Foebane +5, how does it work?

Durmir46

Hi guys,

I just got my Foebane +5 (which I am very excited about considering I am grandmaster in bastard swords). However when I attack with it, while it says I deal 4 magic damage (making me think that the Larloch's Minor Drain was triggered indeed), I do not regain 4HP...

Hence my question: is Foebane +5 bugged or is there any effect that prevents me from getting my HP back?

Cheers!

JuliusBorisov

Hello!

Does it look similar to https://support.baldursgate.com/issues/36964? If yes, please file a new BGII:EE ticket at that site for investigation.

Durmir46

Yes, it's pretty much the same, I have created a new ticket. Thanks!
EDIT: life is beautiful and birds are singing in the sky

Gate70

Hello @Durmir46
If your report was https://support.baldursgate.com/issues/38090 it has been submitted, not removed.

Thanks

Durmir46

Indeed,
Sorry about that, I have re-edited accordingly. Apologies

Khyron

I was planning on using Foebane on my current playthrough.. but this has got me wondering if i should bother.

Is it something that only some suffer from, or is the item thoroughly broken?
Seems extremely weird, as it seems this is Beamdogs doing.. the weapon has always worked fine for me in the past.

Durmir46

The weapon still deals pretty good damage (and Minor Drain does deal additional damage), so somehow it still is worth using. But if what you were after was an on-hit heal, then you are going to be disappointed. If this bug is the same than the corresponding spell's one, I am afraid it may be widespread.

Khyron

From the bug report, it seems this issue happened 2 months ago.. and no hotfix.

Looking at patch frequency, maybe it'll get fixed for 2.6, Q4 2019 xD

JuliusBorisov

The bug is that Larloch's Minor Drain (from all sources) drains 4 HP from the target, but no longer increases the caster's HP.

Myrag

Btw is wiki also incorrect on LMD proc? It states that it bypasses MR.

http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/Foebane

GreenWarlock

JuliusBorisov said:

The bug is that Larloch's Minor Drain (from all sources) drains 4 HP from the target, but no longer increases the caster's HP.

I sure hope this is fixed for the BGEE 2.5 patch, as my low level mages rely heavily on that spell for combat healing.

As we are looking at an IWDEE 2.5 consolidation patch, is there any chance of a similar patch for BG2EE once BGEE/SoD 2.5 are ready to roll?

(and it goes without saying I would rather call these all 2.6 )

Tresset

@Khyron I was informed about this issue by @JuliusBorisov so today I decided to return from the land of NWN:EE briefly to make a hotfix for this issue. Just extract the attached files into your override folder and both the Larloch's Minor Drain wizard spell and the Bhaalspawn ability version (this is the one that Foebane +5 uses) should work just like they always have. Let me know if there are any issues with this hotfix and I will happily look into them.

Durmir46

Tresset said:

@Khyron I was informed about this issue by @JuliusBorisov so today I decided to return from the land of NWN:EE briefly to make a hotfix for this issue. Just extract the attached files into your override folder and both the Larloch's Minor Drain wizard spell and the Bhaalspawn ability version (this is the one that Foebane +5 uses) should work just like they always have. Let me know if there are any issues with this hotfix and I will happily look into them.

It works even on my Foebane! Thanks! That's great

Tresset

Durmir46 said:

It works even on my Foebane! Thanks! That's great

Of course it does! That is what I designed it to do!

Aaezil

How have they been working on bg2 for 6 years or whatever and its still broken

Ulb

Aaezil said:

How have they been working on bg2 for 6 years or whatever and its still broken

It's not still broken. If you work on any piece of software things just keep breaking, that's bound to happen.

Lederp

Wait is this STILL broken? I was doing a pure warrior run with bastard swords. Bugger me. Guess I'll try the hotfix.

DregothofTyr

Is Larloch's not working correctly in BG1 and BG2 or just BG2?

ngsezgame

Sorry to revive this thread a year later, but I'm having the same issue wirh Foebane. I have the latest Steam version of BG2EE. Does the hot fix still work? Will it conflict with any other mods I have inatalled? Thanks.

Gusinda

Hi @ngsezgame, the hotfix still works with no impact on other mods. Just copy the contents of the .zip file into your override folder.

Gus

infamousas

Gusinda wrote: »

Hi @ngsezgame, the hotfix still works with no impact on other mods. Just copy the contents of the .zip file into your override folder.

Gus

It does not
It just keeps increasing your total hp
example if i'm 149/159
a single hit cause my hp to become 153/163
its really annoying and needs to be fixed

Edit: actually nvm im stupid, it goes back after 1 turn, (a minute). The hotfix works perfectly, thankx!

ngsezgame

Thanks, @Gusinda . Works great!

michael1324

A true fix will allow the spell to heal you each time you use it UNTIL YOUR HEALTH IS MAXED in which case it will increase your health by a little over your max 1 time.
Does the fix here do EXACTLY that? Because if it only increases your health by 4 and your max by 4 at the same time then that is NOT a fix because that is NOT how the spell is supposed to work in the first place.

Another thing if this is ACTUALLY a fix then you should go ahead and update the steam game so people can just update their games without having to come to 3rd parties to download something.
Players PAID for an EE on steam so instead of ignoring the people that put money in your pocket when buying it you should AT LEAST fix the spells and update the game on steam.
Last update was in june 2018. Its now 2020 and you still haven't bothered to release an update yet... you tell people to come here and download this file.
That is a SLAP IN THE FACE to everyone that bought the EE.

Grond0

@michael1324 the fix is intended to replicate original game behavior, i.e. increase both current HPs and maximum HPs by 4. The increase to maximum HPs lasts a turn (the same as the LMD spell) - many years ago I used Foebane fairly regularly as I enjoyed seeing my warriors with HPs several hundred above their normal maximums .

Lord_Tansheron

You can't please everyone, so you pick one version that works well and everyone else can either accept that or use mods to change it into whatever they prefer. That's generally the best way to solve this issue, because if it was a clear-cut case of "it has to be exactly THIS way" then there wouldn't be any debate about it in the first place, would there

Being able to adjust the game through mods is a blessing, not a detriment.

Cruentuz

Just got Foebane +3 and wanted to test out the bugfix with my Cavalier Mazzy. I'm in SoA chapter 2 still.
Found the +5 version in EEkeeper and added it to her inventory,(tried both SW1H63 and COMPS63), but nothing shows up ingame... tried deleting the +3 version also if there was some kind of impossible combo but no luck.

Any ideas?
would like to try this out instead of using the omnipresent Carsomyr for once.

borntodie

SW1H63 works for me

Cruentuz

Yeah, I got it to work assigning it to a regular inventory slot. Putting it in a quick weapon slot in EEkeeper didn't work.
Successfully drained HPs from Korgan also. Yay! ?

Cyberlisk

Sorry für resurrecting this, but let me get this straight... there is a Hotfix for this from 2018(!) and it's still not implemented in the game?

iosfrustration

Yeap, the hotfix is your best fix. And being how much fun foebane is after the fix I highly recommend you try it

JuliusBorisov

Cyberlisk wrote: »

Sorry für resurrecting this, but let me get this straight... there is a Hotfix for this from 2018(!) and it's still not implemented in the game?

The next patch is getting closer. https://forums.beamdog.com/categories/the-road-to-2-6