Totemic Druid's Spirit Animal Stats

System

This discussion was created from comments split from: Totemic druid summons: what’s the difference? Which is best?.

Tresset

Caster Level 1

Bear

Stats: Str 16, Dex 12, Con 14, HP 16
Defenses: Final AC 6, vs. Death 15, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 16, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 17
Resists: Cold 25%
Immunities: Fear, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 17, Base Damage 1d4 slashing, Fear for 8 seconds with save vs. death at +4 to avoid

Lion

Stats: Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, HP 12
Defenses: Final AC 5, vs. Death 15, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 16, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 17
Resists: Electricity 25%
Immunities: Charm, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 16, Base Damage 1d4+1 piercing

Snake

Stats: Str 14, Dex 16, Con 14, HP 8
Defenses: Final AC 1, vs. Death 14, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 16, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 17
Resists: Poison 100%
Immunities: Has Free Action, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Poison
Attacks: APR 1, Base THAC0 16, Base Damage 1d4 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 3 seconds with save vs. death at +3 to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 3 seconds with save vs death at +3 to avoid

Wolf

Stats: Str 13, Dex 15, Con 14, HP 9
Defenses: Final AC 3, vs. Death 14, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 15, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 17
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 25%, Poison 25%
Immunities: Sleep/Unconsciousness, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fatigue
Attacks: APR 1, Base THAC0 17, Base Damage 1 piercing + 1d3 cold

Tresset

Caster Level 3

Bear

Stats: Str 17, Dex 13, Con 14, HP 32
Defenses: Final AC 5, vs. Death 14, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 15, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 16
Resists: Cold 50%, Electricity 25%, Poison 25%
Immunities: Fear, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 16, Base Damage 1d6 slashing, Fear for 8 seconds with save vs. death at +4 to avoid

Lion

Stats: Str 17, Dex 15, Con 14, HP 23
Defenses: Final AC 3, vs. Death 14, vs. Wands 16, vs. Polymorph 15, vs. Breath 16, vs. Spell 16
Resists: Electricity 50%, Cold 25%, Poison 25%
Immunities: Charm, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fear
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 14, Base Damage 1d5+1 piercing

Snake

Stats: Str 15, Dex 17, Con 14, HP 15
Defenses: Final AC -1, vs. Death 13, vs. Wands 15, vs. Polymorph 14, vs. Breath 15, vs. Spell 16
Resists: Poison 100%, Cold 25%, Electricity 25%
Immunities: Has Free Action, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Poison, Petrification
Attacks: APR 1, Base THAC0 14, Base Damage 1d6 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 4 seconds with save vs. death at +2 to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 3 seconds with save vs death at +2 to avoid

Wolf

Stats: Str 14, Dex 16, Con 14, HP 19
Defenses: Final AC 1, vs. Death 13, vs. Wands 15, vs. Polymorph 14, vs. Breath 15, vs. Spell 16
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 50%, Poison 50%
Immunities: Sleep/Unconsciousness, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fatigue, Petrification
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 15, Base Damage 1d2 piercing + 1d4 cold, Paralyze for 3 seconds with save vs. death at +5 to avoid

Tresset

Caster Level 5

Bear

Stats: Str 18, Dex 13, Con 14, HP 48
Defenses: Final AC 4, vs. Death 12, vs. Wands 14, vs. Polymorph 13, vs. Breath 14, vs. Spell 15
Resists: Cold 75%, Electricity 50%, Poison 50%
Immunities: Fear, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue, Has Free Action
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 14, Base Damage 1d6 slashing, Fear for 12 seconds with save vs. death at +4 to avoid

Lion

Stats: Str 18, Dex 16, Con 14, HP 36
Defenses: Final AC 1, vs. Death 12, vs. Wands 14, vs. Polymorph 13, vs. Breath 14, vs. Spell 15
Resists: Electricity 75%, Cold 50%, Poison 50%
Immunities: Charm, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fear, Has Free Action
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 12, Base Damage 1d5+2 piercing

Snake

Stats: Str 16, Dex 17, Con 14, HP 23
Defenses: Final AC -2, vs. Death 11, vs. Wands 13, vs. Polymorph 12, vs. Breath 13, vs. Spell 14
Resists: Poison 100%, Cold 50%, Electricity 50%
Immunities: Has Free Action, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Poison, Petrification, Confusion, Feeblemind
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 13, Base Damage 1d6 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 5 seconds with save vs. death at +1 to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 4 seconds with save vs death at +1 to avoid

Wolf

Stats: Str 15, Dex 17, Con 14, HP 28
Defenses: Final AC -1, vs. Death 11, vs. Wands 13, vs. Polymorph 12, vs. Breath 13, vs. Spell 14
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 75%, Poison 75%
Immunities: Sleep/Unconsciousness, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fatigue, Petrification, Charm, Level Drain
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 13, Base Damage 1d2 piercing + 1d4 cold, Paralyze for 3 seconds with save vs. death at +4 to avoid

Tresset

Caster Level 7

Bear

Stats: Str 18/37, Dex 14, Con 14, HP 72
Defenses: Final AC 3, vs. Death 10, vs. Wands 12, vs. Polymorph 11, vs. Breath 12, vs. Spell 13
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 75%, Poison 75%
Immunities: Fear, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue, Has Free Action, Petrification, Confusion, Feeblemind
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 12, Base Damage 1d8 crushing or slashing, Fear for 20 seconds with save vs. death at +3 to avoid

Lion

Stats: Str 18/68, Dex 17, Con 14, HP 54
Defenses: Final AC -1, vs. Death 10, vs. Wands 12, vs. Polymorph 11, vs. Breath 12, vs. Spell 13
Resists: Electricity 100%, Cold 75%, Poison 75%
Immunities: Charm, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fear, Has Free Action, Confusion, Feeblemind, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 10, Base Damage 1d6+2 piercing or slashing

Snake

Stats: Str 17, Dex 18, Con 14, HP 34
Defenses: Final AC -4, vs. Death 9, vs. Wands 11, vs. Polymorph 10, vs. Breath 11, vs. Spell 12
Resists: Poison 100%, Cold 75%, Electricity 75%
Immunities: Has Free Action, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Poison, Petrification, Confusion, Feeblemind, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 11, Base Damage 1d8 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 5 seconds with save vs. death at +1 to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 5 seconds with save vs death at +1 to avoid

Wolf

Stats: Str 16, Dex 18, Con 14, HP 42
Defenses: Final AC -3, vs. Death 9, vs. Wands 11, vs. Polymorph 10, vs. Breath 11, vs. Spell 12
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 100%, Poison 100%
Immunities: Sleep/Unconsciousness, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fatigue, Petrification, Charm, Level Drain, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty, Poison
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 11, Base Damage 1d2 piercing + 1d6 cold, Paralyze for 5 seconds with save vs. death at +3 to avoid

Tresset

Caster Level 10+

Bear

Stats: Str 18/83, Dex 14, Con 14, HP 96
Defenses: Final AC 2, vs. Death 8, vs. Wands 10, vs. Polymorph 9, vs. Breath 10, vs. Spell 11
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 100%, Poison 100%
Immunities: Fear, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue, Has Free Action, Petrification, Confusion, Feeblemind, Charm, Poison, Level Drain, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty, Normal Weapons
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 10, Base Damage 1d10 crushing or slashing, Fear for 30 seconds with save vs. death at +3 to avoid, counts as +6 magical weapon

Lion

Stats: Str 19, Dex 18, Con 14, HP 72
Defenses: Final AC -3, vs. Death 8, vs. Wands 10, vs. Polymorph 9, vs. Breath 10, vs. Spell 11
Resists: Electricity 100%, Cold 100%, Poison 100%
Immunities: Charm, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fear, Has Free Action, Confusion, Feeblemind, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty, Poison, Level Drain, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue, Petrification, Normal Weapons
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 8, Base Damage 1d8+2 piercing or slashing, counts as +6 magical weapon

Snake

Stats: Str 18, Dex 18, Con 14, HP 45
Defenses: Final AC -5, vs. Death 7, vs. Wands 9, vs. Polymorph 8, vs. Breath 9, vs. Spell 10
Resists: Poison 100%, Cold 100%, Electricity 100%
Immunities: Has Free Action, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Poison, Petrification, Confusion, Feeblemind, Sleep/Unconsciousness, Fatigue, Charm, Fear, Level Drain, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty, Normal Weapons
Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 9, Base Damage 1d10 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 6 seconds with save vs. death to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 6 seconds with save vs death to avoid, counts as +6 magical weapon

Wolf

Stats: Str 16, Dex 20, Con 14, HP 56
Defenses: Final AC -4, vs. Death 7, vs. Wands 9, vs. Polymorph 8, vs. Breath 9, vs. Spell 10
Resists: Cold 100%, Electricity 100%, Poison 100%
Immunities: Sleep/Unconsciousness, Polymorph, Sphere of Chaos, Fatigue, Petrification, Charm, Level Drain, Death Magic, Nature's Beauty, Confusion, Feeblemind, Fear, Poison, Has Free Action, Normal Weapons
Attacks: APR 3, Base THAC0 9, Base Damage 1d4 piercing + 1d6 cold, Paralyze for 7 seconds with save vs. death at +1 to avoid, Level Drain 1 level permanently with save vs. death at +5 to avoid, counts as +6 magical weapon

Klorox

Looking forward to this final product!

Enuhal

There's also this link if you don't want to wait, but it's not entirely accurate - for example, I can say from experience that the spirit animal's claws don't count as magical weapons until you get to the level 10 version:
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/31754/totemic-druid-summon-stats

Tresset

Enuhal said:

but it's not entirely accurate

Exactly why I am doing this.

Tresset

It is now complete.

Balrog99

Great job @Tresset!
Do these stats hold true for IWDEE as well as BGEE?

JuliusBorisov

Balrog99 said:

Great job @Tresset!
Do these stats hold true for IWDEE as well as BGEE?

They should.

BelgarathMTH

Thanks, @Tresset . This formatting makes it easier to compare the animals with each other at each level break separately.

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bob_veng

@Tresset
(snake lvl10) "Attacks: APR 2, Base THAC0 9, Base Damage 1d10 piercing, Poison 2 damage/sec for 6 seconds with save vs. death to avoid, Poison 2 damage/6 secs for 6 seconds with save vs death to avoid, counts as +6 magical weapon"

is this correct? what does it mean, poison checks twice vs death?

Tresset

@bob_veng No, there are actually two separate poison effects that the snake inflicts (which is why the snake's attack states the target is poisoned twice). There is only one save for both effects though, so it is either succeed at both or fail at both. The second poison effect (which does 2 damage every 6 seconds) actually rarely does anything. See, the level 10 snake's poison lasts for 6 seconds and, since the second poison only damages at the end of every 6 second period the effect often wears off before the poison damage is actually done. Thus the level 10 snake most often does 12 poison damage with its attack. In rare occasions, however, it will do a total of 14 poison damage with its attack. Also keep in mind that haste speeds up the effect of poison and slow retards it. So if someone is hasted they are far more likely to take extra poison damage from the second effect.

Honestly, IMHO the second poison effect should probably just be removed from the snake's attack as it seems to do very little.

bob_veng

thx, interesting... why do you think the second poison effect was added in the first place?

Tresset

@bob_veng I honestly couldn't say... Whoever designed the various leveled versions of these animals would have to answer that. Since the leveled versions were added by Beamdog, I think one of the devs may know, but I am not sure who designed them.

Necromanx2

Is there a reason that the Bear seems to be so bad relative tho the rest?
Worst: AC (by allot), damage (when you take poisons, cold, special effects, and strength bonus into account), and THAC0.
The only superior thing he has is HP, which goes fast given the crappy AC.

bob_veng

yeah, they should have given the bear more hitpoints. ~120 would have made the bear legitimate fodder