That's predicted, however people can always change their mind at the ballot box. No regions have finished counts yet, ballots only closed 90 minutes ago.
How free can you freekin get. The UK has freedom coming out of its ears. Scotts get more government money per head, £1,200 per year, spent of them than the rest of the UK. This is unfair! I want to be free from the Scotts!
Take it back... They need the extra money to pay for ferries, planes and roads to get to isolated communities... Can't blame 'em for living in a hard unforgiving land...
it was a joke, not a serious statement... honestly, I just like Braveheart. The mooning scene was awesome.
I don't really have an opinion. It has like zero effect on my life and I don't have nearly as much information as I'd need to form an opinion on the matter. I just like Mel Gibson making angry speeches with a Scottish accent
Very interesting. I have no clear idea either way, both have merits, both have cons. . . I'm interested however that if it is close, which at the moment it's not TOO far apart and the vote is to remain in the Union, will it create resentment from those who wanted to be independent and now aren't going to be? It looks to be a fairly large portion of the population. . . It could divide the population in an unhealthy way for a long long time. . .
It's interesting to follow all this voting. In Russia we've got used to knowing the winner before any voting starts. So, no matter what the result in Scotland will be, this voting is much more free and "independent" (pun intended) than we can imagine in our land.
By the way, I think that the current result (54,28% after 26 of 32 counts) is for the good. Here, in Russia we can only dream of being a part of such a strong from economic point of view country:)
They gave people a vote on a real issue, and surprise surprise, highest turn out in decades.
Quite glad! The outrage for another independence issue draws near...
Just noted some comments on the monarchy being German? Not really. They are a mixture of Dutch, French and German. Many monarchies in other countries claim to be English because of many daughter's and sons of Queen Victoria. Who cares? As long as I don't need to vote for some jerk who thinks they are better than me and should be the president... Prefer a queen forced to do the job by birth...
EDIT: This my opinion. Pretty sure there have been some good presidents as sure as there have been bad Kings. I am more for a powerless, if privileged, top dog. Keeps everyone serving the same cause and not a different person every couple of years. And if I was in a country without a monarchy? Well I'd think it would be too late to get one now! It would be worse than a presidential election if not a bloodbath.
Way down south in sunny Kent I can say the sentiment is not as such. Most English are happy Scotland has stayed despite nearly half the Scottish population rejecting the English
There's more talk around attempts to vote to separate England from London etc...
despite nearly half the Scottish population rejecting the English
The smilie suggests you're trying to be sardonic but I feel compelled to reiterate that that's not what the referendum was about, and it cheapens the whole process to reduce it to that.
Being Canadian, I am glad that Scotland voted No for thwir referendum, however, if I ws fromhe UK, I would scrutinize the current parliament for giving greater concessions for voting No.
Canada has been through his with Quebec and that province has been holding the rest of Canada hostage with demands and the threat of separation since the 60s.
Here is hoping the Scott's don't do the same to the UK
@Anduin, would you prefer it if the monarchy had real power again? I've always wondered whether it would be more efficient to have a monarchy ruled by someone like Queen Elizabeth II then a government of petty fools. I don't think there's much doubt that Prince William would be a pretty damn good King. Charles would probably be pretty good to. Though I don't think he has the common touch with the masses William and Harry do. But that's just the perspective of someone from the colonies.
Although I don't know much on the topic I remember the English had some pride in the fact that their monarchy produced less insane nut jobs then other countries, not entirely insanity free, but mostly.
That being said, if there comes a time you do have an insane king or queen, it's much harder to get rid of them. The petty fools are up for reelection every few years. . .
Maybe a hybrid method, where they have some responsibility and accountability to the people. . .
im calling for a second referendum this time the rest of the UK is voting on whether we want to keep the scots
Case in point.
Honestly, I thought he was just joking around, not being belligerent or anything like that. We say that all the time here about places like Massachusetts, Texas and New York City
Honestly, I thought he was just joking around, not being belligerent or anything like that. We say that all the time here about places like Massachusetts, Texas and New York City
Maybe I reacted hastily then. Emotions are running high here.
Honestly, I thought he was just joking around, not being belligerent or anything like that. We say that all the time here about places like Massachusetts, Texas and New York City
Maybe I reacted hastily then. Emotions are running high here.
thx for picking up on that, @booinyoureyes I was indeed just messing around sory if it upset you @Jairyanna
Egg ----> face. Sorry for being so quick to take offence. It's just you wouldn't believe how many comments I've seen like that (and far, far worse) that were not in jest.
National and cultural identities are a fundamental part of who we are, I think that's why people are so sensitive about them. When someone attacks one's nationality, it feels deeply personal; it's natural to be protective of that. Hence, all the tension there is in the world
To protect the tribe is only natural @Jairyanna . It is your extended family. I presume you would wan to protect your family.
To attack another person, just because they belong to another tribe, is unnatural. If you need proof, bring a bunch of 5 year olds together from all over the world and they will happily play with each other. I've seen it.
HOWEVER!
To denigrate and shamelessly gossip about other people who support another football team, live in a different city, have an accent etc etc... And then boasting about your own, Is mostly done, for one reason and one reason only.
To say you belong to a better tribe.
And a little... A LITTLE... competition is no bad thing.
Actions in the end though speak louder than words.
And if you do support Birmingham City football club... We feel sorry for your poor, poor mother who must feel so ashamed...
These are my own thoughts... It must be said Birmingham and Aston Villa rivalry has ended in violence in the past, but only because some people seek to make rivalry a provocation for violence. Which it need not be in the slightest.
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You can track progress here;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/scotland-decides/results
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/live/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-results-live-coverage-of-the-independence-vote#block-541b4af0e4b06074cd7171c9
How free can you freekin get. The UK has freedom coming out of its ears. Scotts get more government money per head, £1,200 per year, spent of them than the rest of the UK. This is unfair! I want to be free from the Scotts!
I don't really have an opinion. It has like zero effect on my life and I don't have nearly as much information as I'd need to form an opinion on the matter. I just like Mel Gibson making angry speeches with a Scottish accent
By the way, I think that the current result (54,28% after 26 of 32 counts) is for the good. Here, in Russia we can only dream of being a part of such a strong from economic point of view country:)
They gave people a vote on a real issue, and surprise surprise, highest turn out in decades.
Quite glad! The outrage for another independence issue draws near...
Just noted some comments on the monarchy being German? Not really. They are a mixture of Dutch, French and German. Many monarchies in other countries claim to be English because of many daughter's and sons of Queen Victoria. Who cares? As long as I don't need to vote for some jerk who thinks they are better than me and should be the president... Prefer a queen forced to do the job by birth...
EDIT: This my opinion. Pretty sure there have been some good presidents as sure as there have been bad Kings. I am more for a powerless, if privileged, top dog. Keeps everyone serving the same cause and not a different person every couple of years. And if I was in a country without a monarchy? Well I'd think it would be too late to get one now! It would be worse than a presidential election if not a bloodbath.
I think living next door to France clouds the British view on presidents somewhat...
EDIT: As in Mr Guillotine.
There's more talk around attempts to vote to separate England from London etc...
Canada has been through his with Quebec and that province has been holding the rest of Canada hostage with demands and the threat of separation since the 60s.
Here is hoping the Scott's don't do the same to the UK
Although I don't know much on the topic I remember the English had some pride in the fact that their monarchy produced less insane nut jobs then other countries, not entirely insanity free, but mostly.
That being said, if there comes a time you do have an insane king or queen, it's much harder to get rid of them. The petty fools are up for reelection every few years. . .
Maybe a hybrid method, where they have some responsibility and accountability to the people. . .
Power should stay with the people within the state. Be it only to choose people to wield power for them.
National and cultural identities are a fundamental part of who we are, I think that's why people are so sensitive about them. When someone attacks one's nationality, it feels deeply personal; it's natural to be protective of that. Hence, all the tension there is in the world
To attack another person, just because they belong to another tribe, is unnatural. If you need proof, bring a bunch of 5 year olds together from all over the world and they will happily play with each other. I've seen it.
HOWEVER!
To denigrate and shamelessly gossip about other people who support another football team, live in a different city, have an accent etc etc... And then boasting about your own, Is mostly done, for one reason and one reason only.
To say you belong to a better tribe.
And a little... A LITTLE... competition is no bad thing.
Actions in the end though speak louder than words.
And if you do support Birmingham City football club... We feel sorry for your poor, poor mother who must feel so ashamed...