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Icewind Dale looks awful compared to the new BG

I went back a little while ago and tried playing IWDEE, and boy is it ugly. Even unscaled it looks bad. That new feature in BG that outlines the characters really helps a ton. It would be great if IWDEE got the same treatment but I know it can't be - it would be way too much work. But maybe if they released an expansion to IWDEE they could end up giving it the BG treatment as well.
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  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    I thought the conventional wisdom was that IWDEE will be updated to 2.0 in the relatively near future. It's probably not all that much work once they get the kinks ironed out in the BG games.
  • SirBatinceSirBatince Member Posts: 882
    Well of course. You're used to 2.0's anti aliasing filter.

    play the "ugliness" for a while and you'll find 2.0 weird then.
    EggHuevo
  • CutlassJackCutlassJack Member Posts: 493
    I've been wanting to replay it but I'm holding off til it gets a 2.0 makeover. Even the change that lets you equip a mix of dual and two handed weapon types alone would make it so much better. I got spoiled by weapon sets in IWD2, which makes it hard to play the first one.
    StormvesselBelgarathMTH
  • BelleSorciereBelleSorciere Member Posts: 2,108

    I've been wanting to replay it but I'm holding off til it gets a 2.0 makeover. Even the change that lets you equip a mix of dual and two handed weapon types alone would make it so much better. I got spoiled by weapon sets in IWD2, which makes it hard to play the first one.

    Same. I was into a playthrough but I'm holding off until 2.0 comes out.
    StormvesselBelgarathMTH
  • gugulug5000gugulug5000 Member Posts: 248
    I think they confirmed this was happening in one of their streams. Hopefully it doesn't take too long.
    StormvesselBelgarathMTH
  • StormvesselStormvessel Member Posts: 654
    Oh, wow. Thank you guys. I now have hope. If IWDEE gets the 2.0 treatment, it would be so great. Imagine a Shaman in IWDEE! It's such a good fit.
    BelgarathMTHmashedtatersQuartz
  • tortuosittortuosit Member Posts: 63
    Very much waiting to play IWD again and for 2.0 to hit IWD.
    StormvesselBelgarathMTH
  • PteranPteran Member Posts: 388
    @Stormvessel I've yet to change over to 2.0, so I'm not aware of the graphical changes. Do you have any comparison screenshots?
  • StormvesselStormvessel Member Posts: 654
    Pteran said:

    @Stormvessel I've yet to change over to 2.0, so I'm not aware of the graphical changes. Do you have any comparison screenshots?

    Um, hold on...
  • Wraith_SarevokWraith_Sarevok Member Posts: 130
    edited April 2016
    I HATE that. It's the same stupid crap they put in Super Smash Bros 3DS where you can turn on thick outlines around your character. Turned it off within the first 5 seconds of playing. Why does ANYONE like that? It's so distracting and it constantly takes my eyes out of the game. IWDEE looks so much better to me. You can appreciate that they're sprites. Pixels are awesome.
    dok0zhivagoFenghoang
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,714
    edited April 2016
    I'm happy they've made sprite outlines optional in the 2.0. To me, BG (and IWD) will always look in pixels, I'm loving it, I just can't change my feelings about it.

    Maybe the reason of @Stormvessel 's view is that he came to IE games after more modern games, like Skyrim (I remember you saying so). To many of those BG players from the past, new sprite outlines are not welcome. And when you think I also like games like Might and Magic VI, VII and VIII, you get the picture.

    So I just turn them off and the problem is solved.
  • dunbardunbar Member Posts: 1,603

    Obviously I can't compare a screenshot of BG 2.0 with BG before, but here is BG 2.0 compared zoomed in with IWDEE zoomed in:

    BG 2.0 3 photo BG 2.0_zpsm6xzua3o.png

    photo IWDEE_zpsewkussyf.png

    Now imagine how good it looks zoomed out. And it does look incredible zoomed out.

    Now I know what people are complaining about. Those new sprites remind me of a picture book I had when I was a very, very small child where I could glue pictures of animals onto a pre-drawn background. At least the pixelly ones look like they're part of the game, rather than something that's been stuck on your screen as a joke.
    Wraith_SarevoklunarSanctifer
  • mikklemikkle Member Posts: 39
    I think they made they made the outlines to match the esthetics mobile games have. I guess with time most people will play it on ipads
  • ZilchkZilchk Member Posts: 46
    dunbar said:

    Obviously I can't compare a screenshot of BG 2.0 with BG before, but here is BG 2.0 compared zoomed in with IWDEE zoomed in:

    BG 2.0 3 photo BG 2.0_zpsm6xzua3o.png

    photo IWDEE_zpsewkussyf.png

    Now imagine how good it looks zoomed out. And it does look incredible zoomed out.

    Now I know what people are complaining about. Those new sprites remind me of a picture book I had when I was a very, very small child where I could glue pictures of animals onto a pre-drawn background. At least the pixelly ones look like they're part of the game, rather than something that's been stuck on your screen as a joke.
    Nostalgia goggles aside in BG environments and characters are much more detailed, they should fix it in IW but IW is obviously secondary for them. I personally would like some new expansion for IW, perhaps after BG2 expansion.
  • mashedtatersmashedtaters Member Posts: 2,266
    @dunbar @Wraith_Sarevok

    You can turn off the Sprite change in the game and use the old version without any hassle.

    It is mostly useful for mobile devices, such as tablets and phones. In an already tiny handset, I would imagine that it makes a world of difference having the sprites shine out like that.

    I agree that I prefer the old style by far. Pixels just...enchant me. I'm not a big fan of cartooniness in games, but some people really like them, and it's difficult to argue that it wouldn't be useful for tablets and phones.
    JuliusBorisovsparkleav
  • mysterymeepmysterymeep Member Posts: 33
    My first RPGs were back for the NES, but I still love the new version best so far. They're so much cleaner! It lets me see more of what they're doing and how they look.
    ThacoBell
  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 405
    I never zoom, so no issue for me.
    God
  • BanArdBanArd Member Posts: 60
    Whoever came up with the idea of sprite outlines played Borderlands too much.




    dok0zhivagoQuartzsparkleav
  • rapsam2003rapsam2003 Member Posts: 1,636

    Obviously I can't compare a screenshot of BG 2.0 with BG before, but here is BG 2.0 compared zoomed in with IWDEE zoomed in:

    BG 2.0 3 photo BG 2.0_zpsm6xzua3o.png

    photo IWDEE_zpsewkussyf.png

    The 2.x stuff has NOT been ported to IWDEE yet.
  • BelleSorciereBelleSorciere Member Posts: 2,108
    BanArd said:

    Whoever came up with the idea of sprite outlines played Borderlands too much.


    The bolded bit is completely unpossible. There is no "too much."
    ThacoBell
  • dok0zhivagodok0zhivago Member Posts: 82
    I installed SoD yesterday evening. After 5 minutes of playing, I disabled sprite outlines & health bar. I don't find those graphic options superior to IWD in any way.
    Vanilla IWD was a beautiful game and I find the EE version the same
    Calmar
  • SeldarSeldar Member Posts: 438
    I wonder how u can play with that sprite outlines in the 2.0, it's just awful except if u play on a 40" at 5 meters from you screen

    It looks like the characters are from another game and the background from another too...

    That said, I admit the zoom in IWDEE is horrible with that mess of pixels, but I dont care, I never use the zoom
    dok0zhivagoFenghoang
  • dok0zhivagodok0zhivago Member Posts: 82
    Seldar said:

    I wonder how u can play with that sprite outlines in the 2.0, it's just awful except if u play on a 40" at 5 meters from you screen

    It looks like the characters are from another game and the background from another too...

    That said, I admit the zoom in IWDEE is horrible with that mess of pixels, but I dont care, I never use the zoom

    As far as sprite outlines go this has to be the best description I've read so far.
    Quartz
  • rapsam2003rapsam2003 Member Posts: 1,636
    Seldar said:

    I wonder how u can play with that sprite outlines in the 2.0, it's just awful except if u play on a 40" at 5 meters from you screen

    It looks like the characters are from another game and the background from another too...

    That said, I admit the zoom in IWDEE is horrible with that mess of pixels, but I dont care, I never use the zoom

    If you spend more than an hour playing the game with sprite outlines, you realize that it actually looks better.
    PurudayaThacoBell
  • dok0zhivagodok0zhivago Member Posts: 82

    Seldar said:

    I wonder how u can play with that sprite outlines in the 2.0, it's just awful except if u play on a 40" at 5 meters from you screen

    It looks like the characters are from another game and the background from another too...

    That said, I admit the zoom in IWDEE is horrible with that mess of pixels, but I dont care, I never use the zoom

    If you spend more than an hour playing the game with sprite outlines, you realize that it actually looks better.
    So playing with sprite outlines can be compared to smoking cigarettes?
    I mean the first cigarette I smoked I didn't enjoy at all (I coughed and choked on it) but as time went by I found the taste and feeling better and better.
    Doesn't make it a good thing though :wink:
    inethAedan
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