I Hate Bears!

Tresset

I hate the bears in BG! Their Thac0 is too good and they hit too hard! They will chase one character to the Abyss and back before they give up! Cave bears are the worst, but the others are just as bad! They wander right up to you and then become angry that you are close to them! Ugh! So annoying!

(This has been a rant by Tresset.)

Troodon80

Tresset said:

I Hate Bears!

Okay...

Tresset

Er... Well... I suppose I should have said "I hate bears in BG not named Wilson or Troodon80." because both of those options are cool in my book! Are there any other bears on the forums? I forget...

IF
	See(Bears)
	!Bears("Wilson")
	!Bears("Troodon80")
THEN
	RESPONSE #100
		SetGlobal("HateBears","GLOBAL",1)
END

Troodon80

Good enough. :P

JumboWheat01

You hate them now, but when you get a couple of levels under your teams belt, they become sweet, fat, furry sacks of EXP.

SirBatince

I'm still using 1.3 where their moving speed is that of a race car

ThacoBell

I maintain that the first 2 bears encountered on the armored figure ambush map, are the hardest encounters in the trilogy.

Tresset

JumboWheat01 said:

You hate them now, but when you get a couple of levels under your teams belt, they become sweet, fat, furry sacks of EXP.

That may be, but all of my above complaints about them still apply, which is why they bug me so much.

Grond0

Tresset said:

I hate the bears in BG! Their Thac0 is too good and they hit too hard! They will chase one character to the Abyss and back before they give up! Cave bears are the worst, but the others are just as bad!

I don't very often play with a party, but when I do I love cave bears! They chase a single character around allowing others to fill the bear full of missiles without even having to move around.

God

Tresset said:

I hate the bears in BG! Their Thac0 is too good and they hit too hard!

I feel ya.
The other day one sneaky bearstard backstabbed my entire party.

They dealt with beholders all right, but that guy with quarterstaff grandmastery, a staff of striking, x7 backstab multiplier and hide in plain sight? He's just too much to bear.

Kilivitz

The "make a beeline for you" behavior is indeed a pain in the ass.

But as pointed out here, at least bears hand out a little bit of XP. Wolves are the worst. Annoying, show up in packs, hit hard and yield pathetic XP. And no loot.

batoor

Just wait until you get the rare bandit archer ambush with them saying ''So I kicked him in the head until he was dead nyahahahaaha!'' and then he hits your mage. After that I don't think the slow little bears will seem all that bad.

They also spawn with like 10+ archers....

Tresset

batoor said:

Just wait until you get the rare bandit archer ambush with them saying ''So I kicked him in the head until he was dead nyahahahaaha!'' and then he hits your mage. After that I don't think the slow little bears will seem all that bad.

They also spawn with like 10+ archers....

Yeah, the bandit encounter can be instant death at low levels, but I usually like getting it once I have assembled a party because it means I can harvest their scalps for cash. Bandits become significantly less dangerous as you level up. Wolves don't do nearly as much damage as bears and they have much more trouble hitting you when your AC gets good. Bears... No matter how good your AC gets or how high your level is they always seem to be able to hit you, and for a sizable chunk of damage too. That is probably what annoys me most about them. Their other antics just add to the irritation factor. I especially hate it when a cave bear starts chasing a squishy mage. Cave bears may be easy to kite, but I usually prefer not to do that unless I have to. Just not my thing really...

Ravenslight

Kilivitz said:

The "make a beeline for you" behavior is indeed a pain in the ass.

But as pointed out here, at least bears hand out a little bit of XP. Wolves are the worst. Annoying, show up in packs, hit hard and yield pathetic XP. And no loot.

This bothered me for a long time as well. I finally made a mod to address this in my own game. This may not be your cup of tea, but just in case...

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/47699/critter-parts-mini-mod-for-baldur-s-gate-ee#latest

OlvynChuru

Cave bears are pretty tough.

All the more reason to have your ranger charm them and send them against all the other enemies in the area.

JuliusBorisov

More bears have entered the complex, Master.

They run faster than I had anticipated. No matter, they will only prove a slight delay! uses charm animal as a special ability

Mush_Mush

Bears are becoming an impressive pest, one that I am finding it difficult to ignore.

megamike15

you don't like bears? sit down

BillyYank

God

BillyYank said:

None has a soul.

'Tis more of a leasing agreement, actually

Ardanis

I forgot to mention that I really ate bears too. For breakfast. When I was four. No, they weren't Haribo gummy bears, or other kind of bear-shaped candies or cookies

Mush_Mush

Ardanis said:

I forgot to mention that I really ate bears too. For breakfast. When I was four. No, they weren't Haribo gummy bears, or other kind of bear-shaped candies or cookies

I don't think I could bear that.

Grond0

If you're hungry enough you can bear anything

Yelocessej

Ardanis

Mush_Mush said:

I don't think I could bear that.

Well, it's not like I had a choice, it was still the Soviet Russia then There you didn't get eaten by bears, bears got eaten by you.

Kamigoroshi

If only we could replace bears with owlbears... at least they do give a hoot.

batoor

Was Trichinosis a bit of a scare factor with the bear meat where you lived? Well I presume it was well cooked anyway. Just sounds scary^^

Tresset said:

batoor said:

Just wait until you get the rare bandit archer ambush with them saying ''So I kicked him in the head until he was dead nyahahahaaha!'' and then he hits your mage. After that I don't think the slow little bears will seem all that bad.

They also spawn with like 10+ archers....

Yeah, the bandit encounter can be instant death at low levels, but I usually like getting it once I have assembled a party because it means I can harvest their scalps for cash. Bandits become significantly less dangerous as you level up. Wolves don't do nearly as much damage as bears and they have much more trouble hitting you when your AC gets good. Bears... No matter how good your AC gets or how high your level is they always seem to be able to hit you, and for a sizable chunk of damage too. That is probably what annoys me most about them. Their other antics just add to the irritation factor. I especially hate it when a cave bear starts chasing a squishy mage. Cave bears may be easy to kite, but I usually prefer not to do that unless I have to. Just not my thing really...

Well that's a fair point I guess. I actually read the opening post without realizing it was you who made the thread. Thought it was a newcomer frustrated with a creature encounter^^

I think Wyverns are some of the worst I encounter during ambushes, although it's only in cloakwood. Mostly because of the poison.

Ardanis

batoor said:

Was Trichinosis a bit of a scare factor with the bear meat where you lived? Well I presume it was well cooked anyway. Just sounds scary^^

It was about several thousand kilometers away from where I actually live, so no idea. I did get sick for the entire trip, though, but don't remember if it was before visiting the restaurant or not...

Nimran

I love bears! They're comfy and easy to wear!

#wearbears #youngsterjoey

Yelocessej

recklessheart

The player who truly loves the Bhaalspawn Saga embraces those first possible brushes with glory: shooting down bears with Imoen, all the ammo they can muster, and a Wand of Magic Missile for that sweet 3-figure XP reward.

And when you have to battle the Beastmaster and all his bears and beasties to free Hendak and the slaves 30 hours later, you'll be tightening the straps on your bracers thinking, "Look how far we've come."