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  • ArthasArthas Member Posts: 1,091
    edited July 2019
    I had hoped you would tell me they are all clones like in the bandit camp, or any encounter you have in BG.

    Wouldn't it be easier to make a substitute .cre with the proper levelling? Also shouldn't Bg automatically define their hp according to the level?

    I checked the bandit.cre for vanilla bandits (I supposed to one you encounter in the ambushes) and they are all mere fighters and their hp doesn't seem to be added manually but actually done in game. Am I wrong?

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    edited July 2019
    Out of curiosity: who of you played the inside temple with the most current version? Because the number of enemies and how many have these arrows was nerfed (depending on game difficulty).

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  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    edited July 2019
    If you look at the GitHub repo, Angel (?) wanted to nerf some of the fights / tanar'ri as well but I can't remember whether that was alteady done or not.
    I apologize, RL is hitting hard atm.

  • BrokenkatanaBrokenkatana Member Posts: 37
    It looks like the GitHub download for 3.1.1 is missing the setup command files.

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    Did you download the attached zips from the release?
    The master / GitHub itself does not contain the setup.exe, but the attached mod packages do.

  • BrokenkatanaBrokenkatana Member Posts: 37
    I went to the releases tab, v3.1.1 and then the source code zip.

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    Indeed! Seems there are no packages attached.
    Just take another setup-mod.exe, copy it and rename it to setup-NTotSC.exe.

    Brokenkatana
  • BrokenkatanaBrokenkatana Member Posts: 37
    Thank you. Installs fine now.

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    Thanks for the info! I will add the packages, the latest with the next update.

    Brokenkatana
  • ArthasArthas Member Posts: 1,091
    So...

    1) should I install the mod and go for it?

    2) Were both Angel and Subtledoctor fix for npcs and mobs added in the end?

    3) Does the mod re-use areas ?

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    StummvonBordwehrArthasIsewein
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    The GitHub repo of NTotSC moved to the Official SHS GitHub Organization. ( @Gwendolyne is still setting everything up so official announcement will follow).
    Also, GitHub now contains mod packages for Windows, Mac, Linux.

    StummvonBordwehrfluke13
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    Actually maurezhi would work really well here. They are intelligent, they are at BG1 power levels (5HD). And they "bear a strong resemblance to a common ghoul" - so could just use a ghoul animation with some recoloring effects. Give them the ghast weapon that paralyzes on a failed save, and a fighter/mage combat script, and the following memorized spells: Blur, Spook, Chill Touch, Animate Dead, Hold Person, Invisibility, and Summon Ghouls. They're supposed to be at-will abilities so maybe apply Wondrous Recall every so often. That should make for interesting and dangerous combat!

    (...) I would maybe change the area to just include, say, six maurezhi. Make it so they swarm - no picking off one at a time - and maybe have a few of them start off invisible.

    If anyone wants to provide the cre's with learned spells and scripts as described by @subtledoctor I'll include it into the mod.

    For the next update, the Lesser Tanar'ri are nerfed heavily with regard to HP (60/80), STR (20 instead of 25), no resistance to damage except magical (50%), Invisible Stalker only spawn for HARDEST/INSANE game difficulty.
    Haebal now is an altered clone of Ramazith and should have legal stats, resistances, and most of all mage class to be detected by SCS properly.

    The orcs are generic BGII ones with added BGII mage/priest spells so no idea why they did not attack with magic.
    There are more nerfs, bugfixes, and a completed Italian version by ilot, too. Just wanted to reply to the raised topics. Thank you again for bug reports and feedback!


    StummvonBordwehrbob_veng
  • ArthasIIArthasII Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2019
    Who provided the nerfs?

    I want to thank you for all the work you are doing !

    StummvonBordwehrjastey
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    I just did them myself as I saw fit.

    This mod is a community effort, and I am always open to improvements. If anyone disagrees with my changes, feel free to suggest and provide better versions. I am saying this in all honesty and without subtle meaning.

    StummvonBordwehrArthasII
  • Ludwig_IILudwig_II Member Posts: 292
    Now that you say Jastey, I have one feedback. Last time I played this mod(1-2 years ago), there was a red robe for mages, which I dont remember the name. But it was giving the lowest AC possible for mages and a lot of regeneration as far as I remember. I thought it was much more powerful than any other item for mages in BG1, and I think it needed to be nerfed massively or removed. Have you got a chance to nerf that too?

    Isewein
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    @Ludwig_II That robe seems to have been removed. The only robes and cloaks still in the current version are:
    Ogi-Luc's Great Robe:
    This robe was fashioned from strong fabric and dyed dark blue, the favorite color of its proud owner, the archmage Ogi-Luc. A Sembian by birth, Ogi-Luc was a powerful man, as strong in body as he was in mind. However, Ogi-Luc wasn't content to merely be strong. He wanted to be exceptionally strong. When he put on these robes, proud men stood aside and braggarts stilled their tongues. For all of Ogi-Luc's pride and prowess, he was unable to defeat the Red Wizard abjurer Nesk Vhaltim. Nesk took the robes as a prize. They were later stolen and sold by a daring rogue.

    STATISTICS:

    Armor Class: 4
    Special: Grants 18/99 Strength, +2 to Con
    Weight: 5
    Only Usable By:
    Mage (Single Class)


    Orc Shaman's Cloak:
    Orcish shamans often made their clothes with poor materials fixed with leather parts so they are eyesore, heavy and regularly are not the top interest for adventurers, although they possess many advantages.

    STATISTICS:

    Armor Class Bonus: 2
    Electricity, Fire and Cold Resistance: +40%
    Charisma penalty: -5
    Weight: 35
    Not Usable By:
    Good-aligned

    Cloak of Scintillating Colors:
    The origins of this cloak were lost in the mists of time. However, for some time it was in the possession of Drosus, a mage of no small power from Waterdeep. Drosus fell afoul to an unusually large group of winter wolves on a solo expedition into the Spine of the World Mountains, having been forced to don a heavier cloak to keep out the cold.
    At first glance this cloak appears to be blinding white in color. However, it is in fact a composite of thousands of colors, which dance and play in any available light source. This barrage of scintillating colors tends to distract and partially blind anyone staring directly at the wearer.

    STATISTICS:

    The cloak grants a +2 bonus to Armor Class and can be worn in combination with any other form of protection enchantment - thus it can be worn over magical armor unlike a cloak of protection.
    Armor Class: +2 bonus
    Weight: 3
    Not Usable By:
    Wizardslayer

    StummvonBordwehrLudwig_II
  • StummvonBordwehrStummvonBordwehr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 892
    Well since we are at it....
    I have always loved the mod, and I very glad that it’s being maintained. Thanks for your hard work.

    Regarding the mod and feedback: I find it very balanced and fun, but I have always missed a manual of dex or con as loot. But then again I always miss a tome or manual...

  • ArthasIIArthasII Member Posts: 231
    Hey Jastey,
    was Shilo chen removed from this mod? Just asking because I saw some of your comments inside UB forum about Shilo chen positioning + the ogre magi positioning.

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    @ArthasII Shilo Chen was never part of NTotSC BGT. There are traces about it (some cre file etc.), but it wasn't implemented.

    @StummvonBordwehr Thanks for the kind words. I am afraid adding a tome or manual as loot is not really content of the mod, though.
    This sounds like an idea for your first own mod though: adding another tome inside the game... :p

    StummvonBordwehrIsewein
  • ArthasIIArthasII Member Posts: 231
    @Jastey okay thanks. Anyway, I've got a provoking thought - nothing to be taken too seriously but just for informations.

    These components that are bundled within UB are also bundled within NTSC and also within JARL Adventure pack.

    Any chance that anyone has compared them and written a comparison? I mean, it feels aggravating that there are three different version for the same stuff (I guess one should say two, given that Jarl is only for BGT)

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
  • MaurvirMaurvir Member Posts: 891
    Lesser Tanar'ri... Was that what Aec Letec was supposed to be?

  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    Aec'Letec is a Tanar'ri I think (not "lesser").

  • bob_vengbob_veng Member Posts: 2,300
    he's a named balor basically, with slightly nerfed stats across the board, and unique abilities

    ntotsc "lesser tanar'ri" are derived from aec'letec i think and are also close to a balor, but the problem is they are not "lesser" according to their stats, but rather "greater".

    a lore friendly alternative with an existing CRE would be nabassu ("greater tanar'ri"), who have the same demon animation and very similar stats to jastey's post nerf demons. in BG2EE those are OBSDEM05.CRE - Nabassu (beamdog version), and DEMNAB01.CRE - Nabassu (original version)

    StummvonBordwehr
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    I was thinking of changing the "lesser Tanarri" of NTotSC to "Nabassu Fledgelings" with 1x Darkness and 1x Death Gaze but changing the name would require also tweaking of all lines referring to them.

    IseweinArthasIIStummvonBordwehrbob_veng
  • ArthasIIArthasII Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2019
    Hello,

    1) I'm looking for some informations about the following components:

    Lucky Arrow
    Keelor the dwarf
    Pilar and Gheldelar
    Are these three unfinished bussiness/restored component? Any walkthrough available online?

    2) I read you released a new version. First of all thank you. Got a question: there is a keyring reference in the change log. Does it mean that this mod adds a key ring or is it for compatibility with mod of the orderly?

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  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 1,773
    The mod updates to version 3.2.0 with minor bug fixes, more tuned down fights, and a revised Italian version by ilot, and a revised Polish version by Roberciiik!

    Changes:
    -Completed and revised Italian version by ilot
    -Completed and revised Polish version by Roberciiik
    -Map Note to Fire Leaf Forest added (entrance to pass to Cloud Peak)
    -Map Note added to AR80PB.are (Entrance to Cave)
    -description of Shocking Flail adjusted to real stats
    -Draagis' staff should have correct damage effect
    -all keys tagged as keys so they fit into the key chain
    -Nadalin recognizes whether he brought PC to island before (should not give his first dialogue every time after quest is finished)
    -AR9001.are: trap at desk should be removable/reachable
    -AR25PB.are: removed original fire slamander references, also from dialogues (replaced with mod ones)
    -journal entry for elven bow will also be added if PC gets quest without any of the items already in inventory
    -assigned fighting script to Demon Knights (should not stand idle)
    -nerved fire slamander fight: for level PC lower 4 or game difficulty lower NORMAL, number of fire slamander will be halved.
    -nerved fire slamanders: less HP, no immunity to nonmagical weapons, less damage
    -Lesser Tanar'ri nerved: lower XP, immunity to slashing, crishing, piercing set to 0, nerfed Tanar'ri spell script.
    -fight with Lesser Tanar'ri nerved: number of Lesser Tanar'ri depending in game difficulty
    -removed elven chain mail +1 from Haebal
    -Haebal cre nerfed and corrected: is now mage with legal stats
    -Hasdar cre nerfed: has now legal amount of HP
    -nerved Knights of the Grave: reduced HP, nerved undroppable flame blade
    -monster count in AR02PB reduced depending on game difficulty. For INSANE, all monsters will still be there.
    -DSotSC ressources: Holy Water effect should work on undead, Holy Water can be bought in almost all Temples.
    -put a note into the readme that Will is a rather silent NPC.
    -German version: corrected description of Studded Leather of Resistance
    -German version: effects description of Armor of Black Swan corrected

    @ArthasII the following compnents are restored "unfinished" game content:
    --Keelor the Dwarf
    --Pilar and Gheldehar
    --Nim Furlwing
    --Llindellyn's Lucky Arrow
    --Svlast's Torment

    And yes, the key changes are for compatibility. The items were flagged as something else before, now they will be recognized as "keys" ingame.

    StummvonBordwehrArthasIIbob_vengGusinda
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