Which version of the text editor would you prefer for the forums?
Dee
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In the last day or two we've been testing out some alternative formatting settings for the forums. Previously, the forums have used HTML for all posts, with spoiler buttons being handled with BBCode.
We have the option to make everything use BBCode, which would make the formatting options more intuitive for the majority of users, but might take away some of the more advanced HTML styling that advanced users might like playing with.
We also have the option (which is in use now) to use a WYSIWYG editor, which includes the option to view and edit the raw HTML of your post. But the HTML view for the WYSIWYG editor is raw HTML, not the lightly formatted HTML we have in the HTML format.
All three of these options support keyboard shortcuts for Bold, Italic, and Underline. The question is, which do you prefer?
This is an all-or-nothing proposition. Vanilla doesn't currently give us the choice to switch on a post-to-post basis (although any existing posts will continue to use the format they were created in). So take some time to play with the WYSIWYG editor, and think about which of the following three options you'd most prefer. I'll let this simmer for about a week, and then we'll make a decision based on the voting results and the discussions that follow.
We have the option to make everything use BBCode, which would make the formatting options more intuitive for the majority of users, but might take away some of the more advanced HTML styling that advanced users might like playing with.
We also have the option (which is in use now) to use a WYSIWYG editor, which includes the option to view and edit the raw HTML of your post. But the HTML view for the WYSIWYG editor is raw HTML, not the lightly formatted HTML we have in the HTML format.
All three of these options support keyboard shortcuts for Bold, Italic, and Underline. The question is, which do you prefer?
This is an all-or-nothing proposition. Vanilla doesn't currently give us the choice to switch on a post-to-post basis (although any existing posts will continue to use the format they were created in). So take some time to play with the WYSIWYG editor, and think about which of the following three options you'd most prefer. I'll let this simmer for about a week, and then we'll make a decision based on the voting results and the discussions that follow.
- Which version of the text editor would you prefer for the forums?33 votes
- BBCode51.52%
- HTML27.27%
- WYSIWYG (with HTML view)21.21%
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I've liked the previous system a lot, I've got used to it. It provided everything I ever wished for. We had a very useful "how to do" thread, and by following instructions could easily type what we wanted and in the way we wanted it.
Quoting, editing, adding spoilers, inserting pictures - it all was very much easier before the change.
Even with the HTML toggle, it can't be a substitute to the previous system, because this toggle only works for the post you write, not for looking at other posts.
Why I prefer BBCODE: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/724395/#Comment_724395
Why I hate WYSIWYG Editor's 1: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/724432/#Comment_724432
Why I hate WYSIWYG Editor's 2: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/724453/#Comment_724453
I'm also not a fan of the quote indentation but I believe that can be fixed by removing some of the syntax (The <div> stuff).
I've tested the BBCode version you had online for a short while a day a go in this post, but it didn't support everything I saw in the NBBC plugin code.
That's what I get for voting too early in the morning.
Choose only one answer who is the most annoying guy in BG:
Whatever you choose, please keep the ban on .bmp's.
The HTML option that comes with the WYSIWYG setting is full on HTML. Rather than only using some HTML tags for links, pictures, etc..., and being able to just type normally for the rest, you now need to include divs and brs for the most basics of stuff. Want to start a new paragraph? Think you can get away with pressing Enter once or twice? Too bad, use <br><br> instead!
I voted BBcode, but I honestly wouldn't mind at all if it went back to the way it was. Both allow some formatting here and there, without having to tag everything.
Note the difference in order between the pictures I dropped in here and the alphabetical order below. Not only that, but this is the second time I dropped those pics, and the order was different the first time (the one with the cat was third.)
Test #4 ->
Test #2 ->
Test #3 ->
I would say it's a bug of sorts.
Yes, that's a bug. But why are you trying to mass-upload images in the first place?
The bar on top is very much self explanatory and makes placing links and pictures in a post easier. A person just has to go through a meme thread to realize how complicated inserting images is for someone not knowing how to use the upload feature properly.
Yes there are wonderful posts that explain how to do certain functions when editing a post, but they aren't needed when all the basics are right above text window.
Thanks for bearing with me, everyone. I realize the changing formatting can be frustrating, but it's all in the interest of improving things for us all.
New Poll: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/49139/html-or-bbcode-which-should-we-use