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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    You know what's funny while in quarantine? Getting an three hour long blackout. The day gets even better when after the blackout neither internet nor phones work for ten hours straight. At least this newfound digital isolation gave me a reason to modify my OSB terrariums.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    Grond0 wrote: »
    Boris Johnson admitted to hospital for Cv-19 following 10 days of persistent symptoms.

    He's now been moved into the Intensive Care Unit. There's not much information about his condition - a statement from Downing Streets says: “Over the course of this afternoon, the condition of the prime minister has worsened and, on the advice of his medical team, he has been moved to the Intensive Care Unit at the hospital." However, he wouldn't be taking up an ICU bed unless his condition was relatively serious. The Foreign Secretary is now formally deputising for him.

    I get the feeling this is alot more serious than 10 Downing Street is letting on. If the Foreign Secretary has been deputized, if that's anything like what would have to happen for the VP to take over in the US, that would mean Johnson is not capable of carrying out his duties.
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,508
    edited April 2020
    No matter how good you are, icu means instant outsourcing. The environment will not allow you to do your work there whilst being under constant surveillance. Good thing too I'm sure.

    I suppose, best wishes for health recovery to all.
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 549
    I hope that he has a speedy recovery. This is not being insensitive, but he never looked all that healthy. Fingers crossed and prayers that he comes through this, that we all come through this okay.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    Was reminded today about the following NWN:EE achievement:

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    I wonder who in Florida took this seriously...
    https://globalnews.ca/news/6784573/coronavirus-rental-car-fire-florida/
  • BelleSorciereBelleSorciere Member Posts: 2,108
    edited April 2020
    So this guy is a genuine MD and runs an educational channel to educate people. Usually he dramatizes a real life case study to explain various ways things can go wrong in the human body. In this case, he's talking about the couple who took aquarium tablets after Trump said that hydroxychloriquine could cure covid-19.

    Quite educational. Also, he explains his super saiyan hair in the pinned comment on the video. I also especially hope it might provide enough context for a more compassionate view of what happened with this couple.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILowf7Tw7QY
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    Update on Boris Johnson that nobody has mentioned so far. He is on oxygen but not on a ventilator. We are told that he was moved to the icu after his symptoms worsened and in case he needed to be put on a ventilator at some point in the course of his treatment.

    TR
  • BlackbɨrdBlackbɨrd Member Posts: 293
    Scary how far things have progressed.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    On the plus side, here in Michigan I'm finally starting to notice less people out and about. At 8 this morning the traffic looked more like you'd see at 6AM on a Sunday.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963
    Update on Boris Johnson that nobody has mentioned so far. He is on oxygen but not on a ventilator. We are told that he was moved to the icu after his symptoms worsened and in case he needed to be put on a ventilator at some point in the course of his treatment.

    TR

    Correct me if I'm wrong but if you are actually put on a ventilator, your condition and odds of survival are very low at that point. It's a significant step.

    People aren't put on ventilators as a precaution or as a routine.

    So BoJo not being on one is a good thing for him.
  • ZaxaresZaxares Member Posts: 1,325
    You know what's funny while in quarantine? Getting an three hour long blackout. The day gets even better when after the blackout neither internet nor phones work for ten hours straight. At least this newfound digital isolation gave me a reason to modify my OSB terrariums.

    The last time I had a total power and internet blackout (which was several years ago, back in Australia during a period of unprecendented flooding that knocked out power to substations), I wound up turning to my sizeable collection of D&D manuals and thinking about new adventures I could send my players on. Truly, D&D is always there for us. ;)
    Correct me if I'm wrong but if you are actually put on a ventilator, your condition and odds of survival are very low at that point. It's a significant step.

    People aren't put on ventilators as a precaution or as a routine.

    So BoJo not being on one is a good thing for him.

    You're pretty much right. If you're put on a ventilator, it basically means your lungs have stopped working on their own and you'd be dead without the advanced technological intervention of the ventilator. I can't say I'm really a supporter of Boris Johnson, but I do hope he recovers from this. Hearing stories from survivors who've been on ventilators, it's a terrifying feeling being in that situation.
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    edited April 2020
    There is one other step that is usually reserved for heart surgery - ECMO (don't know what that stands for). It requires both specialist machinery and a highly specialist team. Basically what it does is to oxygenate a persons blood but outside of the body. In the UK there are a few centres around the country that have this but not many.

    TR
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,508
    edited April 2020
    Probably something like "Extra corporeal membrane oxygenation" the membrane meaning the external means of diluting oxygen into the blood outside the body.
    I have not heard that in years. I thought that was not necessary anymore
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    The children's heart surgery unit in Leicester's (pronounced Lester's) Royal Infirmary in the UK is (we are told) a world centre of excellence in the use of ECMO. Other than that it is used for those patients (of any age) whose lungs have failed but can with the assistance of ECMO heal if given time.

    TR
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    Encouraging new study of anti-viral medications used for AIDS also possibly useful in treating Covid 19.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200406120130.htm
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963
    "They literally leavin' us in here to die. [The nurse] told me be prepared, half the unit is about to die." - Ohio Prisoner live streams from smuggleded phone the dire situation in prison, shows his sick inmates and a tent sent up in the basketball court for dead bodies.

    NSFW language.
    https://youtu.be/NTv_YYQkg50
  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 324
    The University of Colorado School of Medicine has begun plasma serum infusion on one patient. The hope being that the antibodies in the blood plasma of someone who has recovered from covid-19 wil be effective for the recipient. Meanwhile... my coworkers are convinced it's a lefty plot. No joke, seriously.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963
    The Trump administration is stealing medical supplies intended for at least 5 countries — including a small Caribbean island. Countries are accusing the US of blocking or taking medical equipment they desperately need to fight the coronavirus:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-accused-of-diverting-medical-equipment-from-countries-2020-4

    Not only is the Trump administration hindering international efforts, they are also stealing supplies from American States:
    Although President Trump has directed states and hospitals to secure what supplies they can, the federal government is quietly seizing orders, leaving medical providers across the country in the dark about where the material is going and how they can get what they need to deal with the coronavirus pandemic.
    Hospital and clinic officials in seven states described the seizures in interviews over the past week.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-07/hospitals-washington-seize-coronavirus-supplies
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    Gavin Newsom has had enough of the bullshit and has simply put in a massive bid for 200 million masks per month for the foreseeable future from overseas. He is suggesting they may be able to facilitate all the other Western states as well. California stepping in where the federal government is flat-out refusing to act.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,725
    While it's hard to separate politics from it, please try doing so when posting in this thread. It's the angle which is important, how you present the news.
  • ArviaArvia Member Posts: 2,101
    Update on Boris Johnson that nobody has mentioned so far. He is on oxygen but not on a ventilator. We are told that he was moved to the icu after his symptoms worsened and in case he needed to be put on a ventilator at some point in the course of his treatment.

    TR

    Correct me if I'm wrong but if you are actually put on a ventilator, your condition and odds of survival are very low at that point. It's a significant step.

    People aren't put on ventilators as a precaution or as a routine.

    So BoJo not being on one is a good thing for him.

    I haven't found any statistics about the percentage of people dying on a ventilator in relation to the number of people on a ventilator.
    My very limited personal experience with the very few patients we've been treating on a ventilator so far in our little hospital was that they weren't difficult to ventilate per se, even the 80 years-old. One of the problems is that they need to stay on the ventilator for a longer time than, let's say, people with influenza or bacterial pneumonia, which leads to secondary problems.
    Also, the biggest problem seems to be the number of people needing intensive care as opposed to the number of ICU beds with a ventilator.
    Being but on a ventilator isn't a death sentence, even with Covid-19. Of course it's not a good sign, but lots of people died in some countries because they needed a ventilator and there weren't enough.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    We finally have gotten a nice day here in Michigan. I've opened every window in the house and am now sitting in my easy chair listening to the sounds of Spring. The birds and frogs are really sounding loud with the lesser road noise. Quite relaxing. At least the rest of nature isn't affected by Coronavirus...
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    We finally have gotten a nice day here in Michigan. I've opened every window in the house and am now sitting in my easy chair listening to the sounds of Spring. The birds and frogs are really sounding loud with the lesser road noise. Quite relaxing. At least the rest of nature isn't affected by Coronavirus...

    It's not likely outside your front door, but you saw where Tigers and big cats are getting infected with coronavirus? Beware cats, there's a whole lot we don't know about the virus! :/

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/06/828517076/a-tiger-has-coronavirus-should-you-worry-about-your-pets
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    edited April 2020
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    We finally have gotten a nice day here in Michigan. I've opened every window in the house and am now sitting in my easy chair listening to the sounds of Spring. The birds and frogs are really sounding loud with the lesser road noise. Quite relaxing. At least the rest of nature isn't affected by Coronavirus...

    It's not likely outside your front door, but you saw where Tigers and big cats are getting infected with coronavirus? Beware cats, there's a whole lot we don't know about the virus! :/

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/06/828517076/a-tiger-has-coronavirus-should-you-worry-about-your-pets

    My kitty doesn't leave the house. I let her 'escape' to the garage once in a while to whet her appetite for adventure (it usually takes about 10 minutes before she's begging to be let back in).
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,508
    EU legislation forbids pet cats to stray outdoors. They are a danger to nature.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    lroumen wrote: »
    EU legislation forbids pet cats to stray outdoors. They are a danger to nature.

    Good luck enforcing that. Cats are natural escape artists, especially if you have kids! That's why I let mine 'escape' into the garage once in a while...
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,963
    lroumen wrote: »
    EU legislation forbids pet cats to stray outdoors. They are a danger to nature.

    And pregnant women.
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