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[BG:EE]Dark Horizons Released

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  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,131
    I haven't found any broken areas. The broken items can easily be fixed with NI. The problem with them being overpowered can easily be solved by not using the overpowered items or by you editing them yourself in NI.

    StummvonBordwehr
  • AionZAionZ Member Posts: 3,247
    Maybe you don't consider it broken but the areas aren't converted properly to .pvrz so the seams between tiles are visible and there are often FPS and crash issues.

    If items are so badly made that you have to fix them yourself (and there are a LOT of stupid items included) then that says something about the mod to me.

  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,131
    I have wondered about fixing the items and making them available here but don't know if that would be legal. I do know that the way they were made was quite careless. The weapon type is often wrong and they aren't useable by the correct classes. However that is VERY easily remedied. I could remedy those and I'm no modder!

  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,131
    I went all the way up to Ulgoth's Beard just to recruit Thorin. He joined without error. But I did have to change his spawn global. You have to accept Hurgan's quest to go to Durlag's Tower for Thorin to appear.

    But before that I kept having my ass handed to me from the elf encounter at the Baldur's Gate bridge and I'm a level 4 party. I'll have to dumb them down.

    I don't know if the version that I have from EET is dumbed down, but it doesn't seem that difficult. Yes, I avoid them until I need to go to BG, but they just need decent tactics. You might have already dumbed down the version that is in EET.

  • HenaniganHenanigan Member Posts: 29
    I have wondered about fixing the items and making them available here but don't know if that would be legal. I do know that the way they were made was quite careless. The weapon type is often wrong and they aren't useable by the correct classes. However that is VERY easily remedied. I could remedy those and I'm no modder!

    Hello,
    Without sharing actual files, would you consider sharing information on what to search for in NearInfinity, what values to change and (not least importantly) what would be good replacement values, in order to fix items in this mod / make them less overpowered? I'm new to modding BGEE and wouldn't know where to start, but this may be a good way to learn.
    Thanks!

  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,131
    edited November 2019
    The major things that need changing are:
    1) Who can use the items. They are often unusable by the very people that they are designed for.
    2) What category the weapon is in. (Swords, flail etc.)
    3) If you want to make them less powerful you might just want to remove some of their extra abilities.
    e.g. There is a +3 short sword (CMSWQ08) which holds the victim if it doesn't save after it is wounded. The +3 might be better as +2. That is debatable. It might also be better if there was only a 50% chance of holding.
    These sort of things are not set in stone but the opinion of the player/modder. If you change such things, you also need to change the description otherwise there will be complaints.
    Making all +3 weapons into +2 weapons is a good idea, either that or making the item undropable.
    There are also +3 sorcerer's staves CMSTAF01 with 25% chance to petrify targets and +3 katanas (MA1SW02) that have a 10% chance of petrification. Not sure which mod that last one comes from as I think the items from this mod all start with CM.
    What you need to remember is that whatever you do, there will be those who disagree with your choices. To reduce the number of complaints you could give players a choice as to how to change items.
    Whilst the petrification makes an item very powerful, you need to remember that if a target is petrified, you lose the loot from the body, so it is not quite as good a weapon as it at first seems.
    If you reduce the power of the weapon remember that you are also reducing the ability of the foe who was wielding it. It is these interrelationships that make modding difficult. You will NEVER please everyone.

    StummvonBordwehr
  • HenaniganHenanigan Member Posts: 29
    Thanks for replying!
    I am in no hurry to actually release anything, so the only one complaining about my modding skills would be me. :) I've read here and elsewhere about issues with the mod, so I thought, why not try and fix them for myself? But there are many people out there who are more experienced than I am as to what would the best way to fix them. There are many things to consider. :) Thanks again!

    Wise_Grimwald
  • StummvonBordwehrStummvonBordwehr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 960
    edited April 2020
    Apparently there are some issues with this mod and SCS. The AI component won’t install if I have installed Dark Horizons.

    Would someone be able to fix that ?

    Edit:
    Actually it was a single that corrupted it for me.I deleted the file from my override folder, and it work. The file name was:

    CMSTQ04.ITM

    Dont know what it did, but I will have to without it

    Post edited by StummvonBordwehr on
  • CeresCeres Member Posts: 1
    I'm trying just now this mod (with almost all the other mod supported by EET, and SCS, xTweak, Ascension), i want to see the story, play new area, etc.
    For now, i have meet Tristan and Isolde just now, hard battle for a 6 PC (all lv1 Dwarf F/C, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron e Xzar).

    First round
    Spell "command" to Tristran and "sleep" to all, Khalid and Dwarf tanking melee Isolde;
    Isolde oneshot Xzar (SCS better IA, so good this mod)

    Second round
    "sleep" work to Tristran, so two round in a row unconscious (first "command", second "sleep"), but fail with Isolde, and her almost kill my Dwarf, i step back with him and use a "healing potion"

    Third round
    Isolde Kill Khalid
    I kill both


    Now see the loot, and WTF, too powerful equipments!

    1d8+3 +1d4
    THAC0 +2
    100% chance to hold opponent with failed save
    +2 attacks

    and

    1d4+3
    THAC0 +2
    5 attacks for round

    Armour +1
    Shield +1

    Nonono, unbalanced as hell, those item are for late SoA, not for Beregost.

    My2c, balance the equipments man, it's not ok, i will continue to play the mod, but the only way for my to play this, is to edit with Near Infinity almost every equipment of your NPC before the battle.

  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,131
    Ceres wrote: »
    I'm trying just now this mod (with almost all the other mod supported by EET, and SCS, xTweak, Ascension), i want to see the story, play new area, etc.
    For now, i have meet Tristan and Isolde just now, hard battle for a 6 PC (all lv1 Dwarf F/C, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron e Xzar).

    First round
    Spell "command" to Tristran and "sleep" to all, Khalid and Dwarf tanking melee Isolde;
    Isolde oneshot Xzar (SCS better IA, so good this mod)

    Second round
    "sleep" work to Tristran, so two round in a row unconscious (first "command", second "sleep"), but fail with Isolde, and her almost kill my Dwarf, i step back with him and use a "healing potion"

    Third round
    Isolde Kill Khalid
    I kill both


    Now see the loot, and WTF, too powerful equipments!

    1d8+3 +1d4
    THAC0 +2
    100% chance to hold opponent with failed save
    +2 attacks

    and

    1d4+3
    THAC0 +2
    5 attacks for round

    Armour +1
    Shield +1

    Nonono, unbalanced as hell, those item are for late SoA, not for Beregost.

    My2c, balance the equipments man, it's not ok, i will continue to play the mod, but the only way for my to play this, is to edit with Near Infinity almost every equipment of your NPC before the battle.
    Ceres wrote: »
    I'm trying just now this mod (with almost all the other mod supported by EET, and SCS, xTweak, Ascension), i want to see the story, play new area, etc.
    For now, i have meet Tristan and Isolde just now, hard battle for a 6 PC (all lv1 Dwarf F/C, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron e Xzar).

    First round
    Spell "command" to Tristran and "sleep" to all, Khalid and Dwarf tanking melee Isolde;
    Isolde oneshot Xzar (SCS better IA, so good this mod)

    Second round
    "sleep" work to Tristran, so two round in a row unconscious (first "command", second "sleep"), but fail with Isolde, and her almost kill my Dwarf, i step back with him and use a "healing potion"

    Third round
    Isolde Kill Khalid
    I kill both


    Now see the loot, and WTF, too powerful equipments!

    1d8+3 +1d4
    THAC0 +2
    100% chance to hold opponent with failed save
    +2 attacks

    and

    1d4+3
    THAC0 +2
    5 attacks for round

    Armour +1
    Shield +1

    Nonono, unbalanced as hell, those item are for late SoA, not for Beregost.

    My2c, balance the equipments man, it's not ok, i will continue to play the mod, but the only way for my to play this, is to edit with Near Infinity almost every equipment of your NPC before the battle.

    If you have editted those items, you could post them somewhere if that's allowed, then others wouldn't have to.

    When I take on Trisan and Isolde I usually use web or command to disable them. Once that is done, it doesn't matter how powerful that short sword is.

    StummvonBordwehr
  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 584
    @CoM_Solaufein
    Greetings! How EET compatible is this mod? Does the latest version include @StummvonBordwehr ‘s fix mentioned above? What about item rebalancing?

    Thankee!

  • TeskalTeskal Member Posts: 10
    I can't find the mod. Could someone provide a link to the newest version?

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