I played BG2 before BG1, and I couldn't stop laughing when I met Minsc. So when I started BG1, I brought him along and was totally disappointed at his lack of funny content, so I understand where you're coming from, @Grey_Lion. I ended up ditching him for Kivan or Ajantis during that playthrough.
In BG2, he is certainly not the best, but that makes him even better in my opinion. Even though he's not the BEST, he's still useful in any combat role (BG1 or BG2), and he's great comic relief (BG2).
As far as BG1 is concerned, I can't even play BG1 without the BG1NPC project anymore. IMHO, the modders did an incredible job of capturing the character concepts of the NPCs that bioware portrayed in BG1 and BG2, especially and including Minsc.
Minsc is popular (in my opinion) because he is a lighthearted, funny character that still manages to blend with the mostly serious world of Baldur's gate. Also hamster, that helps.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish.
You know, whenever I see a game "intended for mature audiences," I read, "ACTUALLY intended for teen and pre-teen boys." It seems kids tend to want boobies & blood, not levity.
That said, comic relief can be hard to do. Minsc gets on a lot of people's nerves, as Jan does mine. It's easy to screw up and accidentally make a Jar Jar Binks.
EDIT: I should add that Jan annoys me because he's right inline with the semi-steampunkish Tinker Gnome trope introduced with Dragonlance, and used by everyone since.
I think one of the key reasons Minsc and Boo are so popular is that they are genuine nice guys. Yes, they are great comic relief, but with a heart too. Many heroic types get caught up in some crusade for moral virtues, or some cause or other, and the story needs to keep hitting that point. Minsc and Boo retain a child like naivety, where good is good, evil is evil, and for stomping on. There is no deep thinking, as befits his stats, just clean simple, know-them-by-their-actions evil-stomping. Plus, he loyal as he trusts you completely. That is very appealing for a good party play through.
@Blucher - Jan used to annoy the heck out of me too. It always annoyed me that I could not find a thief who would advance levels to the end of the game, as I always forgot he even existed! My usual answer was to Thief-up myself in some way.
Since picking up the Enhanced Editions though, I have actually played with him for the first time. Maybe I've mellowed in the intervening decade, or maybe I've just been exposed to more annoying characters since, but I have genuinely enjoyed his contributions. Of course, it is also possible that having played out all the other NPCs years ago, his remained fresh for me to discover But I was genuinely entertained, which was not the case a decade ago, and the only one who might have changed is me...
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
I've not played any of the other games in the series, but to be fair, DA:O has a few moments where it isn't afraid to put its undies on its head and say "wibble"... I thought the inter-party dialogues were actually pretty funny.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
I've not played any of the other games in the series, but to be fair, DA:O has a few moments where it isn't afraid to put its undies on its head and say "wibble"... I thought the inter-party dialogues were actually pretty funny.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
On the dark and edgy fantasy business, I can't fully agree with what you have stated, yes fantasy is in a darker place at the moment, but the two examples you picked don't make much sense to me. The Dragon Age series is filled with humor, a lot of random lore, ester eggs and a whole lot of interparty banter was placed for humorous effect. Although there are no strictly joke characters a lot of characters have a humorous side,
Morrigan's lack of understanding anything involving people or society, while being well versed in so much magical lore and history, made me giggle on a few occasions.
Alister is a pretty funny guy, if you can get behind overly corny jokes.
Shale's supercilious nature coupled with her disdain for all squishy flesh creatures, especially pigeons.
Merril's whimsical naivete.
Varrick and his razor sharp wit.
Iron Bull's interparty dialogues with pretty much anybody besides Solas are really funny.
Sera, just Sera.
On the topic of the Witcher, yes the world is dark and Geralt is a emotionless mutant as a side effect of the mutagens he took to become a Witcher, but the world is filled with humorous things, more so in the W3 wild hunt than any of the previous games. Geralt throws out some seriously cringe worthy lines from time to time and sometimes attempts to tell jokes, his lake of emotion making them all the more funny. Here are some funny things in the Witcher 3,
spoilers ahead.
First time you go down to the Bloody Baron's basement (normally while doing the Family Matters quest), you pass a couple guards who are talking to each other...
Guard One: Bring out the gimp. Guard Two: The gimp's sleepin'. Guard One: Well, wake him up.
Trolololo is a troll you meet and do quests for.
While exploring some Elven Ruins, Geralt stumbles across a skeleton, examines it, laughs and says "Tomb Raider".
Drunk soldiers: "To puke or not to puke, that is the ...(question)"
Three farty rock trolls, "stomach problems from eating bad nekker" named Jessie, Dodger and Joe.
Silver Pantaloons, random reference to BG.
In Novigrod I heard a poor beggar complaining of his livelihood being taken away when someone cured his leprosy
When fighting bandits, one of them said "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries."
A letter about a witcher of the cat school called Schrödinger who "might be alive, might be dead."
So Witcher humor is largely based on pop culture reference and is generally more of a easter egg sort of thing, but is most definitely there. Also since the Witcher doesn't have a real companion system so it's a lot harder to throw out random humorous conversation, it's there but you have to go and find it. Sometimes Dandelion can be funny and Zoltan is always good for a laugh. Oh yeah Dijkstra's sarcastic natural and love of the theater were amazing, everything that came out of his mouth was gold.
So even if fantasy is dark and edgy, there will always be comedy in it somewhere, if the writers are any good.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
I've not played any of the other games in the series, but to be fair, DA:O has a few moments where it isn't afraid to put its undies on its head and say "wibble"... I thought the inter-party dialogues were actually pretty funny.
Yeah, Dragon Age: Origins is definitely not without comic relief. My favorite moments come from Dog. Alistair, Morrigan, and Sten have some hilarious interactions with him, the things you can get him to fetch for you are often hilarious joke items, and his "personal" quest involves needing to pee on landmark oak trees on every map to mark his dominance to other Mabari hounds.
I think Dog is one of my favorite characters in DA:O for the same reason that Minsc is one of my favorite characters in BG - the aforementioned comic relief.
The issue is this: fantasy has been going through what I call a "crisis of maturity." For a long time, fantasy (like sci-fi) was confined to a literary "ghetto." With the exception of a few authors like Tolkien, it was generally considered Disney-esque children's escapism or something embarrassingly adolescent - shirtless, muscle-bound barbarians with nubile vixens clinging to their legs and that sort of thing.
So in effort to make fantasy "grown-up" and to get out from under Tolkien's shadow, we have authors like GRRM, Joe Abercrombie, Richard Morgan, et. al. bringing us "darker and edgier" fantasy...fantasy that purports to be "adult" and "mature" by drenching its worlds with rape, bloodshed, racism, misogyny, and by having everyone swear like wounded sailors. It's the exact same process that comic books suffered through in the nineties...if you know anything about that period in the comic industry, then you'll understand what I regard Geralt of Rivia as such an awful character.
Of course, this didn't make fantasy better, just trashier and uglier. Howard Chaykin once said "Comics in the '90s were profoundly shitty — they were dreadfully cynical exercises in whorish crap"...a condemnation I could easily apply to The Witcher or, to a lesser extent, Dragon Age.
The Baldur's Gate games represent a fantasy world from before then. They feature an almost Monty Python-esque brand of absurdist humour, very much different from Dragon Age, which has this awful, utterly insufferable Whedon-esque style of jocularity wherein everyone is smarmy, flippant, sarcastic and "snarky." It's a very "American" style of humour that does not appeal to me in the slightest (Neera from the Enhanced Edition is the walking embodiment of this brand of humour, which is the reason I never take her into my party). Dragon Age II was infinitely worse..."Funny" Hawke made me want to hammer a railroad spike into his skull, and if you were to remove every sarcastic one-liner from the game, you'd probably be left with a page worth of dialogue at the most, consisting mostly of exposition.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
I've not played any of the other games in the series, but to be fair, DA:O has a few moments where it isn't afraid to put its undies on its head and say "wibble"... I thought the inter-party dialogues were actually pretty funny.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
I've not played any of the other games in the series, but to be fair, DA:O has a few moments where it isn't afraid to put its undies on its head and say "wibble"... I thought the inter-party dialogues were actually pretty funny.
So in effort to make fantasy "grown-up" and to get out from under Tolkien's shadow, we have authors like GRRM, Joe Abercrombie, Richard Morgan, et. al. bringing us "darker and edgier" fantasy...fantasy that purports to be "adult" and "mature" by drenching its worlds with rape, bloodshed, racism, misogyny, and by having everyone swear like wounded sailors. It's the exact same process that comic books suffered through in the nineties...if you know anything about that period in the comic industry, then you'll understand what I regard Geralt of Rivia as such an awful character.
Of course, this didn't make fantasy better, just trashier and uglier. Howard Chaykin once said "Comics in the '90s were profoundly shitty — they were dreadfully cynical exercises in whorish crap"...a condemnation I could easily apply to The Witcher or, to a lesser extent, Dragon Age.
Right whole comics in the '90s were crap thing is something that I will fight tooth and claw, some of the most important comics ever written were written in the '90s. If you said superhero comics published by Marvel and DC, "Not DC Vertigo, mind you." in the '90s were crap, sure I could get behind that. Lets look at just some of the great works the '90s gave us.
Warren's Ellis's Transmetropolitan 1997.
Garth Ennis's Preacher 1995.
Neil Gaiman's Sandman, 1989 "Ok this started just before the '90's did, but it ran all the way to 1996, so I'm adding it."
Mike Mignola's Hellboy 1993.
Alan Moore's Lost Girls 1991.
As you can see some of the best damn comics ever written came out of the '90s, so shunning the entire decade is utterly ridiculous. There were even good superhero comics during the '90s, when Warren Ellis picked up Stormwatch in 1996 he turned it into quite a fascinating read. Also the Authority another masterpiece by Ellis dropped in 1999, though that is a bit late for this topic.
Also have to say Joe Abercrombie was a breath of fresh air to fantasy. Martin is great at world building, but terrible at making me give a damn about his characters. Haven't read any Richard Morgan, so I can't comment one way or the other. I will say writers like Steven Erikson, Glen Cook, Joe Abercrombie and GRRM have made fantasy better. Also have you tried any Andrzej Sapkowski?
The early 90s was a great time for mainstream superheroics too - the Superman line had a great depth of well written characters to draw on, Justice League had rediscovered itself as a title that could run with character led humor and great relationships, Valiant Comics was rediscovering the formula of telling a complete story each issue, while still telling a larger tale, Spiderman was still a light-hearted romp through the Marvel Universe with one of the best supporting casts in comics. What killed comics wasn't the dark angsty tales that appealed mostly to the teenage audience, but a blatant commercial desire to price the industry out of the reach of the audience. Every week it was gimmick covers and special editions, so you were guilted into buying a comic 5 times instead of once, with very little in return, and raised prices to pay for the gimmicks in the first place. Inter-title continuity and crossovers are a great things when done right, but when your crossover events drag in almost every title in your universe, the monthly budget is beyond a typical fan's budget, and their regular comics made little sense without the other titles - yet the big events were so thin on material that many issues became nothing but a protracted fight scene with little plot development for the duration of the crossover, and crossovers became more frequent.
Yes, this is also the era of the dark, angst-led antihero, as personified by Batman but magnified many times over in lesser titles. By the end it became almost impossible to have a simple hero who could inspire, everyone had to be flawed. There was almost a delight in corrupting the most virtuous of the heroes and comics, as if being the the one to take their innocence was clever and smart, rather than derivative and boring, removing what was becoming an increasingly rare trait from the various comic universes.
Alan Moore was still turning out some great work in the 90s, an unexpected delight was his work on Rob Liefeld's Supreme, of all things. The Japanese manga imports were finally hitting full stride, Maison Ikkoku was a particular favorite which was about as far from super heroics as I was likely to get. Looking back, the bulk of my comic enthusiasm is late 80s/early 90s, with a definite nod to the Lee/Kirby 60s Marvels that were always fun to pick up in 'reading' rather than 'collecting' grade. Over-commercialism aside, 90s were so much better than the 70s, and early 80s.
minsc is the best because of his "personality". He is like the midget and handicap giant in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. I think for someone who doesn't speak English as their primary language it would come off as silly to downright stupid.
Imagine watching Star Wars and taking out Chewbacca .....thats what playing BG1 and 2 is like for me without Minsc.
but as Minsc would say Minsc is the best because He is BUTT KICKING FOR GOODNESS! so. FEEL THE BURNING STARE OF MY HAMSTER AND CHANGE YOUR WAYS!!
On topic. He has so much character. He's unique, wonderful, original and beautiful. Plus he has a hamster. Anyone with a hamster has to be pretty damn awesome.
They don't really make fantasy worlds like Baldur's Gate any more. Nowadays, it's all DARK AND EDGY AND SERIOUS BUSINESS FOR SERIOUS MATURE ADULTS rubbish. You'd never see a character like Minsc in a "grown-up" fantasy setting like that of Dragon Age or...shudder... The Witcher, starring Geralt "If I grimace any harder I'll have an apoplexy" of Rivia.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
There were funny moments in the Witcher too. Dragon Age... hmm, don't remember.
Minsc is a quixotic character, but unlike the real Quijote, if he charged against windmills he'd destroy them. It is difficult to be so insane, cool and uplifting at the same time.
The Baldur's Gate games represent a fantasy world from before then. They feature an almost Monty Python-esque brand of absurdist humour, very much different from Dragon Age, which has this awful, utterly insufferable Whedon-esque style of jocularity wherein everyone is smarmy, flippant, sarcastic and "snarky." It's a very "American" style of humour that does not appeal to me in the slightest (Neera from the Enhanced Edition is the walking embodiment of this brand of humour, which is the reason I never take her into my party). Dragon Age II was infinitely worse..."Funny" Hawke made me want to hammer a railroad spike into his skull, and if you were to remove every sarcastic one-liner from the game, you'd probably be left with a page worth of dialogue at the most, consisting mostly of exposition.
I know I'm replying to a post that's nearly 2 months old but THANK YOU for articulating exactly what's been going on with WRPG writing that's vexed me since Dragon Age came out. I never could put it into words precise enough. This "Whedon-esque" kind of humor, as you say, irritates me too.
I'm going to screencap your post to refer back to because I know I won't remember it entirely.
Minsc, I loved because he was one of those character that were there from the beginning. I had a similar attachment to Garrus and Tali in the ME trilogy. My very first BG run he joined me.
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In BG2, he is certainly not the best, but that makes him even better in my opinion. Even though he's not the BEST, he's still useful in any combat role (BG1 or BG2), and he's great comic relief (BG2).
As far as BG1 is concerned, I can't even play BG1 without the BG1NPC project anymore. IMHO, the modders did an incredible job of capturing the character concepts of the NPCs that bioware portrayed in BG1 and BG2, especially and including Minsc.
That's why I have include Minsc in my party...because he brings levity and silliness to the setting, something modern fantasy is in desperate need of.
That said, comic relief can be hard to do. Minsc gets on a lot of people's nerves, as Jan does mine. It's easy to screw up and accidentally make a Jar Jar Binks.
EDIT: I should add that Jan annoys me because he's right inline with the semi-steampunkish Tinker Gnome trope introduced with Dragonlance, and used by everyone since.
Since picking up the Enhanced Editions though, I have actually played with him for the first time. Maybe I've mellowed in the intervening decade, or maybe I've just been exposed to more annoying characters since, but I have genuinely enjoyed his contributions. Of course, it is also possible that having played out all the other NPCs years ago, his remained fresh for me to discover But I was genuinely entertained, which was not the case a decade ago, and the only one who might have changed is me...
Morrigan's lack of understanding anything involving people or society, while being well versed in so much magical lore and history, made me giggle on a few occasions.
Alister is a pretty funny guy, if you can get behind overly corny jokes.
Shale's supercilious nature coupled with her disdain for all squishy flesh creatures, especially pigeons.
Merril's whimsical naivete.
Varrick and his razor sharp wit.
Iron Bull's interparty dialogues with pretty much anybody besides Solas are really funny.
Sera, just Sera.
On the topic of the Witcher, yes the world is dark and Geralt is a emotionless mutant as a side effect of the mutagens he took to become a Witcher, but the world is filled with humorous things, more so in the W3 wild hunt than any of the previous games. Geralt throws out some seriously cringe worthy lines from time to time and sometimes attempts to tell jokes, his lake of emotion making them all the more funny. Here are some funny things in the Witcher 3,
spoilers ahead.
First time you go down to the Bloody Baron's basement (normally while doing the Family Matters quest), you pass a couple guards who are talking to each other...
Guard One: Bring out the gimp.
Guard Two: The gimp's sleepin'.
Guard One: Well, wake him up.
Trolololo is a troll you meet and do quests for.
While exploring some Elven Ruins, Geralt stumbles across a skeleton, examines it, laughs and says "Tomb Raider".
Drunk soldiers:
"To puke or not to puke, that is the
...(question)"
Three farty rock trolls, "stomach problems from eating bad nekker" named Jessie, Dodger and Joe.
Silver Pantaloons, random reference to BG.
In Novigrod I heard a poor beggar complaining of his livelihood being taken away when someone cured his leprosy
When fighting bandits, one of them said "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries."
A letter about a witcher of the cat school called Schrödinger who "might be alive, might be dead."
So Witcher humor is largely based on pop culture reference and is generally more of a easter egg sort of thing, but is most definitely there. Also since the Witcher doesn't have a real companion system so it's a lot harder to throw out random humorous conversation, it's there but you have to go and find it. Sometimes Dandelion can be funny and Zoltan is always good for a laugh.
Oh yeah Dijkstra's sarcastic natural and love of the theater were amazing, everything that came out of his mouth was gold.
So even if fantasy is dark and edgy, there will always be comedy in it somewhere, if the writers are any good.
I think Dog is one of my favorite characters in DA:O for the same reason that Minsc is one of my favorite characters in BG - the aforementioned comic relief.
So in effort to make fantasy "grown-up" and to get out from under Tolkien's shadow, we have authors like GRRM, Joe Abercrombie, Richard Morgan, et. al. bringing us "darker and edgier" fantasy...fantasy that purports to be "adult" and "mature" by drenching its worlds with rape, bloodshed, racism, misogyny, and by having everyone swear like wounded sailors. It's the exact same process that comic books suffered through in the nineties...if you know anything about that period in the comic industry, then you'll understand what I regard Geralt of Rivia as such an awful character.
Of course, this didn't make fantasy better, just trashier and uglier. Howard Chaykin once said "Comics in the '90s were profoundly shitty — they were dreadfully cynical exercises in whorish crap"...a condemnation I could easily apply to The Witcher or, to a lesser extent, Dragon Age.
The Baldur's Gate games represent a fantasy world from before then. They feature an almost Monty Python-esque brand of absurdist humour, very much different from Dragon Age, which has this awful, utterly insufferable Whedon-esque style of jocularity wherein everyone is smarmy, flippant, sarcastic and "snarky." It's a very "American" style of humour that does not appeal to me in the slightest (Neera from the Enhanced Edition is the walking embodiment of this brand of humour, which is the reason I never take her into my party). Dragon Age II was infinitely worse..."Funny" Hawke made me want to hammer a railroad spike into his skull, and if you were to remove every sarcastic one-liner from the game, you'd probably be left with a page worth of dialogue at the most, consisting mostly of exposition.
Well I think that's definitive proof that I've been getting it wrong for quite some time
Must be why they never sent you home!
Warren's Ellis's Transmetropolitan 1997.
Garth Ennis's Preacher 1995.
Neil Gaiman's Sandman, 1989 "Ok this started just before the '90's did, but it ran all the way to 1996, so I'm adding it."
Mike Mignola's Hellboy 1993.
Alan Moore's Lost Girls 1991.
As you can see some of the best damn comics ever written came out of the '90s, so shunning the entire decade is utterly ridiculous. There were even good superhero comics during the '90s, when Warren Ellis picked up Stormwatch in 1996 he turned it into quite a fascinating read. Also the Authority another masterpiece by Ellis dropped in 1999, though that is a bit late for this topic.
Also have to say Joe Abercrombie was a breath of fresh air to fantasy. Martin is great at world building, but terrible at making me give a damn about his characters. Haven't read any Richard Morgan, so I can't comment one way or the other. I will say writers like Steven Erikson, Glen Cook, Joe Abercrombie and GRRM have made fantasy better.
Also have you tried any Andrzej Sapkowski?
Yes, this is also the era of the dark, angst-led antihero, as personified by Batman but magnified many times over in lesser titles. By the end it became almost impossible to have a simple hero who could inspire, everyone had to be flawed. There was almost a delight in corrupting the most virtuous of the heroes and comics, as if being the the one to take their innocence was clever and smart, rather than derivative and boring, removing what was becoming an increasingly rare trait from the various comic universes.
Alan Moore was still turning out some great work in the 90s, an unexpected delight was his work on Rob Liefeld's Supreme, of all things. The Japanese manga imports were finally hitting full stride, Maison Ikkoku was a particular favorite which was about as far from super heroics as I was likely to get. Looking back, the bulk of my comic enthusiasm is late 80s/early 90s, with a definite nod to the Lee/Kirby 60s Marvels that were always fun to pick up in 'reading' rather than 'collecting' grade. Over-commercialism aside, 90s were so much better than the 70s, and early 80s.
Imagine watching Star Wars and taking out Chewbacca .....thats what playing BG1 and 2 is like for me without Minsc.
but as Minsc would say Minsc is the best because He is BUTT KICKING FOR GOODNESS!
so.
FEEL THE BURNING STARE OF MY HAMSTER AND CHANGE YOUR WAYS!!
On topic. He has so much character. He's unique, wonderful, original and beautiful. Plus he has a hamster. Anyone with a hamster has to be pretty damn awesome.
what is @wubble doing here?
I'm going to screencap your post to refer back to because I know I won't remember it entirely.