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CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
edited May 2016 in General Modding
Introducing The Tweaks Anthology, Beta 1 2 3 4

edit: Now at beta 4

This mod originally started when a couple of friends--myself and Idobek--decided to combine their small tweak packs into a single mod, christened the G3 Tweak Pack and hosted at the (then brand-new) Gibberlings Three modding community. As Baldur's Gate Tutu gained in popularity, the G3 Tweak Pack was spun off into the Tutu Tweak Pack. As modding tools became more advanced and as conversion projects began to overlap the G3 and Tutu Tweak Packs were recombined and, with the permission of Wes Weimer, included the Ease-of-Use mod. This effort resulted in the BG2 Tweak Pack. Once again, demand caused several spin off mods--Andyr spun off the IWD and PsT Tweak Packs; the bigg created the IWD2 Tweak Pack; grogerson made the BG1 Tweak Pack; and DavidW integrated several tweaks into the IWD-in-BG2 combo fixpack/tweak pack. Once again, technology has caught up, and all of these individual projects are once again being discontinued individually and combined--hopefully for good this time--into a monolithic mod, the Tweaks Anthology.

In short, the Tweaks Anthology should run on any Infinity Engine game, from the original Planescape: Torment through the impending Siege of Dragonspear expansion for Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition. In the nearly 18 months since the release of BG2 Tweaks v16, I've been grabbing bits of time here and there to work on this, and I think we're now at a place where you can install the mod without your computer catching fire. In other words, it's time for beta testing.

I'll try to delineate my points of concerns on a per-platform basis in the next few posts; for now here are the relevant bits you want:

Download Beta 4: Windows | OS X | Linux
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Beta 4 Changelog
  • Make Magic Shields Glow had two bugs preventing its installation; it would halt on games without an extended color palette (e.g. non-EE games or without 1pp) and would halt on shields without any colors set, such as IWD's Lyre of Progression
  • Unique Containers was supposed to be available for BGEE, but was omitted from the allowed platforms list for the component
  • The werewolf paws in Shapeshifter Rebalancing now get named explicitly
  • Move NPCs from Baldur's Gate will now be skipped if the SCS version of same is installed. The component will also skip NPCs already moved by similar somponents in the BG1 NPC Project, or skip the component altogether if all three have been moved already.
  • Change Experience Point Cap should now work on Siege of Dragonspear
  • Included workarounds for incomplete 25stweap.2da in Siege of Dragonspear and IWDEE for the various components that touch kits (Enforce PnP Proficiency Rules on Dual-Classed Characters and Expanded Dual-Class Options), though the next patches should take care of this. In general, the component should be more forgiving for incomplete files.
  • Remove Racial Restrictions for Single Classes and Remove Racial Restrictions for Kits will no longer allow non-human monks. Other races do not have monk animations so the engine tends to crash during character generation. Support for shamans has been added to both.
  • If Druids Use 3e Alignment Restrictions was installed after Shapeshifter Rebalancing, which is the likely install order, non-true neutral shapeshifter druids would not be able to use their symbolic paws.
  • On a suggestion from Sam., the component Stores Purchase All Item Types has been added.
  • Minimum Stats Cheat now lets you specify minimums for the six attributes individually.
  • Friendly Random Drops needed a few more fixes
    • The 'Token Genie' was undead, meaning a cleric could turn or even chunk him.
    • Items with charges should now be handled in a more robust fashion
  • The library for fixing kit.ids as part of should now be up to date for Expanded Dual-Class Options
  • The BG and IWD variants of Alter Weapon Proficiency System should now account for racial bonuses in the EE games
  • Sensible Entrance Points only modifies the Beregost entrance point for BG content on BGT games, as BGT already defines good entrances for the other areas.
  • Updated Italian translation, thanks improb@bile!
Beta 3 changelog
  • Miloch's Unique Containers mod has been added to Tweaks as a cosmetic component, including all of its original options and translations. If Add Bags of Holding is installed after it, the new bags will use the unique icons.
  • Added Use Character Colors Instead of Item Colors component
  • Added components Everyone Gets Bonus APR from Specialization (subtledoctor) and Enforce PnP Proficiency Rules on Dual-Classed Characters (subtledoctor) courtesy of subtledoctor
  • Make Magic Shields Glow will now try to read in an appropriate glow color from the palette bitmap instead of a (limited) lookup table
  • Fixed a bug with Higher HP on Level Up > NWN-Style; withdrew the Low Variance Rolls option due to the same bug
  • Fixed a math error in Change Experience Point Cap > Remove Completely that caused bards and thieves to need an extra 100,000 XP to advance from level 39 to 40
  • Fixed a bug with Send BioWare NPCs to an Inn where it wouldn't install on vanilla Baldur's Gate due to bad tra references (thanks Angel)
  • Friendly Random Drops was failing to account for two random drops in IWDEE that are different compared to IWD+UB; the fix in beta 2 caused it to not install on vanilla IWD, which is in turn fixed (thanks to Angel again)
  • The Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Armor (Galactygon) component is being withdrawn, as One Pixel Productions has a superior solution
Beta 2 changelog
  • Fixed bug with Commoners Use Drab Colors where commoners ended up lookng like they were made of chocolate instead
  • Unique Icons was expanded to BG2 games; also fixed a bug where it was not updating helmet animations
  • After discussion, Rest Anywhere was expanded into mltiple components. The main component continues to work as the original, and Disable Non-Hostile Rest Spawns and Alter Hostile Rest Spawns have been added to give players a finer grain of control.
  • Friendly Random Drops could pull from the wrong table in IWDEE.
  • Fixed a bug with Friendly Random Drops > Choose Your Drop where it was not accounting for Orrick's reward after you bring him the Mythal book. Also fixed the bug that would cause the Kuldahar merchant to leave after the orog attack, for real this time.
  • All BAMs in the mod converted to uncompressed for better cross-platform goodness.
  • Fixed a couple of bugs where Faster Chapter 1&2 Cut-Scenes & Dreams was not quite matching and replacing verything it should and Gaelan's dialogue lacked the shortcuts it was supposed to have
  • Faster Chapter 1&2 Cut-Scenes & Dreams will skip adjusting the Irenicus-Cowled Wizard cutscene in the Promenade if the player has installed Extended Waukeen's Promenade Cutscene from Almateria's Restoration Project. Other cutscenes and dreams are still affected in this case.
  • Fixed bug with Increase Potion Stacking where it handled items with multiple charges incorrectly; thanks argent77!
  • OS X version now up to date with WeiDU v239, as the Windows version; thanks argent77 again!
Beta 1 changelog (compared to BG2 Tweaks v16):
  • New components:
    • New - Baldur's Gate Casting Graphics, Max HP at Level One, Recoverable ammunition (argent77), Recoverable throwing weapons (argent77)
    • From BG1 Tweaks - Make Magic Shields Glow (plainab/grogerson), Send BioWare NPCs to an Inn (DavidW/Zed Nocear), Portable Containers (Zed Nocear), Friendly Arm Inn Hidden Container Restoration (plainab), Move NPCs from Baldur's Gate, Bardic Reputation Adjustment, Change Cloakwood Mine Chapter End Change Trigger to Non-TotSC Behavior, Paladins Use IWD-HoW Spell Progression Tables (grogerson), Rangers Use IWD-HoW Spell Progression Tables (grogerson), Druids Use 3e Alignment Restrictions, Loosen Item Restrictions for Multi- and Dual-class Clerics, Loosen Item Restrictions for Multi- and Dual-class Druids, Taerom Makes Additional Ankheg Armors (Icendoan/grogerson), Give Coran A Legal Dexterity Score of 19, and Make Xan a Generalist Mage (Mike1072)
    • From IWD-in-BG2 Fixpack/Tweaks - Game ends when the main character dies; NPCs respond to the main character, not to whichever character talks to them; Make Heart of Winter accessible at any level; and Restore BG2 spells and make scrolls available, and Never lose access to Orrick the Grey's trade goods
    • From IWD Tweaks - Friendly Random Drops, Restore IWD Loading Screens (icelus), and Unique Icons
  • Fixed an original game bug with Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues that would affect Edwin's wounded dialogue
  • Fixed a bug with Gradual Drow Item Disintegration; items should have a chance to break upon use
  • Improved Improved Multi-Player Kick-out Dialogues further with input from BG1 Tweaks; NPCs in BG now have more places to go when kicked out
  • Gems and Potions Require Identification now uses different scales for determining lore for gems vs. potions; also capped max lore to identify at 100
  • Fixed multiple bugs with Multiple Strongholds. In the No Restrictions variant, it would fail to account for the shifted clerical stronghold alignments in BG2EE. Notably, this meant no one would spawn after Gaal's speech in the Temple district. Also fixed a bug where the druid restriction was still in place, preventing the messenger who would summon you back to the Grove. Also fixed a bug where both variants could bypass the bard stronghold XP reward from Raelis for rescuing the troupe from the Planar Prison.
  • Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash, Weimer) now places a little more nicely with other mods.
  • Streamlined and combined code from Two-Handed Bastard Swords, Two-Handed Katanas, and Two-Handed Axes. Also fixed weapon breakage issues for BGT games.
  • Change Experience Point Cap > Remove Completely should now tackle rules tables in a more robust fashion
  • The armor lookup table used by Allow Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor per P&P, Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor, and Icon Improvements has been expanded with new items and now allows for individual armor values instead of trying to broadly categorize items.
  • kit.ids is now properly patched as part of Expanded Dual-Class Options
  • Fixed a fairly large and glaring oversight with Wear Multiple Protection Items > P&P Restrictions where the items with AC bonuses could still be worn together
  • Alter Weapon Proficiency System underwent a significant revamp. Most notably, DavidW's IWD options from IWD-in-BG2 are now available, and the BG system was improved with some of the techniques from the IWD system.
  • True Grandmastery is now one option in Change Grandmastery Bonuses instead of a standalone component, as a BG2 option has been added.
  • Added two new options to Higher HP on Level Up: Average and Low Variance Rolls. Also adjusted NWN-style to be a little more accurate.
  • Expanded and renamed Increase Ammo Stack Size, Increase Jewelry and Gem Stacks, Increase Potion Stacking, and Increase Scroll Stacking to include four options: 40, 80, 120, and unlimited (999). Increase Jewelry and Gem Stacks also covers furs, pelts, and other miscellany like bandit scalps
  • Expanded Rest Anywhere to include options for disabling rest spawns.
  • Fixed a bug when adding Friendly Random Drops > Wandering Merchant that would cause the Kuldahar merchant to leave after the orog attack
  • Added more NPCs to the Improved Fate Spirit Summoning component
  • ToB-Style NPCs should now have a more robust method of finding joinable NPCs and their creature files
  • Consistent Stats: Viconia should now better adjust her spellbook to account for the gain or loss of bonus spells due to the change in wisdom
  • Fixed similar issues with Make Khalid a Fighter-Mage (Domi) and Make Montaron an Assassin (Andyr); now it checks for walking speeds on non-Tutu games, better adjusts proficiencies for the alternative schemes, and now work if installed after ToB-Style NPCs
  • Faster Chapter 1&2 Cut-Scenes & Dreams (Karzak, Blucher, aVENGER, Weimer) no longer overwrites scripts, which was causing a compatibility issue with BGT
  • Added compatibility for EET
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  • argent77argent77 Member Posts: 3,478
    The component "Increased Potion Stacking" doesn't handle items with multiple charges correctly. You can test it with "Charname's Tankard" (OHNTANK.ITM) in BG2:EE. With this component installed you can split each charge into a separate tankard which are all recharged after a rest. Rinse and repeat to produce an endless amount of tankards.

    I commited a fix for this issue to the BiG World Fixpack some time ago.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    How will the already started games react to these changes? For example, will the mod work on my already started IWDEE run, if I install Game ends when the main character dies, Friendly Random Drops (merchant), Weapon Proficiency System (IWD-Style).

    Will the proficiencies on my party members be changed to the new style? Or will I have to change them manually (and the mod will affect only further level ups)? If so, how?

    Will the merchant appear and will he take items that were already found before?

    Will the game remember, if the main character died?

    Additional question: The EE-Keeper doesn't support non-EE proficiency system, does it, @Troodon80 ?
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    edited March 2016
    Thanks @argent77.
    bengoshi said:

    Will the proficiencies on my party members be changed to the new style? Or will I have to change them manually (and the mod will affect only further level ups)? If so, how?

    The component does not edit save games, so you would be presented with the new setup on the next level up and keep your old (and now probably useless) pips. You could edit the old ones with EE Keeper or NI, but it's an extra hassle.
    bengoshi said:

    Will the merchant appear and will he take items that were already found before?

    This should work on a game in progress, yes. And he will swap any random drop at any time, but will only do so once for each drop.
    bengoshi said:

    Will the game remember, if the main character died?

    IWDEE does this based on area flags, so if you've already visited an area it will behave like normal IWDEE and the tweak will only affect areas you haven't been yet.
    bengoshi said:

    Additional question: The EE-Keeper doesn't support non-EE proficiency system, does it, @Troodon80 ?

    I guess this depends on whether or not EE Keeper uses a static list of names/slots or if it reads weapprof.2da and/or stats.ids dynamically. Even if it does use a static list, you could still make adjustments --it just makes it harder since the names in EE Keeper wouldn't match what they are in the game.

    edit: fixed quotes
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    Thanks a lot!

    Another question: how will it behave if I use old (BG1, pre-BG2) proficiency system for BGEE thanks to this mod, and then I start BG2EE with an imported character and I want to use the new (the BG2) proficiency system?
    CamDawg said:



    bengoshi said:

    Will the proficiencies on my party members be changed to the new style? Or will I have to change them manually (and the mod will affect only further level ups)? If so, how?

    The component does not edit save games, so you would be presented with the new setup on the next level up and keep your old (and now probably useless) pips. You could edit the old ones with EE Keeper or NI, but it's an extra hassle.
    So, have I understood it right that my proficiencies in bastard swords won't count into new proficiencies of greater swords unless I change it manually?
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    bengoshi said:

    Another question: how will it behave if I use old (BG1, pre-BG2) proficiency system for BGEE thanks to this mod, and then I start BG2EE with an imported character and I want to use the new (the BG2) proficiency system?

    Those BG-style profs will just map to the same slots in BG2EE, which will have different meanings, so it's back to manual editing I'm afraid. As far as BG2EE (or for that matter, BG2) is concerned, it's importing a character with modern proficiencies so it sees no reason to give you the opportunity to pick new profs, like it would for an older (BG) character or save file.
    bengoshi said:

    So, have I understood it right that my proficiencies in bastard swords won't count into new proficiencies of greater swords unless I change it manually?

    That's correct. It does update this for creature files--so, say, Minsc and other joinables get updated, but only if they've not been in the party yet. Once someone's in your party they become part of the save game, which the component doesn't mess with.

  • argent77argent77 Member Posts: 3,478
    The component "Commoners Use Drab Colors" is still producing chocolate-colored commoners in the Enhanced Editions (see screenshot).
    [spoiler=Screenshot]image[/spoiler]

    Another issue I've noticed is that Gaelan Bayle doesn't initiate a conversation the first time you enter the Slums. He also doesn't provide any of the shortcut options from the "Faster Chapter 1&2 Cut-Scenes & Dreams" component anymore.

    Some of the involved cutscenes also contain a mix of full and faster cutscene content. For example, the sequence of the Cowled Wizards in Spellhold talking about practicing their enchantment spells on Imoen is fully shown while the Irenicus part of disintegrating the wizards is from the tweaks component which results in one of the Cowled Wizards not being destroyed. The first cutscene in Athkatla's Council of Six Building is also somewhat off, although it's not as noticeable.
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    The price of Faster Cutscenes no longer nuking, well, everything is that the patching is a bit fragile. It worked on my (base) BGT, BG2, and BG2EE games, but I didn't fully expect it to survive in the wild.

    Could you grab baf sources for the pre-Tweaks files (cut01, cut01a-g, movie2b, movie3b-c, newgame and cut01bgt if it's BGT) in your game and email them to me? The Gaelan part is easy at least--I accidentally deleted the COMPILE of gaelan.d, and shouldn't be making changes to ar0400. That was originally from EoU and wasn't working before; guess it should have remained that way.
  • brusbrus Member Posts: 944
    edited March 2016
    @CamDawg , @argent77 is it possible to implement some UI Setup screen so,for example, you could easily checkmark the desired tweak option? Maybe something similar in Java as NI with tree structure.
  • argent77argent77 Member Posts: 3,478
    brus said:

    is it possible to implement some UI Setup screen so,for example, you could easily checkmark the desired tweak option? Maybe something similar in Java as NI with tree structure.

    Not with WeiDU alone. WeiDU code can only control how to read or modify game data. At the most it can be used to present a slightly cleaner text output in the console window. If you're on Windows you can use the Big World Setup (BWS) instead. It takes care of many installation aspects and provides a nice graphical interface, including a tree-like selection list for mod components.
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    @bengoshi,
    bengoshi said:

    Additional question: The EE-Keeper doesn't support non-EE proficiency system, does it, @Troodon80 ?

    EE Keeper should work fine, though I'll admit I haven't tested it on the original non-Enhanced Edition games in a while. The only thing I'd imagine not working is the new code to determine bonuses and thief skills. Weapon proficiencies should work the way they always have.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    Thanks, @Troodon80 and @CamDawg .

    So, basically, it means that for the existing game, I have to first install the components, then go to the EEKepper and change proficiencies to the pre-EE ones, then run the game, wait for the level up and continue to develop proficiencies with the rules from the mod.

    Also, if I used the modded proficiencies in BGEE and then imported the character to BG2EE, which doesn't have this mod component, I have to change them in the EE-Keeper to the system the Enhanced Edidions use.

    Right?

    Also, I'm curious, didn't we always get Max HP at Level One in BG1&2EE and IWDEE as a default? Is there any way to randomise it?
  • BelgarathMTHBelgarathMTH Member Posts: 5,653
    edited March 2016
    I can confirm that EE Keeper responds to the "Use BG1 weapon proficiencies with weapon styles" component of the old Tweaks, since I use BG1 weapon proficiencies all the the time. I can't say anything about the beta, though.

    EDIT: I just confirmed again that it works, by switching my current IWD saved run, and another older save, over to BG1 weapon proficiencies. You have to be careful with your file management and double check everything carefully, though, because it's very easy to make errors while moving all those pips around in Keeper. It's all perfectly doable, though. Sorry I can't test it with the beta, but it should work the same, shouldn't it?
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  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    argent77 said:

    brus said:

    is it possible to implement some UI Setup screen so,for example, you could easily checkmark the desired tweak option? Maybe something similar in Java as NI with tree structure.

    Not with WeiDU alone. WeiDU code can only control how to read or modify game data. At the most it can be used to present a slightly cleaner text output in the console window. If you're on Windows you can use the Big World Setup (BWS) instead. It takes care of many installation aspects and provides a nice graphical interface, including a tree-like selection list for mod components.
    ^ ^ This. There have been various efforts to try and make a pretty front end for WeiDU mods (including from Wes himself), but every project has come and gone without completion. BWS is probably the closest we're ever going to get, but I don't think you're going to find Anthology in it quiiiiiite yet.
  • GrammarsaladGrammarsalad Member Posts: 2,582
    Would it be appropriate to make a couple of requests?

    I would love to see more frequent monster spawns in 'dangerous' areas while resting as per @jobby 's request above.

    I would also love it if summoned creatures could set off traps. In any case, glad to see an update. I'll put it through the ringer when I get a chance
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    Grammarsalad said:

    Would it be appropriate to make a couple of requests?

    Of course--Tweaks lives off of requests!
    Grammarsalad said:

    I would love to see more frequent monster spawns in 'dangerous' areas while resting as per @jobby 's request above.

    I've already got the code to find hostile rest spawns, so this should be pretty easy. The question here is probably how much, and how it should be organized. I think ultimately SCS might be a more natural home for something like this though.
    Grammarsalad said:

    I would also love it if summoned creatures could set off traps. In any case, glad to see an update. I'll put it through the ringer when I get a chance

    The Ding0 did this in his tweak pack; looking at the code I think the component should work just fine on EE games.
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    A suggestion - can you incorporate the Holy Symbol component from the Fixpack? It's much more of a tweak than a "fix" per se...
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    Notes to self--forgot to include animation updates for Unique Icons' helmets; Faster Cutscenes + Almateria's Extended Waukeen's Promenade Cutscene = neither.
  • HudzyHudzy Member Posts: 300
    I can't check for myself just yet, but did you / would you consider including an "all drops" option in the friendly random drops component for loot hoarders like me?
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  • jobbyjobby Member Posts: 181
    edited March 2016
    I think that sounds sensible, 84% of rest interruption would pretty much make resting in a hostile area an act of desperation.

    Thanks for pulling these together i can't wait to play it :D

    I also think @elminster has been looking into something like this for his "Eve of war" mod for BG1 though it may just be for the type and number of monsters spawned, not likelihood to spawn, either that or disabling resting completely in some areas, he mentions it in the "Rough World" component.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited March 2016
    jobby said:



    I also think @elminster has been looking into something like this for his "Eve of war" mod for BG1 though it may just be for the type and number of monsters spawned, not likelihood to spawn, either that or disabling resting completely in some areas, he mentions it in the "Rough World" component.

    It basically just puts more monsters (and a greater variety of monsters - including importing some that don't appear otherwise in BGEE) on maps that follow the critical path in BGEE (the degree of this is influenced by your difficulty level). So its not using the spawn points (within the area files) but is rather created using the area's scripts.

    That aspect of the mod also affects the chance to rest in some of these areas (by adding to the area script) which is also influenced by difficulty level.
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    OK, I've got the chocolate commoners from Drab Colors sorted; Faster Cutscenes will skip the Promenade cutscene between Jon and the CWs if you've installed Almateria's extended version of same; rest spawns have been broken into the separate components above; Unique Icons fixes helmet animations again.
    shawne said:

    A suggestion - can you incorporate the Holy Symbol component from the Fixpack? It's much more of a tweak than a "fix" per se...

    Fixpack just needs an update. While the core stuff shouldn't be installed on BG2EE, some of the OBC stuff (like this) should still apply.
    Hudzy said:

    I can't check for myself just yet, but did you / would you consider including an "all drops" option in the friendly random drops component for loot hoarders like me?

    While Tweaks does have its fair share of cheating components, this one might be too much even for it.

    Let me find some time to test these a bit and then I'll probably call this Beta 2.

  • GrammarsaladGrammarsalad Member Posts: 2,582
    edited March 2016
    I haven't had a chance to install this yet. I'm spending all of my free time modding (which is oddly more fun IMO!) But does this version include the 'optional, but cool'features of the fix pack?

    Edit: it looks like this was partially answered above
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  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    Could an opposite component of "Game ends when the main character dies" be added to BG1 and BG2? So that BG could become IWD-style in terms of game over?
  • CamDawgCamDawg Member, Developer Posts: 3,438
    bengoshi said:

    Could an opposite component of "Game ends when the main character dies" be added to BG1 and BG2? So that BG could become IWD-style in terms of game over?

    The big problem is that so much of BG/BG2 scripting works under the assumption that Player1 is alive. Cutscenes are mostly driven by Player1 so you'll get cutscene hangs if he/she is dead, dialogues terminating prematurely, etc. While this can be worked around, there's not really a way to automate the process.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    As an optional alternative, could you set it so that Player1 gets knocked unconscious instead of dying if there's at least one other character alive? Then have them get back up with 1 hp after a round or two. (If all the other characters are dead, game-over as normal)

    It wouldn't give the IWD behavior, but it might be enough to make Player1 not feel quite so essential during combat.
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