Can't we just say it'll be a a 'Surprise'? Everybody likes surprises right?
@Streamhopper The whole insult discussion could have been avoid if you said 'Appear like slackers' instead of actually calling people slackers.
Well I never said they were, I said they come over as or I'll quote myself :"come over as slackers" "and only to ppl who themselves are in a competitive environment" but as you just proved it seems words start to live their own life even when it's litteraly on the previous page. But this is completely off topic.
Oh sure we will! I've been waiting patiently for the game to run on my PC since I preordered. Not that's their fault that I have an Intel Netbook hahaha
Does anyone know whether the Linux version is formally in the works? The most I've seen is a non-committal tweet about there being progress. At this rate it might be released after BGEE2 if at all.
Again, updates to Steam take weeks instead of hours because they have to go through Atari first. It simply isn't feasible.
So why not give Atari the open Beta version and the option to get the work done to release it on steam any way? Or is the Open Beta scheduled to only last a week or two thus making the steam release of a beta useless to you guys?
Here's the micro version of what would happen.
Day 1: Open Beta is released to Beamdog customers. Day 2: A bug is found, and the Beta is updated to fix it. Day 3: A couple more bugs are found, and the Beta is updated to fix them. Day 4: Fifteen bugs are discovered and fixed, and the Beta is updated. Day 5: No new bugs are discovered, but an update is released anyway to fix some thirty-five bugs that have previously been reported. Day 6: Five new bugs are fixed; Beta is updated. Day 7: A new feature is implemented for testing. Day 8: Saturday; the team takes the weekend off. Day 9: Open Beta is released to Steam customers. Day 10: Steam customers report the bug from Day 2, because they're playing with a week-old build. Steam customers also report that the feature implemented on Day 7 isn't in the game (which it obviously won't be for another week). Day 11: Chaos, I guess?
Let's say we catch and fix a hundred bugs in that first week. Now the Steam version's "Open Beta" is entirely useless because A) we don't know if it's a bug that still occurs in the current build, and we don't know if it's a bug that we've already fixed. (And also C) we don't know if it's a bug that's caused by something goin awry with Steam.)
But it's actually worse than useless, because now we have to spend several hours tracking down all the bugs being reported on the Steam version to see if they're the same as the ones that have already been fixed in the Beamdog version. And that continues for every beta update that gets delayed.
If you want to participate in the Open Beta, buy the Beamdog version and grab the client. If you don't want to do that, then you'll get the patch when it's polished and ready for release. There's nothing wrong with not participating in the Beta, but when you make the choice to purchase through Steam you're choosing the convenience of having your games in one location (and, more than likely, a highly discounted purchase price), over the perk of receiving patches on-time and (in this case) participating in public betas.
are you serious ????
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK , OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
Really? Your genius solution is to delay every patch update by a week to get Steam players involved? Really?
@Magic88255 Hum, for your information, EVERY games/update works that way... Steam version ARE different and need to be "printed" (like an hand print or a finger print) by Steam (or ATARI)... (Well, most of them if not all). Take Neverwinter, for example... The updates where done and ready to publish but it took time (about a week if I remember right) before they hit the web... Why? Cause ATARI (Neverwinter's publisher) had to retest it and put their print on it too... Other examples? Take Bethesda's game: Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim... Guess why the patch was always "later" on, when NOT on PC... As it is with Steam, they needed to pass by a middle man, Microsoft, Sony, Steam, or whoever...
So everything about non sense, not really... Simpler example? A product is built... Will the developer have it first, or will companies (with distributors and such) have it first... Simple selling/buying logic... To me, it's like the difference between Ebay and a shopping mall!
Again, updates to Steam take weeks instead of hours because they have to go through Atari first. It simply isn't feasible.
So why not give Atari the open Beta version and the option to get the work done to release it on steam any way? Or is the Open Beta scheduled to only last a week or two thus making the steam release of a beta useless to you guys?
Here's the micro version of what would happen.
Day 1: Open Beta is released to Beamdog customers. Day 2: A bug is found, and the Beta is updated to fix it. Day 3: A couple more bugs are found, and the Beta is updated to fix them. Day 4: Fifteen bugs are discovered and fixed, and the Beta is updated. Day 5: No new bugs are discovered, but an update is released anyway to fix some thirty-five bugs that have previously been reported. Day 6: Five new bugs are fixed; Beta is updated. Day 7: A new feature is implemented for testing. Day 8: Saturday; the team takes the weekend off. Day 9: Open Beta is released to Steam customers. Day 10: Steam customers report the bug from Day 2, because they're playing with a week-old build. Steam customers also report that the feature implemented on Day 7 isn't in the game (which it obviously won't be for another week). Day 11: Chaos, I guess?
Let's say we catch and fix a hundred bugs in that first week. Now the Steam version's "Open Beta" is entirely useless because A) we don't know if it's a bug that still occurs in the current build, and we don't know if it's a bug that we've already fixed. (And also C) we don't know if it's a bug that's caused by something goin awry with Steam.)
But it's actually worse than useless, because now we have to spend several hours tracking down all the bugs being reported on the Steam version to see if they're the same as the ones that have already been fixed in the Beamdog version. And that continues for every beta update that gets delayed.
If you want to participate in the Open Beta, buy the Beamdog version and grab the client. If you don't want to do that, then you'll get the patch when it's polished and ready for release. There's nothing wrong with not participating in the Beta, but when you make the choice to purchase through Steam you're choosing the convenience of having your games in one location (and, more than likely, a highly discounted purchase price), over the perk of receiving patches on-time and (in this case) participating in public betas.
are you serious ????
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
Yea right, Beamdog has a secret strategy here to make people want to buy the PC version on their website rather than wait a few extra weeks (having waited for a major patch since January) for the patch to arrive on steam...
If you didn't want to wait you shouldn't have bought it on steam. That ones on you. You went to a third party distributor rather than from the developer. It was entirely your fault for not inquiring about how patching has been on steam up until now (in the past it has been delayed by weeks compared to Beamdog).
The notion that Overhaul/Beamdog would delay releasing a patch for (under your system) an extra week is not practical. You are assuming that there won't be occasional updating during the beta when they find bugs (which is something Dee already alluded to). Every time they need to put out another update they would have to go through Atari/Steam, so if it takes as much as a week to get everything approved with each update/patch that could mean delays for weeks just so that steam is involved. Doesn't seem worth it to me. Why not also then include the Apple Store and Ipad users? (the answer being of course delays, delays, delays)
Beamdog have been re-writing the renderer (namely to address Ipad and Intel chipset lag from AoE spells) and coming up with a new UI. Also this beta patch will help them improve the game prior to the next patch being released to broader audiences on Ipads, Macs, and other distributors like Steam, so I'm really not seeing where you are coming from here. I'd hardly call that not caring a bit about your customer.
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............
But that would further delay the final patch, by weeks, for EVERYONE. Can you imagine the agony of the Mac users, the iPad users, and especially of those poor, long-suffering Android users?
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
Uhh. Don't listen to this guy. I'm quite happy with the Beamdog version and do not want to be forced to play the game on Steam. Especially since, with the Beamdog version, I'll get all the patches quicker. :-D AM I RITE, PEOPLE!?
It amazes me how many people get angry about the fact that they won't be able to play BETA of something.
You do realize that beta will be jammed full of bugs, possibly crashes, and generally things not working as intended, right? I wouldn't be surprised if it simply didn't work at all for the first day or two!
(And I'm not saying this to rag on Overhaul Games, this is exactly what betas are for and it's the same no matter the game or developer)
This isn't a case of "They will get the patch before me". I don't have the Beamdog version but even if I did I still would wait for the official release - because I like when games work as intended and are not a buggy mess.
Really, people, you're essentially complaining that someone can move in an unfinished apartment block before you and point out the flaws in room layout to be fixed when you do move in. It's idiotic.
Again, updates to Steam take weeks instead of hours because they have to go through Atari first. It simply isn't feasible.
So why not give Atari the open Beta version and the option to get the work done to release it on steam any way? Or is the Open Beta scheduled to only last a week or two thus making the steam release of a beta useless to you guys?
Here's the micro version of what would happen.
Day 1: Open Beta is released to Beamdog customers. Day 2: A bug is found, and the Beta is updated to fix it. Day 3: A couple more bugs are found, and the Beta is updated to fix them. Day 4: Fifteen bugs are discovered and fixed, and the Beta is updated. Day 5: No new bugs are discovered, but an update is released anyway to fix some thirty-five bugs that have previously been reported. Day 6: Five new bugs are fixed; Beta is updated. Day 7: A new feature is implemented for testing. Day 8: Saturday; the team takes the weekend off. Day 9: Open Beta is released to Steam customers. Day 10: Steam customers report the bug from Day 2, because they're playing with a week-old build. Steam customers also report that the feature implemented on Day 7 isn't in the game (which it obviously won't be for another week). Day 11: Chaos, I guess?
Let's say we catch and fix a hundred bugs in that first week. Now the Steam version's "Open Beta" is entirely useless because A) we don't know if it's a bug that still occurs in the current build, and we don't know if it's a bug that we've already fixed. (And also C) we don't know if it's a bug that's caused by something goin awry with Steam.)
But it's actually worse than useless, because now we have to spend several hours tracking down all the bugs being reported on the Steam version to see if they're the same as the ones that have already been fixed in the Beamdog version. And that continues for every beta update that gets delayed.
If you want to participate in the Open Beta, buy the Beamdog version and grab the client. If you don't want to do that, then you'll get the patch when it's polished and ready for release. There's nothing wrong with not participating in the Beta, but when you make the choice to purchase through Steam you're choosing the convenience of having your games in one location (and, more than likely, a highly discounted purchase price), over the perk of receiving patches on-time and (in this case) participating in public betas.
are you serious ????
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
Does anyone know whether the Linux version is formally in the works? The most I've seen is a non-committal tweet about there being progress. At this rate it might be released after BGEE2 if at all.
Especially since, with the Beamdog version, I'll get all the patches quicker. :-D AM I RITE, PEOPLE!?
Sometimes however, DRM-Free does not always mean better. See Divinity: Dragon Commander and GOG: Delayed patches (GOG takes too much time to approve patches) + no matchmaking (because Matchmaking is based on Steam's server and profile list... bleh...).
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
Are YOU serious? So you suggest that not only does Beamdog wait 9 days (initially) before starting the beta just so Steam players can participate, but they actually delay each and every fix by nine days just so Steam players can report bugs (a report no longer needed, because those bug were already reported nine days ago, and which can only lead to confusion besides)?
Or are you suggesting that beamdog release a placebo beta on steam, one that they will pay no attention to, because its reports are redundant?
You not only post without thinking what you are posting, you are also doing so rudely and impertinently. Shame on you.
Again, updates to Steam take weeks instead of hours because they have to go through Atari first. It simply isn't feasible.
So why not give Atari the open Beta version and the option to get the work done to release it on steam any way? Or is the Open Beta scheduled to only last a week or two thus making the steam release of a beta useless to you guys?
Here's the micro version of what would happen.
Day 1: Open Beta is released to Beamdog customers. Day 2: A bug is found, and the Beta is updated to fix it. Day 3: A couple more bugs are found, and the Beta is updated to fix them. Day 4: Fifteen bugs are discovered and fixed, and the Beta is updated. Day 5: No new bugs are discovered, but an update is released anyway to fix some thirty-five bugs that have previously been reported. Day 6: Five new bugs are fixed; Beta is updated. Day 7: A new feature is implemented for testing. Day 8: Saturday; the team takes the weekend off. Day 9: Open Beta is released to Steam customers. Day 10: Steam customers report the bug from Day 2, because they're playing with a week-old build. Steam customers also report that the feature implemented on Day 7 isn't in the game (which it obviously won't be for another week). Day 11: Chaos, I guess?
Let's say we catch and fix a hundred bugs in that first week. Now the Steam version's "Open Beta" is entirely useless because A) we don't know if it's a bug that still occurs in the current build, and we don't know if it's a bug that we've already fixed. (And also C) we don't know if it's a bug that's caused by something goin awry with Steam.)
But it's actually worse than useless, because now we have to spend several hours tracking down all the bugs being reported on the Steam version to see if they're the same as the ones that have already been fixed in the Beamdog version. And that continues for every beta update that gets delayed.
If you want to participate in the Open Beta, buy the Beamdog version and grab the client. If you don't want to do that, then you'll get the patch when it's polished and ready for release. There's nothing wrong with not participating in the Beta, but when you make the choice to purchase through Steam you're choosing the convenience of having your games in one location (and, more than likely, a highly discounted purchase price), over the perk of receiving patches on-time and (in this case) participating in public betas.
are you serious ????
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense I don't believe you your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game) why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ? say goodbye to multiplayers.... I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version this in really mess up ! welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
1° - It's the right of any customer to complain, and if he found himself outraged by Beamdog politicy, it's his right to voice it in open. I don't think his post is abusive as some ppl vouch but then, each one with his/her own mind in the subject.
HOWEVER
2°.1 - Steam version is independent and answer directly to ATARI. When Beamdog sales where shut down, ATARI and Steam sales where still working at full speed, so in fact while beamdog revamped the game, you're not an directly client of Beamdog but a client from steam, if you want refunds, ask them.
2°.2 - Beta test isn't a right, officialy the product isn't out for the customers, if they wanted to launch a close beta patch, would be their right.
2°.3 - Steam versions can show bugs from the steam engine itself, and then how would we know which bug is from Steam and which is from the game itself? I support a beta test for steam only AFTER we reach an alfa patch for the game here in beamdog engine, but then, these costs should be supported by STEAM not by beamdog and you have to go post in STEAM forum this request.
@Dee gave a fun answer with an subject too serious, as this patch, apparently in reason of company issues, took so much time to be released, maybe that enraged the guy, but the fact is that this game is out already, you paid for the game (to steam) you got the game, the patch to which you're entitled also, by the own virtual adhesion contract, don't have an agreed timeline for it's release. That's the facts, deal with it or no it's your choice @Magic88255.
Ps: but i seriously think that anyone with BG:EE Team member badge shoudn't be making fun with the subject, it's something serious that need a professional approach, make fun with the subject harm the company image (and you ppl represent the company), so ppl with blue post screen, be more seriously in the comments on a frustrated client (even if it's an indirect client).
@Magic88255 I'm sorry you're disappointed with the way the Steam version is being handled (we are too, in some ways), but I hope you can understand why what you suggested simply isn't feasible.
I would also like to remind everyone that the rules about flaming, trolling, and respect apply to everyone, even when you're addressing someone you feel is being disrespectful. If you have a problem with a user, please send me a PM instead of attacking them directly on the forums.
Workaround idea: Can you release a special client that requires authentication against a steam account possessing a specific game? Runic Games did it with Torchlight 2 for their non-Steam Matchmaking Service (if you bought it via Steam and need to register a Runic account, which requires either a CD-Key or a link to a Steam account that possesses the game).
I know it's a little more work, but that way you are not giving out "free games". You still need either a Beamdog version or a Steam version. Linking can be unique to prevent piracy (a steam account can only be linked to one Beamdog account)
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@Streamhopper The whole insult discussion could have been avoid if you said 'Appear like slackers' instead of actually calling people slackers.
I'm still here and I guess you are too if you're reading this.
Because it plays beautifully on my computer. Just sayin'.
are you serious ????
just send the beta to atari/steam WAIT one WEEK,update the Beamdog versionm OPEN the beta to everyone. get feedback, build a patch, send it to atari/steam, wait one week, update the Beamdog version and so on............ you guys need a better manager....
your micro version is bullshit/non-sense
I don't believe you
your doing this to get more cash (am not going to buy two time the same game)
why in the nine hell would you want 2 different version of the same game ?
say goodbye to multiplayers....
I say ditch the Beamdog version or give all the steam user a key for the Beamdog version
this in really mess up !
welcome in 2013!
ps and don't come at me saying : "but we did not know about the steam version..." WELL ... YOU SHOULD HAVE !, it is entirely your fault for not asking. now deal with it
I have paid the same price as everyone I expect to get the same stuff as everyone
now if you tell me that your not going to take care of the steam version am going to get a refund via my credit card and tell everyone to download your game via torrent because you guys do not care a bit about your customer.
Hum, for your information, EVERY games/update works that way... Steam version ARE different and need to be "printed" (like an hand print or a finger print) by Steam (or ATARI)... (Well, most of them if not all). Take Neverwinter, for example... The updates where done and ready to publish but it took time (about a week if I remember right) before they hit the web... Why? Cause ATARI (Neverwinter's publisher) had to retest it and put their print on it too... Other examples? Take Bethesda's game: Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim... Guess why the patch was always "later" on, when NOT on PC... As it is with Steam, they needed to pass by a middle man, Microsoft, Sony, Steam, or whoever...
So everything about non sense, not really...
Simpler example?
A product is built... Will the developer have it first, or will companies (with distributors and such) have it first... Simple selling/buying logic... To me, it's like the difference between Ebay and a shopping mall!
If you didn't want to wait you shouldn't have bought it on steam. That ones on you. You went to a third party distributor rather than from the developer. It was entirely your fault for not inquiring about how patching has been on steam up until now (in the past it has been delayed by weeks compared to Beamdog).
The notion that Overhaul/Beamdog would delay releasing a patch for (under your system) an extra week is not practical. You are assuming that there won't be occasional updating during the beta when they find bugs (which is something Dee already alluded to). Every time they need to put out another update they would have to go through Atari/Steam, so if it takes as much as a week to get everything approved with each update/patch that could mean delays for weeks just so that steam is involved. Doesn't seem worth it to me. Why not also then include the Apple Store and Ipad users? (the answer being of course delays, delays, delays)
Beamdog have been re-writing the renderer (namely to address Ipad and Intel chipset lag from AoE spells) and coming up with a new UI. Also this beta patch will help them improve the game prior to the next patch being released to broader audiences on Ipads, Macs, and other distributors like Steam, so I'm really not seeing where you are coming from here. I'd hardly call that not caring a bit about your customer.
You do realize that beta will be jammed full of bugs, possibly crashes, and generally things not working as intended, right? I wouldn't be surprised if it simply didn't work at all for the first day or two!
(And I'm not saying this to rag on Overhaul Games, this is exactly what betas are for and it's the same no matter the game or developer)
This isn't a case of "They will get the patch before me". I don't have the Beamdog version but even if I did I still would wait for the official release - because I like when games work as intended and are not a buggy mess.
Really, people, you're essentially complaining that someone can move in an unfinished apartment block before you and point out the flaws in room layout to be fixed when you do move in. It's idiotic.
I think I am one of the few persons waiting the Linux version for buying BG:EE
Are YOU serious? So you suggest that not only does Beamdog wait 9 days (initially) before starting the beta just so Steam players can participate, but they actually delay each and every fix by nine days just so Steam players can report bugs (a report no longer needed, because those bug were already reported nine days ago, and which can only lead to confusion besides)?
Or are you suggesting that beamdog release a placebo beta on steam, one that they will pay no attention to, because its reports are redundant?
You not only post without thinking what you are posting, you are also doing so rudely and impertinently. Shame on you.
HOWEVER
2°.1 - Steam version is independent and answer directly to ATARI. When Beamdog sales where shut down, ATARI and Steam sales where still working at full speed, so in fact while beamdog revamped the game, you're not an directly client of Beamdog but a client from steam, if you want refunds, ask them.
2°.2 - Beta test isn't a right, officialy the product isn't out for the customers, if they wanted to launch a close beta patch, would be their right.
2°.3 - Steam versions can show bugs from the steam engine itself, and then how would we know which bug is from Steam and which is from the game itself? I support a beta test for steam only AFTER we reach an alfa patch for the game here in beamdog engine, but then, these costs should be supported by STEAM not by beamdog and you have to go post in STEAM forum this request.
@Dee gave a fun answer with an subject too serious, as this patch, apparently in reason of company issues, took so much time to be released, maybe that enraged the guy, but the fact is that this game is out already, you paid for the game (to steam) you got the game, the patch to which you're entitled also, by the own virtual adhesion contract, don't have an agreed timeline for it's release. That's the facts, deal with it or no it's your choice @Magic88255.
Ps: but i seriously think that anyone with BG:EE Team member badge shoudn't be making fun with the subject, it's something serious that need a professional approach, make fun with the subject harm the company image (and you ppl represent the company), so ppl with blue post screen, be more seriously in the comments on a frustrated client (even if it's an indirect client).
I'm sorry you're disappointed with the way the Steam version is being handled (we are too, in some ways), but I hope you can understand why what you suggested simply isn't feasible.
Regardless, threatening to pirate the game is neither a respectful way to conduct yourself on our forums, nor is it within the rules we've laid out (rather explicitly) here: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/comment/312654/#Comment_312654
I would also like to remind everyone that the rules about flaming, trolling, and respect apply to everyone, even when you're addressing someone you feel is being disrespectful. If you have a problem with a user, please send me a PM instead of attacking them directly on the forums.
I know it's a little more work, but that way you are not giving out "free games". You still need either a Beamdog version or a Steam version. Linking can be unique to prevent piracy (a steam account can only be linked to one Beamdog account)