad Terminsel in BG2 doesn't have the Wish spell or else you could pull this off at the start of SoA.
By the way I highly appreciate the trick as I like the ways to play the game in not intended ways and abuse its mechanics as much as I love to play it in the "regular" way, but I think that the trick is not particularly useful as when the party is able to get those Wish scrolls and has a Mage able to cast lev.7 spells usually they have all the money they need, unless you are playing with the Item Upgrade mod obviously.
I prefer other exploits that allow you to get money very early in the game when it is really needed. As an example once i intentionally gave the wrong answer at the bridge in the temple sewers to get every time a +1 Sword as loot then I sold full stacks of those swords to a regular merchants, then stole them, stealing each stack before selling the next one to maximize the earning, to repeat with a fence getting the money to buy the Robe of Vecna that was then sold and stolen first to a regular merchant and then to a fence to repeat the process with the Defender of Easteaven. At the end I had the 2 costly and valuable items almost for free and even some money left in my pocket and if this was not already posted is a new exploit in the tread.
Disclaimer: I never sell/steal multiple times the same item to a fence as doing that allows you to use a single wand from the starting dungeon and few Master Thievery potions to get almost infinite money right at the beginning of chap.2.