I appreciate your decision to expand Mizhena and i personally think it is one of the major requirements of SoD.
Future petitions: - Captain Corwin, tweak the dialog slightly so it doesn't imply mansplaining her. - Refugees dialog, add another dialog option that isn't biased towards them - Restore Safana to her teasing nature
Really happy to see commitment on forward motion for Mizhena, even if that Minsc line did get a laugh out of me! Keep up the good work, you've made a fan out of me and I hope to see more content as high quality as SoD out of Beamdog!
Great work by the CEO. In one post he addressed almost all the issues. And he laid them to rest very rationally. He also showed that Beamdog actually listens to the fans. Which is more than can be said about 99% of the large companies.
Hi there @TrentOster , thank you so much for listening to feedback. I know that this has been a hard few days for you guys at the studio, and the moderators on the forum. I just wanted to let you know that your hard work is appreciated.
While I don't agree with censorship, removing Minsc line is probably the best option available.
I do however look forward to seeing how you expand on Mizhena, and continue to develop Transgendered characters in the future. I still have hope of a fully fleshed out recruitable character that we can play along side and gradually learn their backstory in a more natural manner.
Once again, thank you to you and your team. Here's hoping that things now calm down and we can all look to the future
We’ve received feedback around Mizhena, a supporting character who reveals she is transgender. In retrospect, it would have been better served if we had introduced a transgender character with more development. This is a lesson we will be carrying forward in our development as creators and we will be improving this character in a future update.
Dang, I was just getting ready to submit my awesome story idea for a trans character in Baldur's Gate.
Thank you Trent for releasing a great expansion. And thank you all for caring about your community.
Side note: I don't think devs have to worry about the threats. If people care that much about stuff in video games to begin with, there is no chance the person will leave his computer or console to make good on his threats.
We’ve received feedback around Mizhena, a supporting character who reveals she is transgender. In retrospect, it would have been better served if we had introduced a transgender character with more development. This is a lesson we will be carrying forward in our development as creators and we will be improving this character in a future update.
Dang, I was just getting ready to submit my awesome story idea for a trans character in Baldur's Gate.
Thank you Trent for releasing a great expansion. And thank you all for caring about your community.
There's no reason you can't still submit that idea! I'm sure the community would love to hear it.
While you're making updates Beamdog, can we get a flasher character represented in this game? This could be appropriately "forced". You click on the "Eager Fellow or Lady". He/she immediately shares that "from a young age they wanted to flash random passersby". "Check this out!" (Flash)
It's good you decided to not have Minsc poke bears with sticks any more. And improving upon that npc is good for everyone; people who thought it was poorly done and everyone else too as more content is better.
We’ve received feedback around Mizhena, a supporting character who reveals she is transgender. In retrospect, it would have been better served if we had introduced a transgender character with more development. This is a lesson we will be carrying forward in our development as creators and we will be improving this character in a future update.
Dang, I was just getting ready to submit my awesome story idea for a trans character in Baldur's Gate.
Thank you Trent for releasing a great expansion. And thank you all for caring about your community.
There's no reason you can't still submit that idea! I'm sure the community would love to hear it.
Here is an idea for you.
A male wizard born in a woman's body. Researching a spell to transform himself into his preferred gender. After years of research the spell is ready. When he is about to cast it, he gets bitten by a vampire and gets infected. The regenerative powers of vamyrism keeps the spell from working. Can get quests out of that too.
Looking forward to seeing more development with Mizhena. That should resolve whether those complaining really care about the writing quality or the character's nature.
Thank you Trent for the vision and the hard work in creating this expansion, let us not forget, a mere dream for so long...
I don't have issues or strong opinions myself with the writing, of which I have thoroughly enjoyed so far, but it is great that you listen and react in a positive fashion to the fans.
You are steering the ship through the storm, safe harbour is in sight...
Unfortunately, for some reason, this makes me think that the island will be full of werewolves. No matter! Stay strong! Beamdog will prevail!
I support you guys 100% @TrentOster ! Please don't let the vitriol in some earlier comments demoralize you and the company. I hope you will continue to make further content and expand upon the lore of Baldur's Gate. Even though there were 1-2 things I disagreed with in the writing, the vast majority of the writing I think was superb, and the effect of the little that wasn't was blown way out of proportion in various forums. I'm about 1/3 of the way through SOD--been taking my time and am really enjoying it, much more so than a lot of other games I've played lately!
I hate to be that guy, but I'm pretty sure the trolling won't stop. I think we've had more than enough examples that some people simply won't respond to rational statements unless you're saying what they want to hear, which of course, no sane person would say.
I also personally disagree with removing Minsc's line. I can see why they're doing it and I don't judge them for it, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I think that's ultimately just appeasing a minor crowd who most certainly hasn't earned that kind of consideration. To be honest, it almost feels like rewarding them for bullying the company in the first place.
But that's me being bullheaded, I suppose.
Now I'm going to take some time off the boards and finally do that first playthrough of SoD that I've been postponing due to a lack of time. It's getting hard to avoid spoilers already.
See you guys when I get thrown in Chateau Irenicus. Have a great week.
Gotta have a lot of respect for @TrentOster and the way you and the team at beamdog handled this situation. Very professional. I have said it before and I'll say it again, I'm having a great time playing siege of dragonspear and wanna thank you all at Beamdog for the amazing opportunity to play this add on after sooooo many years. Great stuff
I hate to be that guy, but I'm pretty sure the trolling won't stop. I think we've had more than enough examples that some people simply won't respond to rational statements unless you're saying what they want to hear, which of course, no sane person would say.
I also personally disagree with removing Minsc's line. I can see why they're doing it and I don't judge them for it, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I think that's ultimately just appeasing a minor crowd who most certainly hasn't earned that kind of consideration. To be honest, it almost feels like rewarding them for bullying the company in the first place.
But that's me being bullheaded, I suppose.
Now I'm going to take some time off the boards and finally do that first playthrough of SoD that I've been postponing due to a lack of time. It's getting hard to avoid spoilers already.
See you guys when I get thrown in Chateau Irenicus. Have a great week.
The Minsc thing runs deeper than that, actually. I didn't make too much of it until I saw this video. The lass is really tearing up about it.
[Bonus Questions:] @Dee - are the nearest patches going to address only multiplayer and controversial problems, or others as well (like e.g. spontaneous difficulty swapping) ? ..also, can you confirm that those patches would come on 14th (or around) of April?
I appreciate your decision to expand Mizhena and i personally think it is one of the major requirements of SoD.
Future petitions: - Captain Corwin, tweak the dialog slightly so it doesn't imply mansplaining her. - Refugees dialog, add another dialog option that isn't biased towards them - Restore Safana to her teasing nature
There is no mansplaining there. You get same answer if you main character is a woman. Actually that original picture that bashed this was with woman main character.
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Future petitions:
- Captain Corwin, tweak the dialog slightly so it doesn't imply mansplaining her.
- Refugees dialog, add another dialog option that isn't biased towards them
- Restore Safana to her teasing nature
Don't care for the Minsc line, don't see the issue. But wasn't a good fit I guess.
Good update
Superb job.
While I don't agree with censorship, removing Minsc line is probably the best option available.
I do however look forward to seeing how you expand on Mizhena, and continue to develop Transgendered characters in the future. I still have hope of a fully fleshed out recruitable character that we can play along side and gradually learn their backstory in a more natural manner.
Once again, thank you to you and your team. Here's hoping that things now calm down and we can all look to the future
Thank you for listening to both sides.
Thank you Trent for releasing a great expansion. And thank you all for caring about your community.
Thank you Trent for releasing a great expansion. And thank you all for caring about your community.
There's no reason you can't still submit that idea! I'm sure the community would love to hear it.
Character runs off the map screaming wildly!
Just another inclusion idea to consider!
Here is an idea for you.
A male wizard born in a woman's body. Researching a spell to transform himself into his preferred gender. After years of research the spell is ready. When he is about to cast it, he gets bitten by a vampire and gets infected. The regenerative powers of vamyrism keeps the spell from working. Can get quests out of that too.
I don't have issues or strong opinions myself with the writing, of which I have thoroughly enjoyed so far, but it is great that you listen and react in a positive fashion to the fans.
You are steering the ship through the storm, safe harbour is in sight...
Unfortunately, for some reason, this makes me think that the island will be full of werewolves. No matter! Stay strong! Beamdog will prevail!
I love the Siege of Dragonspear!
I also personally disagree with removing Minsc's line. I can see why they're doing it and I don't judge them for it, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I think that's ultimately just appeasing a minor crowd who most certainly hasn't earned that kind of consideration. To be honest, it almost feels like rewarding them for bullying the company in the first place.
But that's me being bullheaded, I suppose.
Now I'm going to take some time off the boards and finally do that first playthrough of SoD that I've been postponing due to a lack of time. It's getting hard to avoid spoilers already.
See you guys when I get thrown in Chateau Irenicus. Have a great week.
[Bonus Questions:]
@Dee - are the nearest patches going to address only multiplayer and controversial problems, or others as well (like e.g. spontaneous difficulty swapping) ?
..also, can you confirm that those patches would come on 14th (or around) of April?
Thank you Trent and of course the entire team.
You can do it, we believe in you!